Summary
In today's episode, I explain how to measure the success of your answer engine optimization strategies in a world dominated by zero-click searches. Here's what this means for you. You can accurately track which marketing channels drive customers to your business even when digital clicks disappear. You'll also learn these concepts: how free-text responses provide deeper insights than dropdown menus, how generative AI categorizes qualitative data, and how you can use AI to analyze your CRM fields.
Key Takeaways
- You'll learn why free-text questions offer more valuable insights than restrictive dropdown menus
- You'll discover how generative AI simplifies the process of categorizing qualitative customer data
- You'll see how to use AI tools to validate your AEO success by analyzing customer feedback
Full Transcript
Drummer asks How do you handle answer engine optimization or AEO for clients when 60% of searches end without a click? That's pretty straightforward. Ask people how they heard of you. When you are having a conversation with a prospect or a customer or someone who bought, ask them how they heard of you. And in fact, part of the things one of the things you need to keep very careful track of, and this is something that you should have been doing this entire time is tracking how people heard of you in a free text open format.
So not a drop down, but a little answer box saying, How'd you hear about us? Or what made you come in today? Or made what made you choose us? Or one of those things. But how do you have you heard about us is super important because it helps you understand what channels are working even when there is no click.
Digital marketing has been in a really tough spot in the last 10 years. Starting around 2015 2016, what happened was this. Rand Fishkin over at SparkToro has been talking about zero click search for the last 10 years. How every year Google keeps more clicks to itself than gives to you and I, the marketers. And so the only reliable method, but the best reliable method for knowing what's working in our marketing is to ask people to have a conversation with them in focus groups, at point of sale, everywhere.
Up until the advent of generative AI, companies resisted doing this because it's a lot of work to process that data. Particularly if you just give somebody an answer box, you know, you're gonna get all sorts of crazy answers in it. Now, in the era of generative AI, you have no excuse not to do this, right? Um even a lightweight model can parse a simple text box and say, categorize this answer. Was generative AI part of the answer?
If the answer is never AI, your AEO strategy is not working. It's as simple as that. If nobody says, Oh, I asked Claude about this, and they told me you or ChatGPT or Gemini. If no one ever says Google told me, right? Gemini told me, AI overviews told me your a your AEO is not working.
Um this is not new. And the other advantage of free text answers is some people, not everybody, but some people will give you extensive answers. They will they will tell you their life story. You know, my my cousins, friends, roommate uh told me about this uh full moon uh festival that I went to, and somebody at the uh vendor booth told me uh that you are the company to talk to. That might be a little crazy to deal with, but it gives you insights, it gives you value.
It says this is how people are finding us. So you need to do that to make this stuff work for you. You need to invest the time. Let's see, I need onion. Um, to make these things really dig in.
This is not this is not rocket surgery. You could today export your CRM fields or your contact form fields. Put it in a Google sheet and tell Gemini score uh you know extracts the categories in a little formula and just drag it down the sheet like it's that simple. Uh there's a Trust Insights live stream that you can go check out about exactly how to do that. Uh if you're if you're not clear.
But that's how you track all the stuff today. So that is the answer to the question. Thanks for asking. Talk to you on the next one. If you enjoyed this video, please hit the like button.
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