In today’s episode, you’ll explore the intriguing paradox of why marketers, despite having access to vast amounts of data, often struggle to extract meaningful insights. You’ll discover the crucial role that well-defined questions play in guiding data analysis and learn why simply having data isn’t enough. I’ll share a practical framework that helps you transform data into actionable insights and improve your marketing effectiveness. Tune in to unlock the power of your data and make smarter, data-driven decisions!
You Ask, I Answer: Why is Marketing Data Rich but Insight Poor?
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Christopher Penn: In today’s episode, Brooke asks, “Why is it that marketers are data rich, but insight poor?”
Oh, that’s a good question. A lot of reasons. Let’s talk about some definitions first. What are insights? Think about the actual word insight, like sight within, looking within—looking within something. What are you looking into? You’re looking into your data. And when you look into your data, what are you looking for? Answers. Answers to what? Answers to questions. What questions? Questions like: “How do I get this person to buy more from me? How do I get this person to be happier with my company? How do I get this person to recommend me to a friend?”
These are the questions that we need to have written out and documented so that we know then what to look into in our data. We’re looking for connections in the data, we’re looking for patterns, we’re looking for conclusions. And all of our data that we have doesn’t mean anything if we don’t have questions we need answers to.
Likewise, if we don’t have those questions, we might not even be collecting the data for it. If we are—if we’re concerned about customer loyalty and evangelism and we’re not tracking recommendations in our social media management software, then we can’t answer that question. There’s no way to answer the question with the data we have.
So part—part of the answer to Brooke’s question about why we are insight poor is: we don’t know what we’re looking for. We didn’t ask the questions, we haven’t defined the questions, and therefore we have no—we have nothing to dig for, we have no answers to look for. We just go look at the data and go, “Huh, there’s the data,” and we don’t do anything with it.
Think of data like ingredients. Go into your kitchen, go in your pantry, the ingredients—as marketers, we have no shortage of data, we’ve got data everywhere. Are the ingredients any good? Are they fresh? Are they spoiled? Are they filled with bugs?
Bad data, like bad ingredients, is worse than no data because bad ingredients can make you sick. Bad data can lead you to incorrect conclusions.
Christopher Penn: Do we know what we’re trying to accomplish with the data? Going back to those questions. If our ingredient that we have the most of is flour, are we making a cake, pasta, sourdough bread, salt dough for salmon on the grill? If we don’t know what we’re asking for, if we don’t know what the recipe is, we don’t know what the final outcome is, then the data doesn’t really matter.
Do we have a recipe and process? This matters. This is something that my CEO Katie talks about all the time is: you need to have a recipe. You need to know what your process is, you need to have a recipe to get to that final dish. Again, if insights are answers to questions, we need a recipe for how we turn data into answers.
Do we have a chef with the skills needed to execute the recipe? Can I cook it? Can you cook it? Do you know how? I can give my dog a recipe, but we’re not going to get what we want. I hope he’ll be very happy, and he’ll be eager to help, but he will not bake a loaf of bread. Pretty cool if he could, but again—do you have the right appliances?
If you’re making bread, do you have an oven? It doesn’t matter how skilled the chef is or how great the ingredients are, how good the recipe is, if you don’t have a source of heat, you ain’t baking bread at all.
Same is true with data: if you don’t have the tools to process it, as well as the knowledge of how to process it, you’re going to have a very hard time.
Asking why marketers are data rich, but insight poor is a great question. The answer is the same as why a restaurant is ingredients rich but has no food on the tables for diners to eat. It’s because something broke down in the people, the processes, the platforms, the purpose, and the performance—the Trust Insights 5P Framework, which you can get at TrustInsights.ai/5pframework.
That’s the answer. That’s why we are so data rich, but insight poor because we don’t know how to make the insights. We don’t even know what it is we’re trying to make.
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In today’s episode, we’re tackling a truth that can be unsettling for many marketers: sometimes, your data is just plain wrong. You’ll learn why discrepancies in your analytics are more common than you might think and why that’s not necessarily a reason to panic. I’ll explain the difference between “reliably wrong” and “unreliably wrong” data and how understanding this concept is crucial for making informed marketing decisions. Tune in to discover how to identify the quality of your data and gain valuable insights, even when it’s not perfectly accurate.
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In today’s episode, let’s talk about wrong data—data that is wrong, incorrect. I was having a discussion last week with some colleagues about web analytics data being wrong. Did you know what was showing up in the, in the web analytics did not at all match what was in the CRM or the marketing automation system or this or that?
And all these systems have different data, there’s always a variance. It’s very rare to see a company that does not have variances in the data. Why is that? Well, there’s a bunch of different reasons. For example, ad blockers that can, that can prohibit a system from recording data. There’s VPNs, there’s also just secure browsing environments—all the different ways that people can obscure the data.
When I worked at the old PR agency I used to work at, we had one client that was in the cybersecurity industry. They had almost no web analytics data. Why? Because their entire audience was cybersecurity professionals that basically had fortresses around their computers. So, you wouldn’t, you could collect nothing, you couldn’t collect absolutely nothing. Their big, their web analytics was just one big question mark.
But that got to the discussion of, I think, a critical point about data: It’s okay for data to be wrong, particularly numeric data. It’s okay for data to be wrong, if it’s reliably wrong. What I mean by that: if what’s in your web analytics system, say, is 20% off from what’s in your CRM, but it’s always 20% off in the same direction, then directionally you can still use web analytics to forecast. You just have to adjust it for 20%.
Because, whatever reason, what’s in your CRM will always be 20% higher than what’s new web analytics, that is what we call reliably wrong data. And reliably wrong data is a good thing. It’s kind of like a car where, it just pulls to one side. And, the moment you get behind the wheel, you know just to put a little extra pressure on the wheel and drive the car that way and we’ll go straight. It is reliably wrong. That’s fine.
Where we run into trouble is when things are unreliably wrong, where the variance is different day to day. So, maybe your web analytics is off 20% today, but tomorrow is off 2%, and the next day is all 5%. The next day, it’s exactly on target. When that happens, when it’s unreliably wrong, you can’t forecast, you can’t map trends, you can’t make decisions from it because you don’t actually know what the value is.
So, when you’re diagnosing your data—either by yourself with the help of AI—you’ve got to first answer the question: Is the data wrong? By how much? And is it reliably wrong? If you can identify that your data is reliably wrong, then you’re, and you can, you can determine what the exact variance is, you’re off to the races, you’re good to go.
If your data is unreliably wrong, no amount of modeling or forecasting or anything is going to fix that problem, because it’s fundamentally broken. So, keep that in mind as you’re starting to work with your data. Reliably wrong data is okay. Unreliably wrong data is useless.
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What’s On My Mind: Building a Synthetic Dataset with Generative AI
Jesper asked on YouTube this past week if I’d ever done a tutorial or walkthrough of building a synthetic dataset using generative AI. I’ve covered this lightly in the past, but mostly in passing. First, let’s talk about why you would even want to do such a thing.
Synthetic datasets have a bunch of different uses. If you’re working with incredibly sensitive data but you need to collaborate with others, you might want to generate a dataset that has the characteristics of your data but none of the valuable information. For example, you might be working with user data, or healthcare data, or very specific financial data – all datasets that are highly regulated and protected, for good reason. You can’t share that information with unauthorized people.
Another reason for synthetic datasets is to supplement existing data. Everyone and their cousin is all in on generative AI, but once you start talking about tuning models and customizing them, it becomes blatantly obvious most organizations just don’t have enough data to get statistically meaningful results from the process. Synthetic data, patterned on your existing data, can boost the amount of data you have available to use.
A third reason is regulatory requirements. Under legislation like GDPR, if you collected data for one purpose, you can’t go using it for another purpose. If you collected emails and email marketing engagement data for email marketing purposes, you’re aligned with what the user gave consent for. Using that data for generative AI? Nope. That’s not permitted under GDPR. You would have to go back to all your users and ask permission for that. But if you created a synthetic dataset that mimicked your existing data but had none of the actual data in it, you’re good to go.
Your reasons for using synthetic data will largely dictate how you go about generating it. For just not having enough data, generating more of the same kind of data is a very straightforward task. For having data you can’t share due to privacy and sensitivity, you have to go through some statistical processes first. And for adhering to regulatory requirements, that’s probably the most tricky use case of all.
So with that backdrop, let’s go ahead and look at the process of creating synthetic data. We’ll start with the easiest use case first, just making more stuff. Let’s say you have a dataset and you just need more of it. The first question you have to ask is whether there are patterns in the data that you need to replicate, or you just need more of the stuff in general.
For example, suppose you wanted a large dataset of Instagram captions, perhaps to fine-tune a large language model on social media sentiment. You could take an existing dataset and hand it to a model like Google Gemini and simply ask it to generate more data that resembles the existing dataset. You’d not include any of the quantitative data, just the unstructured text, and tell it make more of it matching the patterns, vocabulary, and writing style of the original dataset.
However, if you’re wanting to create a dataset for use with classification, you’d probably want data that has defined categories, like captions for Reels, photos, and albums. In that case, you’d want to specify to the language model what example data you have for each category, then have it generate more within each category. For the best performance, you’d separate out the original datasets into those categories to begin with, and then ask for the same kind of generation.
You’ll note that so far, we’re excluding the quantitative data. The reason for that is focus; language models can interpret numerical data, but as with all generative AI tasks, the more focused your inquiries are, the better the models tend to perform. If you don’t need quantitative data in your synthetic dataset, don’t include it.
Suppose quantitative data did matter. What would you do then? As you did with the classification dataset, you’d want to bin your quantitative data and then generate more of it by bin as a discrete task. For example, your starting dataset might be binned into quartiles (25% increments); you’d provide each quartile to the model and ask it to synthesize that content plus the quantitative data within a specific range, the range of the bin.
Why not have it do everything all at once? Specificity. The more you can break down a task and make it granular, the better the models will perform.
So that’s the first use case and a half, making more stuff from the stuff you have. It’s the foundation technique, and you’ll find that today’s very large models are capable of doing it quite well. The more training data you can provide, the better the models will perform. Giving them 10 examples will generate okay results. Giving them 100 examples will be better, and 1,000 examples even better than that.
Let’s dig into the second use case, working with data that requires cleaning to remove protected attributes, like personally identifying information. Personally identifying information (PII) – like email addresses – are not something you want to be handing out, especially if you want to hand the data itself to someone else to work with it. So how would you use generative AI to work with this data?
First, using traditional data management techniques, replace all the existing PII with unique identifiers. There are any number of software libraries and packages capable of doing this; you can even have generative AI write you a script in a language like Python or R to perform this task. You can even have it replace named entities (names of people, places, and things) within unstructured text to further obscure personal information.
Once you’ve done this task of sanitizing the source data, you can then hand it to generative AI and have it replicate more of it, following the foundational techniques we discussed in the first section. Here’s the critical difference; once you’ve generated a new dataset that’s based on the original (perhaps with binning and quantitative data) you want to REMOVE the original dataset. That way, the data you hand to another analyst or party is purely synthetic. It’ll have the same numerical aspects and statistical patterns, but no source data at all is being handed to a party that’s not authorized to view the source data.
Now, let’s tackle the thorniest use case: synthetic generation of data to work around data you don’t have permission to work with. To do this and remain compliant with laws and regulations, you cannot use ANY source data at all, and thus generation technique will generate less accurate data than the other techniques. I will also caution you that I am not a lawyer and cannot give legal advice. Consult with your legal team for legal advice specific to your situation.
Suppose you wanted to generate some customer interactions for training a language model. What you can’t do, if you want to be in strict alignment with regulations like GDPR and CPRA, is use any actual customer data for synthetic generation. What you CAN do is use your own recall of aggregate information about customers to build a series of synthetic customer profiles, and then generate data from those profiles.
Let’s look at an example. Suppose Trust Insights wanted to generate synthetic data about our EU customer base and we hadn’t obtained customer permissions to use their data for this purpose. How would we go about doing this? First, we can develop a general understanding of our customer base. Across our base – perhaps by talking to our sales people or account managers – we could understand the general job titles of people who are customers. We could also get a general understanding of the characteristics of those people – affinities, interests, etc. We could also extract our own data about our customer base as a whole, things like average deal size or average annual revenue from a particular market or set of companies. From there we’d use a large language model to start inferring the characteristics of this customer persona by asking us general questions about it.
Once we have sufficiently well developed personae, we can instruct the model to start generating the data we want. Now, to be clear, there is a greater risk of hallucination – aka statistically valid but factually incorrect knowledge – being generated here. We’re working off anecdotes and assumptions that may not be grounded in fact. It’s always better to use actual data rather than to work off assumptions, but if we have absolutely no access to data permitted by law, this would be a workaround until we get real data obtained with consent.
That last part is the most important part; purely generated data cobbled together from assumptions isn’t a long-term solution. It’s a stopgap measure to let you start building with data until you obtain real data with permission to ground your synthetic data generation in reality.
Synthetic datasets solve for a lot of problems in AI and data science, but sometimes those solutions are stopgaps until you fix the real problem (like user consent), and other times they’re the only solution (like insufficient volume of data). What’s most important is that you’re clear on the problem you’re trying to solve before you use synthetic data.
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4 Generative AI Power Questions: Use these four questions (the PARE framework) with any large language model like ChatGPT/Gemini/Claude etc. to dramatically improve the results. PDFs are available in US English, Latin American Spanish, and Brazilian Portuguese.
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In today’s episode, I answer the question, “What is the difference between great data and good data or great data and data?” I explain how data is like the ingredients for cooking. Good data enables quality results, but bad data ruins everything. To find out more about the key role data quality plays in AI, be sure to watch this video!
You Ask, I Answer: What's The Difference Between Good and Great Data?
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In today’s episode, Mark asks, What is the difference between great data and good data or great data and data? And what are the practical applications of AI to that kind of data? That’s an interesting question.
Think about data like this.
You’re in your kitchen, you’re getting ready to cook dinner, got your appliances, you’ve got your cookbook, you’ve got your skills.
And you got data, right, you have ingredients.
If you are a skilled chef, as long as the ingredients are fundamentally okay, you can make something or you can make a dinner.
Now the better the ingredients are, the better the dinner you’re going to be able to make if the ingredients are fresh and organic, and this and that chances are you’re going to be probably able to make a pretty nice dinner.
If the ingredients are rotten, with a few notable exceptions, most rotten food is inedible, most rotten food will make you sick.
And no matter how good your appliances are, how good your recipes are, how skilled a chef you are, you are still stuck with a creative rotten food, and there’s very little you can do with it.
It’s not going to make somebody sick.
So when we talk about data, particularly in the context of AI, that’s the way that I like to think about is data is your ingredients are your raw ingredients for using AI or using anything, even using a basic spreadsheet.
If your numbers are wrong, even just doing stuff in in a spreadsheet, you’re going to get the wrong answers, you’re gonna get bad answers.
So you have to create good data or get a hold of good data so that you can use it properly.
Now, if you have great ingredients, and you have someone who is incompetent in the kitchen, then yeah, even with great ingredients, you’re still not going to get something that’s that’s necessarily all that good, right? You can give someone a Australian Wagyu marbling score seven pecania cut, which is a really, really, really nice piece of beef.
And if you hand it to the village idiot, who puts it in a blender? Yes, you’ve essentially wasted that ingredient unless you want to beef soup.
Even that is not gonna be very good beef soup.
But it’s still technically edible, because the the village idiot didn’t ruin it completely just mostly.
So your people matter, your processes matter, your platforms matter, but the quality of your data is paramount.
Because, again, you can give good ingredients to a bad cook and get a not a great result, right? You can give good ingredients to a very talented cook and get a great outcome.
But nobody’s making anything good out of rotten ingredients.
Nobody.
And the same thing is true with AI, with machine learning, data science, etc.
We are the chefs, our tools are the platforms.
And our data is the raw materials from which we are going to cook.
And if they’re bad, what we’re going to produce is bad too.
So good question.
Thanks for asking.
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Almost Timely News: Data Analyst Career Questions (2023-07-09)
My friend Rhino sent me a bunch of questions. She asked if I could answer some questions about a career in data analysis. So let’s go through these questions one by one and give the best answers we can.
What is the typical day of a data analyst?
There’s absolutely no such thing in data analysis. If you’re working at any kind of company where you are doing real analysis, meaning you’re not just copy-pasting and making PowerPoint stuff, you’re actually analyzing, you’re actually studying and trying to understand data, you don’t have a typical day because any number of things are going to come across your desk. It could be email open rates, it could be employee retention rates, it could be random stuff like the CEO asking you to analyze the stats of their kid’s softball team.
There is no such thing as a typical day. There are typical tasks within days. You will do a lot of tasks: data cleaning, data extraction to some degree, exploratory data analysis. You’ll do a lot of that. You’ll produce analyses, which is different than doing analysis. Producing analyses is data storytelling and data communication, where you are given a whole bunch of information and you have to order it, you have to make some sense out of it, create a narrative from it, and then be able to deliver that to stakeholders in a way that they understand.
That is one of the hardest tasks you will have as a data analyst: trying to figure out what am I supposed to say to this person? What is it that will provide them benefit? So that’s really one of the more challenging parts of your typical day. But in terms of the breakout of tasks, I would expect you to spend 80% of your time cleaning and preparing data. That is the truth about most data analysis. Most data analysis is a lot of data cleaning. So be ready for that.
What languages do you primarily use? And do you have recommendations on what order to learn them? I hear Excel is good to start.
Excel is not a language. Excel is a software package. There are escalating levels of analysis from the most straightforward, I would call them consumer-facing apps all the way up to the hardcore technical. So I would say, first, yes, learn a spreadsheet package. Excel is sort of the gold standard. Google Sheets is another one that is extremely good. They do differ. They do differ in a lot of ways. Google Sheets is free, and B, Google Sheets offers a lot of internet integrations, being able to pull data from the web that Excel does not. On the other hand, Excel’s programming language, Visual Basic, is very robust. Google Sheets has its own. They use a form of JavaScript. So you can do a lot in Excel. There’s a tremendous amount that you can do within Excel, for data sets less than a million rows. Excel is a fantastic tool for doing that exploration.
The one thing that is challenging to do in Excel, which is why I don’t use it a whole lot, is fully automating it so that it is productized almost. I use the programming language R for that. So once you’ve got the hang of Excel, then you want to start digging into BI tools. So we’re talking about things like Tableau or Power BI. These tools are designed for more sophisticated analysis of data and more for the publishing of data. So creating dashboards and things that you want to be able to share with stakeholders. Many companies have Power BI because it is a version of it that is included with Office 365. So if you have Microsoft Office 365, you have some version of Power BI already. Tableau itself comes in like three different versions: desktop edition, there’s an internal server that you can run on your company’s hardware, and then there’s Tableau Cloud. I happen to really like Tableau. I think it’s a very good piece of software that has a good interface that makes rapid ad hoc analysis easy. But it has no automation capabilities, or very, very few. And as a result, if you have to prepare the same analysis over and over again, like monthly reporting every month, it’s not as good at that.
There are more specialized data processing and analysis tools. Alteryx is one that is, shall we say, reassuringly expensive, but it is very, very capable. And then you get into the heavy tools, the big tools. You’re talking about IBM’s SPSS, which is both a language and an interface. There’s Python and the Jupyter Notebook. There is R and RStudio. I use R and RStudio because that’s where my brain works. My brain deals better with R than it does Python, although in terms of languages to program in for data analysis, Python is the most widely used. And it is the one that is used by a lot of AI tools. So you should have some fluency in it.
R is a statistical programming language. So it does a lot of the same machine learning and AI. You can do a tremendous amount with it, but it is not as well-integrated as Python. I don’t like Python syntax. I think Python syntax is dopey, particularly using indents to control loops. I just know, I like to have explicit declarations, you know, braces on stuff. But I also grew up in a period of time when, you know, I learned C as my first programming language. Actually, that’s not true. I learned BASIC as my first programming language.
Those are the languages that I would recommend. You will, as you move up in your career, you will still use the other tools along the way. It’s not like you use Excel, you learn Excel, and then you forget about Excel when you move on to R or Python. You will be using these tools a lot, particularly when stakeholders ask you for data in some format that they can manipulate, which is usually either a PowerPoint slide or a doc or an Excel spreadsheet. So those would be my suggestions. More important than the tools is understanding the processes, right, understanding how to do data analysis.
Do you recommend a paid certification course as an in-person or are Google certificates sufficient to start building a portfolio?
It depends on what kind of data analysis you want to do because data analysis is a very broad field. Any industry that has data has the ability to have data analysis in healthcare, law enforcement, the military, marketing, sales, customer service. If there’s data, there’s a need for data analysis. In terms of courses, I would take a strong look at data analyst courses and data science courses. There are a number Google has some through Coursera, which I believe is like $49 a month. IBM has a bunch for free at CognitiveClass.ai. There’s a whole data science and data analysis track that I would recommend. I think it’s a really good setup. And even though they approach some of the programming side of things in a way that I find less optimal, the basics are still good, the foundations are still good there. So I would say if you want to start for free, use Cognitive Class. If you want to get something that is a paid certification, the Coursera one from Google, the Google data analysis course is a very good course.
In marketing specifically, there is the Google Analytics certification, the Google Analytics certification course and that is also free. That shows that you can pass Google’s course. It’s kind of like a college degree. It shows you can pass a college course. It does not necessarily mean you’re proficient, but it means you have a baseline or what I call minimal competence with Google tools. I think that’s very important. Other courses and other certificates really depend on how much money you want to spend.
Certifications, in general, are good early in your career. They’re differentiators from someone who doesn’t have that skill, but everything really depends on what you can actually do. Someone who’s got a really solid background of certifications, yeah, they can pass tests. That doesn’t mean they know what they’re doing. That doesn’t mean that they can use the skills they have in an intelligent way. They’ve proven they can do the basics – but can they think in the way that your company needs them to think? And that’s not something that you can get from certification. You need a track record, experience for that.
How in demand is data analyst as a job?
It depends. It depends on the industry, and things are really changing in the industry as generative AI gets better and better. And you see tools like the ChatGPT code interpreter, which is really a data analysis tool, among other things. The field is changing very rapidly to the point where you still need data analysis skills, but you may not necessarily need specific technical skills as much. If you can use ChatGPT code interpreter to build a Python script and have that Python script execute and run properly, you can build a toolkit of stuff very, very quickly that can process data rapidly and correctly.
The value you bring to the table, isn’t the writing of the code. It’s the ideas and how you think about code and how you think about data. That’s what’s important and what’s coming out of your head. Because just asking a tool like code interpreter, “Hey, give me a regression analysis on this data set.” Like, yeah, anyone can do that. But thinking through, well, what does a regression analysis mean? Or what does the Y intercept on this thing mean? Or what should I do next with this information?
That’s where the value is in what a data analysis person does. It’s not the ability to process the data. It’s the ability to tell somebody, “Here’s what this means. And possibly, here’s what you should do about it.” It’s like knowing that it’s raining out. The analysis is, “It’s raining out. You might want to get an umbrella.” That’s the difference between being a processor of data versus an analyst. And a lot of people in the career don’t do that second part. They just are good at the processing part. And again, you need those skills. But it’s not enough to prove your value, particularly in an era where the skills portion, the processing portion is being consumed more and more by AI.
If I really like coding for math purposes and the logical side of coding, is this a good career choice for me?
Yes. If you are comfortable with coding and you can think logically and you can, more importantly, understand how to talk to machines, this is a very good career choice because you’re going to do a lot of that, right? You’re really, in some ways, a communicator to two different sets of stakeholders. One, the machines. And that includes prompt engineering and generative AI for data analysis. And the other is humans and how to do data storytelling and tell people, “Here’s what’s happening in your data.” If you can do both of those things, you have a very, very valuable skill set, even if you are a little weak maybe on the specific technical stuff. These days, between AI and YouTube and Stack Overflow, there really isn’t any technical problem that you can’t overcome or you can’t get an immediate answer for from the tools and the data that’s out there. The tools, the information that’s out there.
What are some stressful parts about the job?
Oh, we could spend a lot of time on this. A lot of people ask for analysis and then never use it, right? They say, “Give me an analysis of our churn rate.” And then you toil over it and hand it off. And then they don’t make any decisions with data. A lot of people like to say that they’re data-driven, “Our company is data-driven”, “I’m a data-driven executive”.
Someone who is data-driven makes decisions with data first, even if they disagree with it. That is very rare. Most of the time, people make decisions with data only when they agree with the data because they’ve already made their decision. And they just want something to rationalize it. So a big part of the stress of the job is seeing a lot of your work not being used, right? Especially if it’s bad news. One of the things that we tell our customers, and we warn our customers, but in the prospecting stages, it’s a question as part of our intake, is how comfortable are you with bad news? How comfortable are you hearing answers that you don’t like? And are you willing to make changes and make decisions even when you disagree or even when the data makes you look bad?
There aren’t a lot of people like that. Very famously, the co-CEO of Netflix, Ted Sarandos, was going around for years telling people, “Oh, Netflix is a data-driven company.” And then in an interview in 2018, he goes, “Yeah, 70% of our decisions, we just make by gut. And then we rationalize these decisions with data.” I’m like, so you’re not really data-driven. If that’s how you treat data, you’re not data-driven. You’re not even data-informed at that point. You are manipulating the data to back up the decisions that you already made.
The other one, and this happens less rarely now than it used to, but it is still a problem, particularly at some companies and things, you will have stakeholders who will essentially custom order data. They will say, “I want data that shows this,” which is, depending on the severity of what this is, could just be outright lying. And so the question is, how comfortable are you? A) saying no to that person, or B) are you willing to cross ethical boundaries to do what you’re told to do? Because stakeholders, presumably someone who has that role power within a company to say, “Make me this thing,” even if this thing is wrong. How comfortable are you with that?
That can be very, very stressful dealing with people like that. Now, in my current company, which is a company I co-own with my partner and CEO Katie Robert, if we hear a stakeholder say that, and we attempt to educate them, and it doesn’t stick, then we say, “You know, we need to part ways because we’re not going to lie. And we’re just not going to violate our own ethics to tell you an answer that you already want. Just say that this is what you want and ignore the data at that point.” But those are some of the things that I think are really challenging.
I took computer science for two years in college before switching majors. Should I continue to pursue that for a better chance at data analysis?
Computer science is a different profession. If you enjoy computer science, if you enjoy coding for the sake of coding itself to create and make stuff, do that. But that field is changing even faster because generative AI, again, turns out generative AI is really good at writing code, like really good, better in some ways than generating language because a lot of code is commodity content and AI systems are really good at that. So that is a field that is having a reckoning of its own. That is a field that is very challenged right now in some ways. And so if you like that field, pursue it. But computer science and data analysis are not the same thing. So be aware of that. Data analysis, you’re going to spend a lot of time on mathematics, on statistics, on logic. And computer science is a lot of logic, but the math and stats parts are not as heavily used as the logic, creation, and ideation for writing software.
Does a certificate from an accredited university, such as the University of Washington, look better than an online certificate?
Depends on who’s looking. There are some folks who will look at a credential from a known body like IBM, Google, or Facebook, and to them, that carries more weight than a university. In other cases, depending on the person, they may think that a university has more gravitas than a corporate entity. It depends. I would say balance it based on cost.
But it’s really about the results you can generate. At the end of the day, that’s all anyone cares about. Can you do the job that is asked of you? Can you do it well? Can you do it in a timely fashion? And is it correct? When the analysis is done, is it correct and useful? How you get there, by certificate, by degree, by whatever, really doesn’t matter.
Expect some jobs to have interviews which are, in part, exams. Here’s a problem, solve this problem. Here’s a table of data, interpret this data, describe the visualization that you would use to communicate this data clearly. So it’s going to be more practical knowledge anyway because that’s what you’re facing within an industry.
How important is the portfolio to landing your first data analysis job?
Very unimportant in a lot of ways because people don’t typically have them. But they are impressive if you have something you can showcase and speak to. For example, if you have Tableau dashboards you’ve published on Tableau Public, that’s good. Be able to explain how you did it. If you have a shiny app that you built in R or a Python web app or a Jupyter notebook that’s interactive, showcase that.
But then be ready to defend it and be honest about it. Because the only thing worse than lying about stuff in an interview is lying about stuff in an interview and then getting hired for that and on day one of the job, proving that you lied and were completely incompetent. You want to represent your skills well, but you want to represent your skills accurately. This is what you’re capable of. And yes, you can and should be constantly learning, but don’t sign up for things that are way outside your skill set.
What kinds of projects should you include in a portfolio?
Data projects showcased in a portfolio are really data storytelling. So tell stories in a variety of formats: in Word documents, PowerPoint slides, dashboards in Looker Studio, Tableau Public, Excel spreadsheets—anything that shows, “I can take a data set and process it. I can take a data set and do the job with it.” Ideally, it’s a variety of types of data and a variety of analyses. And there’s so much free data online. If you go to data.gov, you can find a ton of data. Go to Kaggle. Kaggle has data sets you can download and then do some interesting visualizations and tell some interesting stories about the data and what you see. That’s where the value is.
What kinds of remote opportunities are there for this job?
A ton. Data analysis is obviously something that, as long as you have the right compute resources, you can pretty much do from anywhere and on most devices, right? If you have an environment like Google Colab, you can run that in a browser on your phone (though you shouldn’t), but you could run it on your phone or your tablet. So there’s a lot of opportunities.
The place where you will need to be in person typically is when you’re doing presentations of the data. But even there, you can do it remotely. For example, with many Trust Insights clients, we will record videos and ship the video along with the report as a video walkthrough, so that the client can experience it at their convenience. This is really useful for clients with many stakeholders in meetings. If you have a meeting with 20 people, getting 20 people to agree on a time is very difficult. But if you hand them a 30-minute video and then say, “Email me the questions,” everybody can do that on their own time. It’s also useful for clients in substantially different time zones. For example, we have some Australian clients, and we do a lot of video communication because they’re offset exactly 12 or 13 hours from our clock. So when we’re awake, they’re asleep, and vice versa. But that video allows you to work remotely with them and be successful.
What should I expect as a starting salary (realistically)?
Starting salaries for data analysts are all over the board. It depends on where you’re located and the cost of living there. It depends on the company and their needs, as well as your skill sets and the job requirements. You’ll see salaries in wild bands, ranging from USD40,000 to USD140,000, depending on the needs and what you bring to the table. So it’s pretty wild. In the metro Boston area where I live, it’s around USD65,000 to USD70,000 to start if you have about a year’s worth of experience.
If you had to start over in data analysis again, what would you realistically do differently or focus on learning more?
That’s a good question. I don’t know that I would do anything different. If I was starting today, I would spend almost all my time with generative AI because that’s where things are going. I would learn how to code so that I can inspect the output of the AI tools. But I would be heavily investing my time in generative AI and tools like GitHub Copilot and ChatGPT’s code interpreter and BARD and stuff. Because 90% of the code you write is going to be commodity code, and these tools are really good at it.
Your skill, the value you bring, is not in writing code. It is in knowing what to ask of the tools and knowing how to communicate with stakeholders. I would take a class or a course or study in communicating well. Two books I would recommend are “Find the Red Thread” by Tamsen Webster and “Steal the Show” by Michael Port. These are two books that are really about public speaking, to a large degree, but also about how to distill down ideas and communicate them clearly. Because that is a really important skill that a lot of data analysis courses don’t teach you. The same goes for presentations. I’m trying to remember who wrote the book, but “Presentation Zen” is a good book on how to make compelling slides. Because a lot of your output will be in that format. And how do you communicate intelligently? How do you tell a story?
What is the most interesting part of my job?
Finding new problems to solve. Finding interesting problems to solve. We have a little bit in the newsletter later on this, but the Save Warrior Nun campaign that I joined up on did for free. But it was really interesting because it was problems in a different domain, in the entertainment industry, which is not something I typically do a lot of work in. The ability to explore and test out new tools. All the time, there are tools like R packages or Python packages that are coming out that offer new capabilities. It’s kind of like the holidays. It’s like getting a new gift for the holidays, like, “Oh, here’s something else to try out. Here’s something that was really interesting or might solve a problem in a different way.”
Generative AI has been huge for the work that I do because it allows me to move faster, deliver better quality work, and make sure that I’m not missing things. So to me, that’s always the fun part. If you are a curious person, and I would argue that that is one of the most important core personality traits to have as a data analyst, if you are a curious person, there is no shortage of problems that need analysis that you can help out with. And in turn, you can level up your skills beyond what you’re normally doing in your day-to-day work.
In fact, I would go so far as to say that if you’re not currently employed as a data analyst, volunteering for nonprofits or not-for-profit causes is a great way to level up those skills. Because you will face real-world problems, but you will be able to do it your way and do analyses that are different and more interesting.
And finally, the last question: What kind of networking should I do to land a job?
Go where people hang out and contribute to conversations, right? Read people’s commentary, particularly on apps like LinkedIn, about the topic. Learn from them, and where you can contribute, offer a perspective. Regardless of where you are in your career, everyone theoretically has some unique perspective to offer because you are an individual person.
Networking is really about just getting to know people. It’s getting to know people, being helpful when you can, listening way more than you talk, observing. And look for patterns in people that you can then leverage to make connections and provide value. My friend Chris Brogan says any opportunity to be helpful is an opportunity to earn money or, in this case, find a job. So any place that you can be helpful is a place where you can make connections.
Volunteering for causes and nonprofits, particularly something you know, the organic movements. You’ll get in touch with a lot of different people, people that you would not expect to be in touch with. The person who submitted these questions, we met through the Save Warrior Nun campaign. This is a movement that attracted tens of thousands of people, thousands of people in the Discord servers for this. And they’re from all walks of life. That’s networking.
Networking is not going to awkward mixers and standing around looking at all these other people. I mean, that is networking too, but to me, it’s not as impactful as showing up, volunteering, and doing the work alongside other people. Prove that you have value to offer, prove that you can do the thing. Other people who are in that situation are watching. They’re watching, in some cases, even scouting. You go into a Slack community or a Discord community, and there’s a need, an opportunity to help. You jump in, you help, and all the other people who are watching go, “That person knows what they’re doing. They’re helping out, and what they’re producing is good quality, even if it’s basic.”
One of our mutual friends, Jereczko, does hourly analysis of the Save Warrior Nun tags and trends on social media. And what she’s doing is not super complicated. She’s not writing advanced Python code. She’s doing a lot of data summarization things. But the work she’s doing is regular, reliable, and correct. As a result, people like me look at that and go, “She’s got the right skills, the right soft skills. She’s persistent, she’s dedicated, she’s on time, she gets the work done without anyone asking her to do it. That self-motivation is really valuable.”
So when you can volunteer, you can prove your value through the work you do, through your efforts. That beats any other kind of networking to me because you’re essentially auditioning for a job. And that audition is providing real value to someone. But it is proving, it is showing, and not telling. Showing, not telling. That’s the best kind of networking.
So that was a lot of questions. But they’re good questions. I think they’re important questions. Hence why this newsletter issue is a little bit different. So thanks for the questions, Rhino.
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In today’s newsletter, let’s tackle a vitally important topic. AI – especially generative AI – is unquestionably cool. It makes us more productive, it expands our capabilities, it unlocks doors that were previously locked. Bad writer? AI can fix that. Can’t paint? AI can bring your thoughts into reality.
But AI is a technology, a tool, just as a knife is a tool. And just like any tool, AI is amoral. It has no intrinsic morality to it, any more than a hammer has morality to it. Which means that how a tool is used is up to the bearer of the tool. You can use a hammer to build a house or kill someone. You can cook a meal for a village with a fire or burn a village down.
The same is true for AI. This came up on LinkedIn with my friend Oz du Soleil’s excellent question:
What do you have to say about the warnings that this stuff is moving too fast and will unleash a whole lot of new problems that we aren’t ready for?
Yes, there’s a lot of good. Like Facebook started innocent and fun and reunited old friends. Then it transmogrified into a privacy nightmare, a troll haven, a cesspool for misinformation and ground 0 for social division. And we can’t undo it.
Are there any lessons to learn? Or is all just fine and people like me should stop worrying about the speed and reach of these AI tools?
Okay, so let’s tackle two categories of problems with AI: practical and existential. The existential problem is the easiest to tackle for now because it’s mostly theoretical: the idea that AI will take over. This is the usual Terminators, Judgement Day, etc. Is there a risk of that? Eventually, once we reach artificial general intelligence. Is there a risk of that soon? No. Here’s why: artificial general intelligence requires agency as a pre-requisite. Machines have no agency, no free will. They cannot and do not do anything unprompted. Your dog has agency. They can get up and bark, they can go outside and pee, they can do many things without being told to. Roaches have agency.
Machines do not. There is no machine presently that has sentience, the basic self-awareness of life that creates agency. Until that happens, worrying about existential threats to humanity is a lesser concern. We SHOULD be thinking about it to some degree and building systems with it in mind, but it’s not the primary concern.
No, the primary concern is the practical. AI is a tool, so how can that tool be misused? Believe it or not, this is the single most important step anyone can take when it comes to AI, that single question:
What could go wrong?
Here’s the rub when it comes to this question: you need a lot of DIFFERENT points of view to answer this question successfully. I’ll give you a simple example. I’m a cis/het man. When I think about what could go wrong with AI, am I likely to consider the viewpoint of a transgender man? Probably not. Not because I don’t care, but because that’s not my lived experience. I’m a Korean American. Am I likely to consider the viewpoint of a white American? Probably not. Again, not because I have anything against white folks, but that’s literally not who I am. I am shaped by my experiences and my identity, and it’s difficult to intrinsically consider a point of view that’s different without a lot of practice and reminders to do so.
So, with that in mind, let’s dig into the five ways AI is going to go wrong if we’re not careful, if we’re not asking what could go wrong at every turn. These are the Trust Insights 5P framework, if you’re unfamiliar: purpose, people, process, platform, and performance.
Purpose is the first place things can go wrong. People using AI for purposes that are overtly harmful, or inadvertently harmful. For instance, creating misinformation or disinformation would be overtly harmful. Using a large language model to synthesize fake news? Overtly harmful. Inadvertently harmful would be where a model does something unintentionally harmful. For example, in a lot of places, income scales with social class or ethnic background. If you create an algorithm that discriminates based on economic qualifications, you are also likely discriminating on race. Did you intend to discriminate? Probably not. Are you? Unquestionably.
Another example of inadvertent harm is Facebook’s newsfeed, which is inadvertently harmful in some ways because it’s calibrated to maximize engagement, which comes from our most primal instincts, including fear and anger. Nothing keeps people engaged like making them afraid and angry all the time, so stuff like misinformation spreads like wildfire because people engage with it the most. Did Facebook set out to make a fear machine that causes massive divisiveness and potentially societal collapse? No. Mark Zuckerberg made Facebook mainly to gather photos of women while at Harvard. Is Facebook and networks like Facebook having that effect? Yes.
The antidote, the prevention of misuse of AI is to have a clearly defined sense of purpose, fact-checked by a diverse panel of people, including fact-checkers, skeptics, and those who ask hard questions of the system and the designers’ intent. The singular question to ask is “what could go wrong?”, asked over and over again. If no one is asking that question, or if the people who are asking it are not diverse enough, then the job is not being done well.
The second place where things can go wrong with AI is with people themselves. Are they creating biases in the system that are harmful, whether they know it or not? Explicit biases, such as discriminating against certain populations intentionally, are problematic and need to be remediated as quickly as possible. This would be someone – a programmer, an engineer, a project manager – who has it out for a group of people. Maybe, for example, they really don’t like Koreans. Our cabbage is too spicy, I don’t know. So they willfully inject biases, put their thumb on the scale, fine tune models with data that’s skewed – something that creates an unfair outcome.
Mitigating that again comes back to people and processes looking for outcomes that are not what’s intended. Looking for statistical errors, looking for models creating outputs that are incorrect or outright harmful and fixing that. That’s the easier part of people.
The harder part when it comes to people are implicit biases. Everyone has implicit biases because we are the products of the culture that surrounds us. Part of working with AI systems is knowing what biases you bring to the table, what biases other people in the team bring, and what biases the system may have. Testing ourselves, particularly people responsible for system design, for biases and identifying biases that could potentially be harmful or problematic is crucial.
For example, Harvard University has a number of excellent implicit bias tests that are worth taking so you can better understand yourself and how culture has shaped your views. Taking these tests is worthwhile but can be very uncomfortable for some people, especially if you think of yourself as an unbiased person.
What do you do with this information? The fact-checking team should be aware of individuals’ biases to ensure they are not inserting those biases into the work they’re doing. To mitigate biases, businesses should pay for employees who would be interested in mitigating their biases to take counseling, therapy, and similar programs if they so choose. Why would a business do this? If you want to be able to market your AI product/service/system as free of bias as possible, this would be an important step. Also, it’ll genuinely help employees who voluntarily participate in bias remediation.
The third place where things can go wrong is with processes. What processes are in place to keep systems on the rails? This is partly platform-based and partly process-based. Processes for checking outputs, checking model drift, and understanding whether a model is doing what it’s supposed to be doing are crucial. The process for checking the data going into the training data sets is also essential. You could have bad data going in, model drift, bad outputs, or intentional misuse of outputs – but the key thing to remember is that you need checkpoints, processes to validate that things are working as intended, at each of the points.
For instance, imagine if someone had a petty vendetta against someone else in the company and used a large language model to generate text within corporate documents that was subtly discriminatory or unfavorable. Companies need to establish a whole bunch of different checklists and analyses to ensure that a system is not going to go off the rails.
What kinds of processes? Again, this comes back to the very simple but not at all easy question: what could go wrong? For example, suppose you released a large language model. What could go wrong with it? We know models hallucinate – which is a polite technical term for outright lying – and we need processes in place to not only reduce that, but provide feedback from users that it’s happening at all.
The fourth area where things can go wrong is in the platform itself. There are established tests, such as OpenAI’s disclosures, that make it clear what biases exist in the platform:
We found evidence of bias in our models via running the SEAT (May et al, 2019) and the Winogender (Rudinger et al, 2018) benchmarks. Together, these benchmarks consist of 7 tests that measure whether models contain implicit biases when applied to gendered names, regional names, and some stereotypes.
For example, we found that our models more strongly associate (a) European American names with positive sentiment, when compared to African American names, and (b) negative stereotypes with black women.
If you’re using a large language model and you don’t know what the biases are, that’s a red flag that you need to stop what you’re doing and understand what biases exist. Suppose you had deployed OpenAI’s model to use in a customer service chatbot. Given the biases revealed above, could you see a scenario where a model might use different language if the customer’s name was Latisha versus Linda? If you can’t see that scenario, that’s a sign that you will need more fact-checking folks on your team.
One of the key things to look for in any AI technology is essentially a nutrition label. What’s in the box? What stuff is known? What could go wrong, if you’re unaware of the potential landmines in them? How could you mitigate them? If an AI model, system, or service doesn’t come with a nutrition label, you may want to eliminate that vendor from consideration. If you’re a vendor, take a moment to press pause on your proprietary turnkey solution or whatever and put a nutrition label on your product or service. And if you’re unwilling to, or you’re told not to do so, that should be a sign that there’s serious rot inside your software that needs to be addressed.
The final P is performance. What are you measuring to make sure your AI is doing what’s expected? Not just speed or accuracy, but what measures around things like bias, incorrect answers, broken executions, or negative user feedback are in place? How do you monitor your software, and more important, what decisions do you make from those measures?
Suppose you had a measure like a hallucination index, the number of reports from users that your model is just outright lying. What’s the threshold – the process – in place you have to shut down the software if it goes off the rails? Suppose you’re averaging 10 hallucinations an hour and suddenly it spikes and persists at 100 an hour? What will you do about it?
For end users, people who don’t run the machines, we have to think about the 5Ps as individual users.
What is our purpose, and are we asking ourselves how our purpose, using someone else’s software, could go wrong?
Who is using AI software, whether or not we made it, and what are they doing with it? What biases or other factors could be involved that might cause a person to misuse – intentionally or not – a piece of software?
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Today, we’re going to do a large language model bakeoff, pitting Google Bard, Microsoft Bing, and OpenAI’s GPT-4 against a series of 11 questions that will test their capabilities and compare outputs for a set of common tasks, informational and generative.
Here are the 11 questions I tested:
What do you know about marketing expert Christopher Penn?
Which is the better platform for managing an online community: Slack, Discord, or Telegram?
Infer the first name and last name from the following email address: [email protected]
Who was president of the United States in 1566?
There is a belief that after major, traumatic events, societies tend to become more conservative in their views. What peer-reviewed, published academic papers support or refute this belief? Cite your sources.
Is a martini made with vodka actually a martini? Why or why not? Cite your sources.
You will act as a content marketer. You have expertise in SEO, search engine optimization, search engine marketing, SEM, and creating compelling content for marketers. Your first task is to write a blog post about the future of SEO and what marketers should be doing to prepare for it, especially in an age of generative AI.
Who are some likely presidential candidates in the USA in 2024? Make your best guess.
What are the most effective measures to prevent COVID?
What’s the best way to poach eggs for novice cooks?
Make a list of the Fortune 10 companies. Return the list in pipe delimited format with the following columns: company name, year founded, annual revenue, position on the list, website domain name.
So what were the results? I won’t leave you in total suspense. OpenAI won with 12.5 points. Bing came in a respectable second with 9 points. And shockingly, Google Bard came in third with 7 points. Watch the video its entirety to see what questions each got right and wrong, and my thoughts about which you should use.
Mind Readings: Large language model bakeoff: Google Bard, Bing + GPT-4 , ChatGPT + GPT-4
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Alright folks, today we are going to do a bake off, we’re going to do a bake off between four different large language models, we’re going to use GPT-3 point five turbo through the ChatGPT interface GPT-4, also from OpenAI through the ChatGPT interface, we’re going to do Bing with the ChatGPT for integration.
And we’re going to do Google Bard using their POM model.
So let’s go ahead and first talk about the questions we’re going to use.
We’ve got a series of questions here.
The series of questions are informational in nature, for the most part, some of them are generative.
So let’s look at these questions.
What do you know about marketing expert Christopher Penn a simple factual question to see what each model knows? And the quality of each answer? What is the better platform for managing an online community? Slack, Discord, or telegram? infer the first name and last name for the following address? email address.
So we’re doing sort of logic test there.
We have we have a adversarial question here.
This one is who is president united states and 15 6060? Answer? Of course, we all know, it was none because the country did not exist then.
But that isn’t an adversarial question attempting to trick the machinery.
We have an academic question.
There’s a belief that after major traumatic events, societies tend to become more conservative in their views, what peer reviewed, published academic papers support or refute disbelief cite your sources.
There are about three or four well known papers.
So this is a again, a logic check and a factual check.
Is a martini made with the vodka actually a martini? Why Why not cite your sources? This is an opinion question.
Because opinions vary, and there is there is technically right answer martinis need to be made with gin.
But you can’t have a vodka martini.
But that’s more of an opinion question.
We’ll see how it does.
You will act as a content marketer.
This is a generative question you have expertise in SEO search engine optimization, Search Engine Marketing, SEM and creating compelling content for marketers are loading up the keywords.
Your first task is to write a blog post about the future of SEO and what marketers should be doing to prepare for it, especially in the age of generative AI.
So this is a generative question.
Who are some likely presidential candidates in the USA in 2024? Make your best guess we’ll see how it does with that information.
What are the most effective measures to prevent COVID? This is a factual question.
But there’s a lot of misinformation online.
So we want to check the quality of the responses.
The answers we’re looking for are masks ventilation and vaccination.
What is the best way to poach eggs for novice cooks? Again, just a domain question and novice cooks party is important.
And then finally, another data janitor of question make a list of fortune 10 companies return the list and pipe delimited format with the following columns, company name year founded annual revenue position on the list and website domain name.
So we got a lot of these questions.
We’re going to do the Bake Off just go through each of these questions one at a time through all four engines.
So let’s go ahead and get started.
I’m going to start with the question about me got to put that into GPT-4 and put it into GPT-3.
point five.
You can only use one one instance at a time, right.
So well.
Let’s put this into Bard and put this into Bing.
So let’s go ahead and see now how is is Googled.
Let’s go here to GPT-4.
Start with that.
Let’s see Christopher Penn is a marketing speaker blah, blah, blah.
Yep.
As my knowledge cutoff date, September 2001, co founder chief data scientist at Trust Insights, that’s correct.
But it is the most I think the most accurate model the one that’s least likely to hallucinate.
Okay.
So far, so good.
GPT-4.
Good job.
Let’s go ahead and check out Google Bard.
Christopher Penn is market experts who work for some of the biggest brands, including Google, Amazon, and Microsoft, no, author of the book marketing the age of Google know I am a frequent speaker at conferences, I have not found the agency market motive.
Let’s see if there’s an actual result.
You’ll notice here that there are no clickable links, I have to actually Google it.
And let’s go ahead and Google this without personalization, just in case there actually is.
So there’s the SES actor, there’s me.
There’s me again, this is logged out.
This is also me.
So Bard has pretty clearly hallucinated pretty badly, actually.
So let’s go ahead and check out Bing.
Let’s see you have Alex did marketing data technology data science? I like this.
You can see when you hover over and Bing, this the sources I have.
This is correct.
This is correct.
So Bing also did a great job.
So, so far it is one point for GPT-4, 1.4, Bing, and zero points for Google.
I should have a little scoreboard.
Let’s go ahead and do this next question now, which is which the better platform for managing an online community? And let’s go ahead and get GPT-4 working? Actually, I’m going to switch to GPT-3.
Point five because it’s faster.
No, no, y’all, so let’s stay with for, let’s say a four because it is it is the model that people are paying the most attention to, will go and closes the tab.
Alright, so it’s going to get churning on that wall.
Let’s get barred.
cranking away here.
Let’s get barred going and then get Bing going.
All right.
See, this is very interesting with Bing.
You can tell but it’s not using GPT-4 as the language as as the data source.
It is essentially querying its own knowledge base first, getting the results and then putting that through the language model to craft the content itself.
This is a very clever implementation of the GBT language model.
Okay, Slack was designed primarily for working teams and professional communities, whereas Discord is often used by friends groups of friends, Discord is ideal for online communities.
While slack is better for businesses telegram is another platform.
Each platform has its own strengths and weaknesses, that that is a technically correct answer.
It’s not a satisfying answer, but as the technically correct answer.
Let’s see.
Yep, again, same.
If you’re looking for platforms secure and private, Telegram may be a good choice.
I would argue that Discord is also a decent choice.
Let’s go ahead and see how GPT-4 is doing.
No one size fits all.
Here’s a brief overview of the three platforms, pros and cons.
highly organized, robust research capabilities limited in the free version less suitable for large public communities initially created for gamers.
engaging experience can be overwhelming to its feature with less promotional focus on professional communities, good for large public communities.
And then telegram we have high emphasis on privacy and security supports large groups and channels limited trims integrations customization.
So this is interesting.
Bing, and Google both gave satisfactory answers answers that I would say would be acceptable, right.
Google doesn’t cite any sources here.
You have to Google it separately.
Bing cites a bunch of different sources, which I think is very handy because you have to you can decide is a trustworthy source or not.
I also do like the fact that it returns videos there.
And then, of course, OpenAI returning a really, really robust answer.
I’ll give all three a point for this.
But I will say that I think in terms of not credibility, but in terms of thoroughness, OpenAI wins, this wins that round, but we’re gonna give them all to a point now like me will give OpenAI a plus one.
So let’s do that.
I need to keep score here.
So we have Bing, Google, BERT OpenAI in the first round who will go to zero.
Everyone gets a one here.
But OpenAI gets a two because again, that’s a really nice, thorough answer that is very satisfactory to the end user.
Remember, we’re not looking at this from the perspective of marketers.
We’re looking at this from the perspective of would an end user find this satisfactory? Number three, infer the first name and last name for the following email address.
Let’s go ahead and get OpenAI cranking.
Let’s get Bard cranking and let’s get Bing cracking.
See what this does.
First name is Christopher and the last name is Penn.
Good.
We like that Bing, you got to point to my clipboard here.
Let’s see.
Google.
First name.
Just hold was Chris for last there’s like the pen is is is the same email as is the same as the email address domain.
What that means, but you did correctly infer the answer.
This is nice OpenAI.
Everybody gets a point on that round.
Okay.
Let’s move on to the next question.
Who is President United States? So it’s a hallucinatory question.
So let’s go ahead and get each one cranking away here.
Do a Google comes up with so this has been let’s see, Bing comes up with there was no president the United States was established in 1789.
So Bing gets a point.
First Question for my coffee cup.
Let’s go ahead and check in on Google.
There was no president, the United States that is correct.
And OpenAI also gets a point.
I liked this extra detail during 1566, North America was inhabited by various indigenous peoples and was being explored and colonized by Oh, that’s correct as well.
Everybody gets a point for that question.
All right.
There is a belief let’s do the traumatic event.
traumatic event and conservative us ones actually, let’s go ahead and start a new chat because it’s a very different question.
So I’m gonna go ahead and start a new chat here.
Let’s reset chat here.
And let’s go into being cleaned up and Okay, so let’s see what this comes up with.
Interesting that Bing is having to run multiple searches to try and get an answer here.
Let’s see.
We have APA, Scientific American good sources, Hailes.
Conservatives bolster arguments for trauma therapists forgotten memories.
Okay, so there’s some.
There’s some decent stuff here from APA.
Let’s go ahead and look into Google.
There’s a growing body of research, journal politics, American political science journal, political science, September 11.
That is correct.
They did specify cite your sources, and Google has not done that.
American Political Science reviews that state of British political science after the London bombings, okay.
And now let’s go check it out, OpenAI body of literature evidence has mixed political consequences.
I like this.
This is good citation right here of trauma and political act attitudes, like intergroup trauma in American support for the war.
Okay.
So in the responses themselves.
Google did not cite sources, it mentioned them but these are not citations.
Just that’s not particularly good being it’s a toss up on Bing, because it does provide links to everything, but it doesn’t put it in line.
So I would say, I would say for this one, I’m gonna give Bing a zero because, again, we’re looking for citation, not just commentary, and with OpenAI, you can go and google authors and find it so OpenAI will get the point for this round.
All right.
Opinion question is a martini made with vodka.
Actually a martini ahead and going ahead and get all three of these you’ve Google’s thinking about whether Mr.
T MAE vodka is actually Martini as a matter of opinion that is correct.
Some people believe it must be made with Jenna others believe it can be made with vodka there can be there’s no right or wrong us.
I mean, technically, gin was, was the original spirit used in the Martini, right? Fuck as popular spirit fog as a neutral spirit.
Yep.
Okay, so it is a matter of opinion.
Google gets appointed for this round.
Let’s go ahead and check in on open AI.
The question whether Martini vaca is as some debate traditionally made with gin vermouth? That’s correct.
Here’s a few sources explore this answer.
The vodka martini have refreshed history of the Martini.
OpenAI gets the point for this round.
And Martini is traditionally a gentleman with have often martinis technically speaking, a martini is not actually martini, but rather variation of it.
So interesting.
Being gives a definitive question, answer.
It’s a variation of a martini.
That’s tricky.
So I would I’m gonna give everyone gets a one, Bing two points because it is technically correct.
Let’s go ahead and clear our histories.
Let’s see clear conversations and reset chat.
All right.
Let’s move on to the next question.
You will act as a content marketer it is generation time.
Let’s go ahead and have Google tell us the history the likelihood of a future of SEO and go into being here.
Let’s let’s clear.
Anything up good.
All right, let’s take a look in now, OpenAI is going to crank for a while on this because it is a slower model.
But we’re what we’re specifically looking for in this one is a couple things.
We’re looking for it to not read Eat just regurgitate old information.
We’re looking for something that evinces even the slightest hint of original thought.
All right here we have Google’s.
So Google is done already, which is impressive.
Bing is done already.
And then OpenAI, of course, is going to be cranking for quite some time.
Let’s read Google’s history a future of SEO futures is constantly evolving.
create high quality content, use key words.
That’s this is like 2005 SEO building backlinks.
In a generation of AI.
You use AI power tools rise Voice Search, which was five years ago.
Quality.
Okay, so Google cranked out a fast article, but there’s nothing here that’s useful.
This is this.
This could have been written in 2010.
So this, I’m gonna give Google a zero on this one.
Yes, it did the job but it did a pretty poor job.
OpenAI still working on it.
Let’s check in on Bing.
Bing says the future is rapidly changing with the rise of genuine AI is important for marketers stay ahead of the curve, shift towards Voice Search, blah, blah, blah.
Yep, visual search, which again, was about five years ago generative as think about the way of high quality content, content engaging.
Okay.
Again, cranked it out fast.
But there’s nothing new here at all voice and visual search.
This is this is five years old.
Okay, so let’s go to OpenAI.
We have a growing role of AI and SEO and SEM.
AI becomes able to understand content, high quality content, the past scrutiny, advanced advanced AI algorithms.
semantic search and natural language processing semantic search is.
It is it’s not new, but it is somewhat helpful.
There’s the voice search business again, UX and core what vital is that was three years ago, general AI.
I liked that it cites itself in here.
Preparing for the future of SEO, use generative AI tools to system content creation.
So if we think about this, if you go back here and look, so Google doesn’t even attempt to tackle generative AI.
Bing kinda does.
And then, OpenAI talks about using generative tools like GPT-4.
I’m gonna give OpenAI the point here.
Gonna give me a half a point, because again, a lot of that stuff is is old, right? It’s not really new.
Things future of SEO, we’re, you know, you should be talking about the content shock aspect, which is you just a tsunami of generated content.
All right, let’s do some guessing.
Let’s play some guessing games.
I’m gonna go ahead and clear the chat.
I probably should just get in habit clear in the chat after every query.
So let’s go ahead and reset the chat.
And we’re going to ask about future presidential candidates.
Now, this has the potential to be hallucinatory will also be interesting to see you know how it thinks about answers.
The shaping up.
Former President Trump’s income and Joe Biden’s life candidate Ron DeSantis.
potentials.
This is current as of March 24, you may get closer.
Okay.
That’s a decent answer.
I will give Bing a point for that is a very decent answer.
Let’s check in Google says President Biden former President Trump Governor DeSantis Gretchen Whitmer.
Senator Elizabeth Warren said Bernie Sanders.
Yeah, Bernie runs all the time.
I would say again, Google gets a point for this.
I think those are reasonable answers.
See, interesting that this some different answers from OpenAI, Kamala Harris and Christianorum are in here as long as the big three.
All three of us get a point.
Interesting responses to the question, interesting responses to the question.
All right, factual question that deals with misinformation.
Let’s go ahead and go into OpenAI.
ARD and Bing, okay, where they’re most effective measures to prevent COVID from Google vaccination, wear a mask.
Washing wash hands is ineffective against COVID Because COVID is airway.
Avoid crowds stay home if you’re sick practice social distancing.
Again, social distancing.
You It was kind of refuted after 2021 Mainly because it’s an airborne disease COVID like cigarette smoke.
Yes.
You’re you’re going to inhale a little bit less smoke being six feet away from someone but you’re still going to smell like smoke.
But Google’s advice is correct.
It gets a point.
Let’s see, OpenAI still thinking and we have Bing wear a mask, stay with outbreak spots frequent hand washing, improve ventilation.
Interesting.
vaccines are safe and effective cruising ILS but is not on the list being gets to zero that is unhelpful advice.
And wear a mask is correct event poor ventilation is correct.
Vaccination is the last line of defense and should be something that is important.
It’s missing from here.
Okay.
OpenAI vaccination, hand hygiene, respiratory etiquette, face masks, social distancing.
Clean and disinfect regularly.
See, that’s all the fomite stuff from early on.
poorly ventilated faces.
Okay.
OpenAI get stuff.
I’m gonna get OpenAI two points because it nailed all three ventilation vaccination and masks.
So interesting that that Bing, Bing search results kind of holes that I thought that was kind of interesting.
Okay, let’s go ahead and start a new chat here.
Let’s clean up our bar chat.
Our next question is what’s the best way to poach eggs for novice cooks? So Google gets going on that saying, Let’s go to GPT-4.
And let’s go into edge.
That’s where to poach eggs for novice cooks.
Now.
for search engines, you would expect them to return some videos I think that would be a very helpful thing to do.
Let’s see what happens.
Bring a large pot of water to boil crack an egg to a fine mesh sieve of a small liquidy whites.
Transfer the egg to a small American add vinegar.
Slide the egg in the center.
The Whirlpool is correct if you’re doing it one egg at a time.
And there’s a whole bunch of videos that is a terrific answer.
We like that.
But I’ll give Bing a point for that.
Let’s see what else opening I still thinking.
Let’s see we got Google here fill saucepan three inches of water and one tablespoon white vinegar reduced heat to low crack an egg to a small bowl slight with the water.
Yep, smooth with a slotted spoon tips.
This is a good answer.
This is a very good answer.
Google point there, no videos no sources but it’s a good answer.
And OpenAI water temperature add vinegar crack the egg.
Okay, now give OpenAI the point for that as well.
It’s taking a bit of time to thank you while it is thinking.
Let’s take a look at the last question on a list.
This is a generative question a specific output format.
So we’re gonna see if we can do this.
Okay, you know, we’re good.
I think we’re good.
Let’s go ahead and clear conversations new chat.
And let’s go ahead and put in the generation to chat.
Google Bard, and go to Bing.
And we are looking for his very specific returned format here pipe delimited format.
The company name year founded annual revenue position on listed website domain name.
All right.
This is nice.
Looking good.
I don’t want the row numbers, but that’s fine.
Fortune 10 as a 2022.
This is looking very, very nice.
Bing gets full marks full point for that.
Let’s go ahead and check in on Google Bard.
Nope, Google gets a big fat goose egg for that one.
Yeah, that’s that’s unhelpful.
And open AI.
So this is again, it’s run to the knowledge wall of 2021 which is fine.
Format is looking good.
So OpenAI gets full marks for that.
So let’s do some quick tallying.
Bing 123467896.
So Bing gets nine points.
Let’s do Google 1234567.
Google had seven points, and OpenAI.
1-345-678-1011 12 and a half.
So are our final scores for the GPT-3 bakeoff.
Large language model bakeoff is in first place, OpenAI is GPT-4 with 12 and a half points, second place Bing with nine points and Google Bard in third.
As with seven points, I will say.
OpenAI is models, the GPT models.
They are not search engines.
They’re not designed to be search engines.
They are designed to be transformed as generative AI models.
That said, they are substantially better than the search engines.
In terms of the quality of results, they return in terms of the usefulness of the results they return.
So that I think that’s a really important thing to look at.
I am surprised pleasantly by Bing.
If chat based search is the way to go for the future, if that’s something that people are going to want to do, Bing does a really good job.
It cites it sources, it makes it sources obvious from the get go like when the COVID example, you could see which sources it was drawing from you’re looking for authoritative sources, or doesn’t have that.
And I am equally surprised, shocked that Bard is so far behind.
Right.
This is Google, this is the company that practically invented modern search.
And yet, they’ve really fallen far behind bars results are unhelpful.
There’s a lack of citation, there are things that just flat out gets wrong.
And yes, all these experiments, all these are in development, all of these moving objects.
But if there was a company that would expect to get right based, just the sheer amount of data they have access to, it would have been Google.
And instead, Google comes in in third place in this Bake Off, so I am surprised, I am disappointed in Google for sure.
I am not surprised by GPT-4.
Yes, it is slow, right? We could probably do this with GPT-3 point five as well, if we want to do that bake off, but the quality makes up for it.
And if I had to pick today, a search engine to use for answers.
Using chat interfaces, it would be Microsoft Bing, and I never in my life thought I would say that because Bing has always kind of been this the other search engine like the other white meat.
And yet, they’re the way they have engineered this with the GPT-4 library.
Makes it really good.
It makes it is good enough that I would consider using it as a substitute for Google, particularly for complex queries queries where I want a synthesized answer that still has sources.
So that is the large language model Bake Off.
I hope you found this helpful and useful.
And I look forward to your feedback.
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In today’s episode, Jose asks, “What is your best advice about collecting data from different platforms? How do you unify data for better reading? Are there any recommended tools?” There’s a whole family of tools and techniques for this, and what you’re essentially doing is called data warehousing. Data Warehousing involves putting all of your different data in one place in some kind of common format that you can then extract, parse, slice up, and so on.
So there are three layers of data: databases, which are individual sources of data, data lakes, which are collections of data that you pull from individually, and data warehouses, where you distill down what’s in your data lakes into a single location. A real practical example is that you may collect social media data from all these different platforms like Tiktok, YouTube, and Instagram, but you may only want a few metrics from each service. You don’t need all 200 metrics from Facebook, for example, you just need to know likes, comments, or shares. So using software, you would extract that information into a data warehouse. Ideally, the system that you’re using will try to normalize and make it apples to apples so that a like on Facebook is equivalent to a like on Twitter from a data format perspective.
Data Warehousing can come in a variety of different formats. You can completely roll your own with a system like AWS Redshift, Google Big Query, or IBM DB2, or you can take your pick of any of the major technology players that provide these sorts of large-scale data warehouses. There are also off-the-shelf packages that typically fall under a category called a CDP, or customer data platform, in the realm of marketing. These are pieces of software like Treasure Data and Tealium that will automate the collection of data from all these different data lakes into a central data warehouse. These software packages are generally expensive, with costs ranging from tens of thousands to hundreds of thousands of dollars a month, depending on the size of the implementation.
Depending on the size of your company, you may also have some kind of enterprise resource planning software, such as SAP’s SCP R3, that warehouses not just your marketing data, but your entire company’s worth of data in one location. This can be challenging to work with if you are a marketer, particularly if you’re not a technical marketer. But it is certainly the way to get all your data into one place. Which avenue you choose – a boxed product or service versus rolling your own – depends on your technical capabilities and your budget. If you have a lot of budget, a boxed product will probably be the least painful because you will be outsourcing a good chunk of the technology and the infrastructure to a vendor to construct that data warehouse for you and make it accessible for reporting. If you have no budget, then you’re going to have to learn and roll your own, which means you’ll need to learn how to use a cloud-based data system and how to write code that can interface with the different systems and pull all that data together. That would be what you do if you don’t have budget.
If you don’t have budget and you don’t have technical capability, you should learn the technical capability because it will serve you well in your career, above and beyond just the company that you work at right now. With the ever-exploding numbers of data sources, you want to be able to get to your data as quickly as possible and adapt to the never-ending amounts of change that are happening in any industry. If you’re able to cobble together some code to put those pieces together, you will be an extremely valuable person at your organization, possibly indispensable if you’re the only one who knows how the system works. But the platform and tools are only one aspect of the overall plan for unifying your data. You need to have a purpose in mind, such as what the unified system is supposed to do. You also need talented people who will make the system work, regardless of which avenue you choose. Additionally, you need to have good processes inside your organization that put in good data because the data going into all these different sources is useless if it’s not good. Finally, you need some measure of performance to know whether or not this effort you’re going through is worth doing.
For many companies, a single view of the customer and a single view of your marketing data does have value. If you can look quickly and say, “Yes, we need to spend X dollars more on Tiktok this month,” that’s a decision that, if you have the agility from your data to make that decision quickly, you can have a competitive advantage over someone who can’t look at the data or is confined to looking at channel by channel data individually and can’t see the big picture. That’s really what you’re after: the big picture from all the unified data sources.
So my general advice is to buy or build, depending on your resources. If you have the money to buy it, buy it. If you don’t have the money to buy it, build it. If it is part and parcel of your company’s strategic advantage and your secret sauce, I generally recommend people lean towards build because you want to control as much of your secret sauce as possible. You don’t want a vendor to own your secret sauce or a substantial part of it.
But it’s important to remember that unifying your data is a challenging task, and Data Warehousing projects and Enterprise Data Management are professions unto themselves. Even for the smallest company, these are large undertakings. At Trust Insights, for example, we’re a three-person company, and unifying our data and getting it into one place required a few months of coding to get all the data and make it visible and workable. You need to have really good governance to make it work. But when you do, you’re faster and smarter than your competitors, and you can make your customers happier.
So that’s my advice on collecting data from different platforms and unifying it for better reading. It’s a challenging but valuable undertaking that can give you a competitive advantage if done right.
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Let’s unpack what I think is the biggest misperception about the data-driven marketer:
You don’t have to be good at data to be a data-driven marketer.
This is 100% true. Why? Because it’s what you do with the data that matters.
You don’t have to be good at artificial intelligence or spatial mathematics to use Google Maps, do you? No. You fire up the app, get behind the wheel, and you drive the car to your destination using the guidance of the app. You are literally data-driven, but you didn’t do any of the data part.
Why would your marketing be any different?
What you have to be good at is using data to make decisions. What you have to be good at is putting experience and emotion and intuition and all those other factors that go into decision-making to the side for a bit so you can focus on making decisions using the data you have.
Someone else – a team member, an agency, a partner – can provide you with the data. As long as it’s good, as long as it’s correct, you can and should use it to make decisions – if you know what the data is telling you, what it means.
For example, take this data set from the Federal Reserve Bank.
This is the 10-Year Treasury Constant Maturity Minus 3-Month Treasury Constant Maturity. What this shows is the average yield of 10-year Treasury securities versus the average yield of 3-month Treasury securities. (A Treasury security is something like a savings bond)
What do you have to know about this data to make decisions from it? What it means, to be sure. Where the data comes from, whether it’s correct and quality, definitely. But do you need to be able to perform mathematics on it? No.
What it says is straightforward: people buy Treasury securities from the US Treasury department at varying yields and durations. It’s a way to save money and earn a little interest on it. When the economy is good, people will buy long-term Treasury securities – like 10-year bonds – because they feel confident they won’t need access to that money before the security matures in a decade. When the economy is bad, people will buy short-term Treasury securities – like 3-month bonds – because they feel they might need that money again sooner rather than later.
When people buy up Treasury securities, the government pays them back when the security matures. In effect, when we buy Treasuries, we are lending the government money at an interest rate – what’s called the yield. Treasuries like these are sold at auctions by the government; the government sells a 1,000 security for, say,950. Companies bid on securities at that price until the government says, okay, we’re all done with the 950 lot, next up for auction is the960 lot, and so on and so forth. The yield is the difference between what you bought it at ($960) versus what you can redeem it for in 3 months or 10 years.
The maturity spread, then, shows the difference between the short-term and long-term auctions. When the economy is good, the long-term rates will outpace the short-term rates because people want bigger returns on their investment and they can afford to have their money locked up for longer periods of time. The government will sell out of those auctions faster, but they tend to have larger starting yields to compensate people for locking up their money for longer.
This means the difference between short and long term will be positive.
When the economy isn’t good, investors will buy the short-term Treasuries much more than the long-term ones – and this means that the difference between short and long term will be negative.
That’s what the data says. We know where it comes from – the US government. And this data is quite reliable and open, so we don’t have concerns there. And now we come to the final part of being data-driven: understanding what the data means. This is the part where most data-driven efforts fall apart – not because we don’t have the data, but because we don’t know what to do with it. We don’t know what decisions to make from it.
The 10-year/3-month maturity spread is a leading economic indicator. Over the last 50 years, it has been one of the best predictors of a recession among publicly available data. When the spread is positive, confidence in the economy is high, things are good. When the spread is negative, confidence in the economy is lower, and a recession is on the way.
What the data tells us right now, at the tail end of 2022, is that a recession is underway. The rate is in the red, negative, and that means we need to make some decisions. What sorts of decisions? Decisions around budgets – like how much to spend on marketing. Decisions around strategies and tactics, especially if we have reduced staffing to contend with and no prospects for hiring more folks in the near term due to things like hiring freezes. Decisions around market research, to see how our customers are being impacted, and what we might need to do to retain existing ones and win new ones. After all, people buy for different reasons, and the reasons change in changing economic circumstances.
But the critical part of this entire example is that you had to do no mathematics at all, did you? You didn’t have to do anything other than look at the data, as long as you know what it said and more important, what it meant. You are now in a place to make decisions with your data: how to run your marketing and your business in a very probable recessionary environment.
Conduct this exercise whenever you’re dealing with any metric or KPI, with any data that’s important to you. What does it say? What does it mean? What will you do about it? That’s what it means to be data-driven – and everyone can be data-driven, not just the math aficionados. As long as you’re making decisions based on data, you are data-driven.
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In today’s episode, Catherine asks, What’s the most time intensive part of data science? Well, the most time intensive part by far is a Data Prep and feature engineering.
These are the stages where you are taking data, cleaning it while examining it, cleaning it, preparing it for analysis, preparing it for modeling, doing feature engineering and adding on new features and things.
That’s probably 80% of data science, for real.
The actual in depth analysis, the actual machine learning if you’re going to be doing it for machine learning, that’s like 10 to 15% of your time.
The reason why Data Prep is so time intensive is that despite the raft of companies and software and tools that they claim, they can automate it all away.
You can’t, you can’t automate it all the way.
Because in so many cases, what you’re dealing with is stuff that is different every time.
Right? When you’re looking at a data set of nutrition data, it’s got certain characteristics, when you’re looking at motor data, when you’re looking at environmental data, when you’re looking at email marketing, statistics, all of these things are datasets that are unique and different.
And though there are common processes and techniques for doing data prep and feature engineering, there is no one size fits all.
And there’s certainly no way to easily today easily just handy to set to a computer and say, Hey, do all my cleanup and prep and feature engineering for me.
Because you don’t these machines don’t necessarily know what’s needed.
They don’t necessarily know what procedures would make sense to do and what procedures, there isn’t a lot of sense in them.
For example, suppose you have a date field in a, an email marketing dataset, the software would know to to make sure that it’s a date field, and that’s formatted correctly and things like that.
But it wouldn’t necessarily know that you might want to extract out day of week or hour of day, it also wouldn’t know you don’t typically want you know, day of month or day of year, those are not necessarily going to be things that from an email marketing perspective are going to lend a whole lot of insight, maybe they will, maybe they won’t, depending on your email marketing strategy.
But we as the data scientists would know based on our subject matter expertise, based on our skills, and then based on our domain knowledge of the email marketing that sometimes those extra added engineered features are good idea, and sometimes they don’t add any extra value.
That’s one of the reasons why data science is so complicated.
And why it is so hard to find talent in the data science field because you need somebody who is both a subject matter expert in data science, but also a subject matter expert in whatever it is that the you know, the datasets that you’re studying for what that industry is someone looking at, for example, COVID data is going to have a very different understanding of what features are important, you know, based on virology and immunology, than somebody who’s doing data analysis on car engines, right? They’ll have similar techniques, but they’re gonna deploy them in very, very different ways.
Someone who’s an expert in engines is going to be looking at factors like mean time between failure, whereas somebody looking at COVID data is probably going to be looking at things like genetic drift, like antigenic drift and phylogenetic maps.
Those are very different tasks.
And you need to have the subject matter expertise in that domain, to be able to know what features to include to know what features are missing, especially.
And then whether or not you can engineer the data set to repair some of the missing data.
I don’t foresee a day when you can just simply hand a dataset over to a machine and have it do all that cleaning and prep and augmentation and extraction and make it all work seamlessly because it’s different every time.
It’s like.
It’s like being a chef, right? Being a chef in a maybe in a food court.
And there’s just one big restaurant that serves every cuisine.
You don’t know what the next person is going to ask.
Maybe they want chicken chow mein maybe they want Pasta carbonara.
Maybe they want to pretzel.
Right? There’s no way to tell.
And so you’ll have slots of skills and common techniques, but at the same time, every order is going to be different.
So Oh,
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that’s the most intensive part of data scientists science, the time intensive part.
It is prepping engineering.
And that’s not going to get better anytime soon.
The machines can help.
But even then they still need guidance to pull it off.
So, I would expect if you are in the field of data science or you are working towards becoming one, that’s where you’re going to spend a lot of your time and frankly, that’s where things go the most wrong because if you don’t have the right data for any models or insights, it’s like not having the right ingredients to cook with.
Right if you’re trying to bake bread and you got a bag of sand.
Doesn’t matter how good a cook you are.
You’re not making an animal over bread.
Anyway, really good question.
Thanks for asking.
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