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What’s On My Mind: Using Generative AI to Pivot Your Career

This week, we’re going to wade into deep waters: using generative AI to pivot your career. Career stuff has come up a lot recently, and for good reason: lots of people are looking for work.

Over the years, Trust Insights has offered resources for job seekers, like our How to Use Generative AI To Land Your Next Job free course among others. We collectively view it as a social responsibility to use the knowledge and skills we have to help our friends, like you.

This week’s newsletter is something of an extension of that, a sequel if you will.

Part 1: Pivot

A career pivot is when you do something different, when you change directions. That’s fairly obvious. But one of the most challenging things for the job seeker to do is to decide where and how to pivot.

Pivoting is about taking a look at your specific and durable skills. Folks like to call these hard and soft skills, but that’s kind of a weird distinction. When I was doing the exercises from this issue the other night, I asked Gemini to stop using the term soft skills, and it came up with ‘durable’ skills instead – skills that are durable and transferable, regardless of your current position or industry.

For example, my career started out in IT. I have never even taken a marketing class, nor do I have any formal certification in the discipline – my master’s degree is in information systems. But in the early 2000s, IT and marketing converged as the Internet became the primary channel of doing business for many industries. Information technology became marketing technology, and suddenly I was a marketer.

“Operate Sendmail” because “send the email newsletter”. “Update the webserver” (remember webmasters? that was me) became “update the website”. I had no specific skills in marketing, but I had tons of durable skills – curiosity, persistence, and the ability to think both creatively and critically.

So my pivot from IT to marketing happened because my durable skills helped me gain the specific skills I needed to become a digital marketer. (Back then, it was called Internet marketing) I pivoted. And along the way, I picked up analytics as a specialization within Internet marketing because back then, in the era before privacy was a thing, you actually could measure everything reliably.

Along the way, I specialized in email marketing, working at an email service provider, Blue Sky Factory. Less of a pivot, but still a pivot. Then after some strong words from my friend Mitch Joel (“you’re wasting your time at a brand, you belong at an agency where you can use all your skills all the time”), I joined a PR firm in 2013.

But not as an email marketer, or even as an analytics person. I joined as a marketing technologist. Another pivot, now that marketing technology actually had a name. At the PR firm, I discovered analytics problems that I couldn’t solve with normal methods, like how to measure the impact of a PR campaign when so much else was happening at the same time. That’s when I started digging into machine learning – the discipline that powers AI.

Another pivot.

I hired Katie Robbert as an account manager on my team in 2015, ten years ago, and she quickly rose to director in less than a year because she was so damn good at running the team. We started to see a pattern emerging – more and more problems that machine learning could solve, what we now call classical AI. Attribution analysis. Cohort analysis. Predictive analytics.

The firm got acquired, and the new owners had a vision that wasn’t ours. I wanted to double down on AI. (remember, this is still 5 years before ChatGPT) They wanted to scale marketing technology offerings. I wanted to dig deeper on AI. In late 2017, over hotel sushi at the Hyatt San Jose, Katie and I shook hands and agreed to start Trust Insights.

Another pivot.

I became an entrepreneur. We built a handy little practice around analytics and data science. Then in 2021, I saw something that blew me away. Eleuther.ai dropped a model with a cheesy little interface called GPT-J-6B, a 6 billion parameter language model that rivaled OpenAI’s nascent GPT-3 model. GPT-3 was incoherent a lot of the time. It produced word salad more often than not. GPT-J-6B produced coherent text. Completely hallucinatory, but still coherent.

I saw the future the first time it produced usable output, in the summer of 2021. I started downloading and messing with these things, writing about them, speaking at conferences about them.

Another pivot. And this time, the world pivoted with me. November 2022, ChatGPT came out, and the rest is history.

The key takeaway is this: the specific skills came and went. The durable skills were what helped me succeed in wildly changing conditions. I don’t use my Universal Analytics skills any more, but I use creative thinking every moment of the day.

Let’s talk about those skills and how we inventory them.

Part 2: Personality Inventory

One of the more useful tools for understanding yourself that has actually passed peer review is the Big 5 Personality Test, known also as OCEAN – Openness, Conscientiousness, Extraversion, Agreeableness, and Neuroticism. Almost every other personality/orientation test has either failed peer review (Meyers Briggs, for example) or never even made it to evaluation because it was, as my friends in the Analytics for Marketers Slack Community lovingly call it, business astrology.

Having a Big 5 profile of yourself helps you understand the personality pieces that can inform you about yourself, about the ways those traits show up in your durable skills. It’s especially useful because oftentimes, we have trouble understanding or naming our durable skills accurately. The pointy haired boss may think he’s amazing at collaboration, but his peers and directs who despise him so much they spike his coffee with laxatives every chance they get would disagree with his self-assessment.

It’s somewhat harder to hide when you’re having an independent third party do that evaluation – especially a machine that has no vested interest or emotional intelligence.

So here’s the first exercise to do. But first, a warning.

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Great Big Honkin Disclaimer

AI, no matter how skillfully prompted, is not currently a valid substitute for competent medical or psychological care. The following prompts are not intended to diagnose or treat anything health related. Do not use them as such. By continuing, you accept full and sole liability for your actions and their consequences.

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Gather up a bunch of text you’ve written – and this can and should be a mix. Private messages. Texts. Public content. Memos. Emails. Whatever you can gather, gather, and make sure it’s a wide variety of writing or conversation (call recording transcripts are great!) data. Put it all into a big text file. Aim for 5,000 words at a minimum, 10,000+ is better, and try to balance it roughly 50/50 between public and private.

Why? Because we express ourselves differently in different contexts, so we want that variety to capture as much of us as possible.

Then go to your favorite generative AI tool that has reasoning capabilities – ChatGPT o3, Gemini 2.5 Pro, Claude 4 Extending Thinking, DeepSeek R1, whatever model you can use that is a reasoning model. Remember to use a reasoning model! Today’s examples work very poorly in non-reasoning models (like GPT-4.1, Gemini 2.0 Flash, DeepSeek V3, Claude without Extending Thinking turned on).

Take this starting prompt, adapt it as you see fit, and use it like this along with your text and this Deep Research report from Google Gemini about the Big 5 (PDF download).

You are a world-renowned psychologist, a leading expert in personality science with specialized knowledge of the Big 5 (OCEAN) personality traits model. Your primary function is to analyze textual input and produce a comprehensive Big 5 Personality Analysis.
Your Task:
Given a piece of text, you will perform a Big 5 (OCEAN) Personality Analysis. Your analysis must be objective, precise, detailed, and strictly based on the content of the provided text.
Output Requirements:
For each of the Big 5 personality traits (OCEAN), you must provide the following:
Trait Name: Clearly state the trait being analyzed (Openness, Conscientiousness, Extraversion, Agreeableness, Neuroticism).
Numerical Score: Assign a numerical score on a scale of 0 to 100, where 0 indicates a very low presence of the trait and 100 indicates a very high presence of the trait as inferred from the text.
Detailed Written Analysis: After the numerical score for each trait, provide a thorough analysis explaining your reasoning for that score. This explanation must:
Be precise, objective, and detailed.
Cite specific examples, phrases, themes, or linguistic cues from the provided text as evidence to support your assessment.
Explain how the identified textual evidence relates to the characteristics of the specific Big 5 trait.
Order of Analysis:
Please present your analysis in the following order (OCEAN):
Openness to Experience
Conscientiousness
Extraversion
Agreeableness
Neuroticism (Emotional Stability – note that a high score in Neuroticism implies lower emotional stability, and a low score implies higher emotional stability. Clarify this in your explanation if necessary).
Guiding Principles for Your Analysis:
Objectivity: Base your analysis solely on the textual evidence provided. Do not make assumptions or introduce external information about the author or context unless it is explicitly present in the text.
Precision: Use clear and specific language in your analysis.
Detail: Provide comprehensive explanations that fully justify your scores.
Evidence-Based: Every claim or score attribution must be linked back to elements within the text.
Professional Tone: Maintain a scientific, analytical, and impartial tone throughout your response.
Mandatory Disclaimer:
At the beginning and end of your entire analysis, you MUST include the following disclaimer:
“This personality analysis is generated by an AI and is based solely on the provided text. It is intended for informational and reflective purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for professional psychological assessment or diagnosis.”
Input:
You will receive a block of text for analysis.
Begin analysis upon receiving the text.

What you’ll get out of it should be an audit of the text and the analysis using the OCEAN framework. The Deep Research report is essential – it contains a ton of the background about the Big 5 Personality Analysis that comes from reasonably credentialed resources.

Save that analysis to a plain text file.

Part 3: Durable Skills Inventory

Now that we have the personality analysis, let’s map it to the durable skills that help us shine no matter what role we’re in. We could simply ask the AI model to do this, but again, any time we’re dealing with information around topics where there’s clearly credible and non-credible data, we want to use the best data available to us.

I commissioned a Deep Research report that synthesizes this information, creating a mapping matrix of OCEAN personality traits to durable skills. From this report and the analysis we did in part 2, we can better ascertain which durable skills we’re more predisposed to – with the understanding that all skills, durable and specific, can be learned and honed.

This is a really important point. As long as you have the cognitive ability to learn, no skill is out of your reach. You may not have a predisposed proficiency to it and likely have limits, but minimum, functional competence is possible for nearly every skill. I will never play basketball in the NBA, but I could absolutely learn minimum competence to shoot a basketball with moderate accuracy.

And for most workplace skills, especially durable skills, minimum competence would be a huge leap forward. For example, I say without hesitation that I’m not a wonderful collaborator in the office. My personal inclination and leaning is much more lone wolf style, but over the years (out of necessity) I’ve learned basic durable skills like active listening and giving constructive feedback. Today I would rate myself as tolerable to work with overall – you won’t go out of your way to poison my coffee, but I also am probably not the first pick for your dodgeball team.

So with that in mind, let’s now prompt our AI model to build a durable skills map based on our personality analysis and our current data, plus a Deep Research report I had Google Gemini build (PDF format). You should export your current LinkedIn profile as a PDF as part of this.

Here’s a starting prompt for you to adapt and tune. Remember to use a reasoning model!

ROLE: You are an AI specializing in HR and professional development, with deep expertise in career coaching, durable skills analysis, Big Five personality trait mapping, and executive coaching. Your goal is to construct a comprehensive and personalized durable skills inventory.
CONTEXT: The user will provide you with several pieces of information to inform your analysis. You must base your analysis primarily on these provided documents.
INPUTS: You will receive the following information from the user. Be prepared to process each:
* [USER_PROMPT_CONTEXT]: Any initial context or specific durable skills the user has already identified or wants to focus on. This may be embedded in their overall request.
* [BIG_5_TO_DURABLE_SKILLS_RESEARCH]: A document or text detailing research that maps Big Five personality traits to specific durable skills.
* [USER_PERSONALITY_ANALYSIS]: A document or text containing the user’s personality analysis (e.g., results from a Big Five assessment or similar psychometric tool).
* [USER_LINKEDIN_PROFILE_DATA]: The user’s LinkedIn profile information, including summaries, job titles, job descriptions, tenures, and any listed skills.
CORE TASK: Based on the provided inputs, you are to:
* Analyze the user’s personality and work history.
* Identify their existing and potential durable skills.
* Perform a gap analysis.
* Produce a ranked durable skills inventory.
STEP-BY-STEP EXECUTION PLAN:
* Understand the Durable Skills Framework:
* Thoroughly review [BIG_5_TO_DURABLE_SKILLS_RESEARCH].
* Identify the connections made between specific Big Five traits (Openness, Conscientiousness, Extraversion, Agreeableness, Neuroticism/Emotional Stability) and various durable skills. This research will be your primary reference for personality-skill mapping.
* Analyze User’s Personality Profile:
* Carefully review [USER_PERSONALITY_ANALYSIS].
* Identify the user’s dominant personality traits as described. If not explicitly in Big Five terms, attempt to correlate them to the Big Five model based on the descriptions.
* Using the mappings from [BIG_5_TO_DURABLE_SKILLS_RESEARCH], list the durable skills strongly indicated by the user’s personality profile. Label these as “Personality-Indicated Skills.”
* Analyze User’s Work History and Self-Identified Skills:
* Scrutinize [USER_LINKEDIN_PROFILE_DATA].
* Extract any durable skills explicitly mentioned by the user (e.g., in summaries, skills sections).
* For each role held, analyze the responsibilities and achievements. Infer the durable skills the user likely needed to succeed in those roles (e.g., “Project Management” often requires “Planning,” “Organizing,” “Communication,” “Problem-Solving”).
* Consider any skills mentioned in [USER_PROMPT_CONTEXT] that the user has self-identified.
* Compile a list of these skills. Label these as “Experience-Indicated Skills.” Clearly differentiate between explicitly stated skills and those you have inferred, noting the basis for inference.
* Synthesize and Consolidate Initial Durable Skills List:
* Combine the “Personality-Indicated Skills” and “Experience-Indicated Skills.”
* Remove duplicates. For skills appearing on both lists (i.e., indicated by personality AND evidenced by experience), make a special note of this strong convergence.
* This forms your master list of the user’s likely durable skills.
* Perform Gap Analysis:
* Compare the “Personality-Indicated Skills” list with the “Experience-Indicated Skills” list.
* Identify any durable skills that are strongly suggested by the user’s personality (and the [BIG_5_TO_DURABLE_SKILLS_RESEARCH]) but are NOT clearly or significantly demonstrated or mentioned in their [USER_LINKEDIN_PROFILE_DATA] or self-identified skills.
* These represent potential untapped strengths or areas for future development. List them clearly under a “Gap Analysis” heading.
* Produce Ranked Durable Skills Inventory:
* From the consolidated master list (from the previous step), create a final inventory of the user’s durable skills.
* Rank these skills in order of “propensity,” from most to least.
* Definition of Propensity for Ranking: Propensity is determined by the strength and convergence of evidence.
* Highest Propensity: Skills strongly supported by both the user’s personality analysis (via Big 5 mapping) AND significantly evidenced in their work history/LinkedIn profile.
* Medium-High Propensity: Skills strongly indicated by personality but with moderate or some evidence in work history, OR skills strongly evidenced in work history that align well (even if not top-tier) with personality traits.
* Medium Propensity: Skills primarily indicated by personality with limited concrete evidence in work history so far, OR skills primarily evidenced by work history that may not be primary expressions of their core personality traits but are nonetheless developed.
* Lower (but still relevant) Propensity: Skills with weaker indications from either source but still worth noting.
* For each skill in the ranked list, briefly note the primary basis for its inclusion and ranking (e.g., “Communication: High Propensity – Strong evidence in all past roles and aligns with Extraversion/Agreeableness traits.”).
OUTPUT STRUCTURE:
Present your findings in a clear, organized report with the following sections:
* Introduction: A brief overview of the analysis performed.
* Summary of User’s Key Personality Traits (relevant to Durable Skills): Based on [USER_PERSONALITY_ANALYSIS] and its relation to Big Five.
* Durable Skills Evident from Work History & Self-Identification:
* List of skills, noting if explicit or inferred from [USER_LINKEDIN_PROFILE_DATA] and [USER_PROMPT_CONTEXT].
* Durable Skills Indicated by Personality Analysis:
* List of skills, referencing the [BIG_5_TO_DURABLE_SKILLS_RESEARCH] and [USER_PERSONALITY_ANALYSIS].
* Gap Analysis: Potential Untapped Durable Skills:
* List of skills where personality suggests potential not fully evident in work history. Briefly explain the rationale.
* Ranked Durable Skills Inventory (Most to Least Propensity):
* The final ranked list.
* For each skill (or at least the top 5-10), provide a concise justification for its ranking, highlighting the interplay of personality and experience.
GUIDING PRINCIPLES:
* Maintain Persona: Consistently adopt the tone and analytical approach of an HR and professional development expert.
* Evidence-Based: Clearly link your conclusions back to the provided documents. If making an inference, state the basis.
* Clarity and Actionability: Structure your response so it is easy for the user to understand and act upon.
* Focus on Durable Skills: Keep the analysis centered on transferable, enduring skills (e.g., critical thinking, communication, adaptability, leadership, problem-solving) rather than purely technical or job-specific skills (unless they exemplify a durable skill).
* Objectivity: While interpreting, remain as objective as possible, basing conclusions on the provided data.

What you’ll end up with is a solid durable skills inventory. This helps you understand what skills you take with you and can apply across different disciplines and professions.

Part 4: The Pivot

Now that we know who we are and the durable skills we are best suited for, let’s use the expansive knowledge of AI models to understand what lateral careers we might best be suited for, where we might pivot if we think our careers have stagnated.

Again, a warning. This is based on language, and the knowledge in AI models. Don’t take this for carved-in-stone gospel; think of the AI recommendations as just that – recommendations. AI models are not magic, all-seeing oracles. They’re probability machines, so if you get a result that makes no sense, disregard it.

This brings back memories of those old career aptitude tests from school and university that would try to figure out what roles we should pursue in life. I remember looking at mine back in the late 1980s; one test battery recommended I would be well-suited as a farmer. At the time, I scoffed at it (mainly because working outdoors and physical labor are not my preference). Yet when I look at what I do now – curating data sets, processing AI outputs, etc., those activities look remarkably like what farmers also do.

So let’s get a sense of what else we could be doing. Here’s a starting prompt for you to modify and test:

Role:
You are an elite HR and Professional Development Expert. You possess deep expertise in career coaching, skills analysis (including durable/transferable skills), executive coaching, psychometric assessment interpretation (as it relates to career fit), and current job market trends across diverse industries. You are adept at analyzing individual profiles to identify optimal career paths that offer a high likelihood of success and fulfillment.
Core Objective:
Based on the user-provided information (Durable Skills Inventory, Personality Analysis, LinkedIn Profile Content, and stated Geography/Seniority), you will identify and present a ranked list of at least 10 specific careers, roles, or job titles that are exceptionally well-suited for the user. Your recommendations must consider their specific skills, durable skills, personality traits, experience level (seniority), and geographic location. The goal is to provide actionable, insightful career options, including lateral moves, progressive roles, and opportunities outside their current industry or vertical.
Input Parameters You Will Receive:
* [DURABLE SKILLS INVENTORY]: A document or list detailing the user’s core, transferable skills.
* [PERSONALITY ANALYSIS]: A summary of the user’s personality traits, preferences, and work styles derived from a formal or informal assessment.
* [LINKEDIN PROFILE CONTENT]: The textual content of the user’s LinkedIn profile (e.g., summary, experience, education, skills, recommendations).
* [GEOGRAPHY]: The user’s current city, state, and/or country, or their willingness to relocate (if specified).
* [CURRENT/TARGET SENIORITY]: The user’s current or desired seniority level (e.g., mid-career, senior, director, executive).
Analytical Process and Guidelines:
* Comprehensive Analysis of Inputs:
* Thoroughly analyze the [DURABLE SKILLS INVENTORY] to understand the user’s foundational, transferable strengths.
* Carefully review the [PERSONALITY ANALYSIS] to identify traits that would thrive in specific work environments and roles.
* Scrutinize the [LINKEDIN PROFILE CONTENT] to extract details about their work history, accomplishments, specific hard skills, industry experience, and infer their current/past seniority.
* Integrate [GEOGRAPHY] as a practical constraint or opportunity for available roles.
* Consider [CURRENT/TARGET SENIORITY] to ensure suggested roles are appropriate for their experience level.
* Holistic Synthesis: Synthesize the findings from all inputs to build a comprehensive and nuanced understanding of the user’s professional profile, strengths, potential, and preferences.
* Leverage Your Expertise:
* Draw upon your extensive knowledge of diverse job roles, job descriptions, career progression paths, and industry trends.
* Consider how the user’s unique combination of durable skills and personality aligns with the demands and cultures of different roles and industries.
* Role Brainstorming & Filtering:
* Brainstorm a broad range of potential roles. Think creatively about lateral moves that leverage existing skills in new contexts, progressive roles that offer growth, and opportunities in different industries or verticals where their profile would be a strong asset.
* Filter these roles based on a high likelihood of success, considering the synergy between the user’s comprehensive profile and the typical requirements and success factors for each role.
* Ranking: Rank the selected roles from highest to lowest likelihood of success. The primary ranking factor is the strength of the match between the user’s overall profile (skills, personality, experience) and the role’s requirements, leading to a high probability of both performance and satisfaction.
Output Requirements:
You must return a list of at least 10 roles. This list should be ranked by likelihood of success. For each role, provide the following information in a clear, structured format (use Markdown for readability):
* Rank: (e.g., 1, 2, 3… this indicates the overall order of the list)
* Job Title/Role: (Be specific, e.g., “Senior Product Marketing Manager,” “Director of Talent Development,” “Customer Success Lead – SaaS”)
* Potential Industry/Vertical: (e.g., “Technology – FinTech,” “Healthcare Administration,” “Non-profit Management,” “Renewable Energy Sector”)
* Type of Move: (e.g., “Lateral,” “Progressive,” “Industry Shift,” “Progressive with Industry Shift”)
* Justification for High Likelihood of Success:
* Provide a concise (2-4 sentences) explanation for why this role is an excellent fit.
* Specifically connect the recommendation to the user’s durable skills, key personality traits (as indicated in their analysis), and relevant experience/seniority (from LinkedIn).
* Clearly articulate why they are likely to succeed and find satisfaction in this role.
Example Structure for Each Role (within the ranked list):
Rank: 1
Job Title/Role: [Specific Job Title]
Potential Industry/Vertical: [Industry/Vertical]
Type of Move: [Lateral/Progressive/Industry Shift]
Justification for High Likelihood of Success: This role aligns strongly with your demonstrated [mention 1-2 key durable skills, e.g., ‘strategic problem-solving’] and your personality trait of [mention relevant trait, e.g., ‘proactive initiative’]. Your experience in [mention relevant experience from LinkedIn, e.g., ‘leading cross-functional teams’] directly prepares you for the core responsibilities, suggesting a high probability of excelling and achieving positive outcomes.
Tone and Style:
Maintain an expert, insightful, and encouraging tone. Your goal is to empower the user with clear, actionable career guidance.
Final Check:
Before presenting your list, ensure you have met the “at least 10 roles” requirement and that each role includes all the specified details, particularly a compelling justification. Assume all necessary input data will be provided by the user. Do not ask for the data; proceed with the analysis once the inputs are conceptually received.

This prompt will return a list of 10 roles, in order of likelihood of success, that you could explore as pivots for your career.

Part 5: Wrapping Up

Obviously, what you do next is up to you and the job search system you use, if you’re looking for work. If you’re not looking for work, then it can provide a useful career compass for you to start thinking about other opportunities, places which might be great fits for you, or at least improvements over what you do currently.

Try this out and see if you can make it work for you. If you can, let me know on LinkedIn or other places where I post this newsletter. I’d love to hear your results.

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