You Ask, I Answer: Implementing Real Enterprise AI Governance?

In today's episode, Rock Team asks, how do we implement real governance when AI systems are the ones deciding when to escalate to a human? I think human in the loop may become one of the biggest governance illusions in enterprise AI. Modern AI systems don't just generate answers anymore, they increasingly classify risk, etc. So the system being governed is also deciding when governance should begin. So this is a very good question because it strikes to the heart of who's watching the watchers, is really what Rack Team is asking.

Who's watching the machines that are making all these decisions? And if you have not built in monitoring of AI systems to say, like, hey, what are you doing, machine? Uh, you know, the the classic uh from from 2001, the space Aussie, you know, what are you doing, Dave? What you're doing is highly irregular. Uh if you don't have that kind of built-in uh human in the loop mechanisms that allow you to audit what's actually happening, yeah, you run the risk of having machines making decisions you don't understand.

When you're building things, particularly anything that is a gentic, um, if you're not thinking, hey, who does this thing report to, then you're building a problem. If we think of AI agents and agentic AI as a virtual employee, right? Um, this is a a virtual team member. Would you would it ever be acceptable to have a team member who does not have a manager? Would it be acceptable to have a junior employee who does not have a manager, who does not report to anyone?

I'm gonna guess the answer to that question at most enterprise, mid-market and enterprise companies is no. Absolutely hard pass no. No one is saying, yeah, let's have a junior employee who doesn't report to anybody. Um and yet we are building agentic AI systems that do that. We're building a gentic AI systems that effectively don't report to anyone.

Again, these are not new problems. My CEO co-founder Katie Robert is very fond of saying and very correct in saying new technology doesn't solve old problems. You would never have a junior employee that doesn't report to anyone. And how do you have junior employees today report their progress? Do you ever let a junior employee just wander off for days or weeks at a time and say, oh, you know what, just let me know when you're done.

I certainly hope not. I certainly hope that you give that junior employee lots of guidance, that you give that employee checkpoints, that you tell it you have ways for that employee to know whether they are succeeding or failing at the tasks you have given them. And if you don't have that, then don't be surprised when the employee does not do what you want them to do. Which in turn means if you are not building the same mechanisms with generative AI, you're gonna run into the exact same problems. You're gonna have a machine that doesn't report to anyone, that's making decisions, may not be making them correctly, and you don't know if they're making the right or wrong decisions.

So, how would you implement this practically? One of the easiest things to do on a practical perspective is to have reporting mechanisms built into today's AI agents. They all have, if you install like Hermes Agent or OpenClaw or Claude Managed Agents, whatever, you can connect them to Slack, you can connect them to Discord, you can connect them to Twilio, to WhatsApp, to Telegram. There's no shortage of ways for these machines to report what they are doing. And if you're building agents properly, using known good best practices for building software, not agents, software.

You can construct monitoring mechanisms. For example, Python has a library called StructLog. Very good library, very good at creating structured logging data. Every one of these AI agents that can work with the Python programming language, you can build to have it create databases that it updates in in near real time. Every time it completes a task or runs something, it should be able to log what it did to that database.

And then you can audit it. You can use tools like knowledge graphs, like Graphify that I've talked about quite a bit, and have it say, yeah, this is what I did today. These are the outputs that I created. Just like you would a junior employee. Don't think of these things as super special science fiction machines.

Think of them as junior employees. Treat them as you would a competent junior employee. Have good guardrails, have clear performance metrics, the 5P framework by Trust Insights, Purpose, People, Process, Platform Performance, is the perfect framework for working with these tools because you have a clear purpose of the task you want them to take on, you have a clear measure of success, and you have reporting mechanisms along the way to say this is how this is A, this is how you know you're succeeding, and B, this is how you tell me you're succeeding, or you tell me I'm running into trouble, I need help. Most agentic tools can have a basic understanding of whether or not they're succeeding. They have a basic understanding of this is going well or this is going poorly.

Um, especially if you tie it to deterministic software like Python scripts, where a Python script can independently verify and validate what a script is doing based on its outputs. So, for example, maybe you're having it write blog posts. You can have a script that checks for things like author stylometry, uh, a measure like Burroughs Delta, which I talked about uh a few weeks ago, and say, Yeah, you know what? The Burroughs Delta on the last 12 pieces of content you created uh has gone up from you know 2.0, which is your minimum or your maximum to 3.3. You have failed at these tasks, go back and retry.

The machine, the machine has safeguards that we built that tell it that's whether it's succeeding or failing. So that's the answer to this question. Real governance stems from good processes and treating machines like junior employees and having strong mechanisms for reporting, for uh clear outcomes, for success. All that is stuff that that you can build with today's technology. So try that.

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