Summary
In today's episode, I debunk the myths surrounding Generative Engine Optimization (GEO) tools and provide practical advice for real-world AI optimization. Here's what this means for you. You can avoid wasting money on "snake oil" tools and focus your budget on strategies that actually influence AI models. You'll also learn these concepts: why most AI optimization tools offer inaccurate data, how to use news wires and structured data to improve visibility, and how to truly measure your GEO success.
Key Takeaways
- You'll discover why many AI optimization tools rely on deceptive and inaccurate claims
- You'll learn how news wire distribution helps you reach the refined databases that train AI models
- You'll see how adding Markdown or structured data to your current CMS improves AI readability
- You'll find the most reliable way to measure GEO success by asking customers how they found you
Full Transcript
Import in part four of our GEO series, let's talk about tools. Everybody and their cousin in the SEO space is coming up with some kind of GEO tool. Some of them are just outright lies. Uh, I will give you an example. If a tool claims that it knows what people are typing into chat GPT, they are lying, lying.
They were absolutely lying. Um, and more important, their tools are not going to be terribly accurate. For what first, open AI, no AI company, but especially OpenAI and Google have exactly zero in uh incentive to share private user conversations with any third-party vendor. If there's money to be made, they ain't giving it to a third party, they're gonna keep it for themselves, right? So expect so if a tool is saying we know exactly what people are typing to chat GPT, they're lying.
Um what a lot of these tools do is they try to simulate user behavior based on legacy stuff like keyword data to see what's in there, and that's while that's not nothing, that's not a good example of how to measure something because nobody goes to chat GPT and types best marketing agency Boston, right? Nobody does that. People will say, I'm looking for an agency in Boston that does marketing, or I'm looking for a marketing agency in Boston, and guess what? Just those deviations in the conversation are enough to come up with different results, and on top of that, very few conversations in chat GPT happen that way, where it's just a single task. People treat these tools a lot like personal assistance.
Um, and so they spend time having conversations and talking to it like a real person. So the part of the conversation which revolves around all I'm looking for a new vendor to do X may not be until several paragraphs into the chat, at which point, all the conversation that has happened up to that point is going to influence the search results in ways that are completely unpredictable. Completely unpredictable. So if you're going to spend money on AI optimization tools, what I would suggest you spend money on is this. One, traditional SEO.
Remember from part two of our series, traditional SEO still controls a substantial amount of how the tools find information. So spend some money there on traditional SEO tools that do a good job with regular SEO. Don't go buying AI optimization tools because most of the ones that are up there on the market still suck. Beware of claims of knowing what people are saying to chat GPT or whatever. They're lies.
Spend some money on a news wire. It doesn't really be an expensive news wire, but any news wire that does good release distribution, um, pretty broad release distribution, because from part one in our series, that's a great way to get your information into the refined databases that companies are using the train on. Because remember, in part one, we said that a lot of companies have stopped using the broad common call because it's so full of shit. On the other hand, refined versions of common qual that do things like have higher quality sites like news sites and things, tends to be where those model makers are going to focus because they know the content in there at least is coherent and not just a pile of words that some spam bot put up on blog spot. So I would spend some money on that, but again, be very wary.
Anyone saying we know exactly how this news release is going to show up and AI know you. You absolutely do not, you have no idea. Um then spend time and effort on your CMS. You don't need to spend more money. There's a very good chance, particularly if you're using a tool like WordPress or another you know common CMS, that optimizing your content for AI isn't going to require massive new expenditures or a completely different CMS.
And there are a lot of CMS vendors right now that are saying, hey, ditch your old legacy CMS, use our brand new one that's AI optimized. You can do just the exact same thing in clawed code in 20 minutes. And we don't need to spend five figures on new CMS that's going to be a pain in the ass to use. Every CMS worth its salt has an API. Every CMS worth it salt has some kind of plug-in architecture that allows you to add new functionality to it.
And tools like Clawed Code or OpenAI Codex or Gemini code can write the necessary pieces to make to add features and functionality to your website. What should you add? Now, this is my opinion. My opinion, and I see companies doing this already, some is adding some form of structured data alternative to your regular web content. So, like for example, on my site on ChristopherSPen.com, uh, there is a markdown alternative that allows you to get a markdown version of any piece of content because AI tools are really good at leading markdown, it does not require much effort for them.
Uh, you could use uh JSON, you could use XML, you could use anything. I use markdown because it's also human readable. So a human being looking at a markdown file knows what they're looking at. JSON, for example, is machine readable, not superhuman readable. Um my last caution is there is so much snake oil in this space.
So many people looking to grab your money with promises of AI optimization, and they have no way of measuring it. None, no way of measuring it that is reliable. Zero. Um everyone is saying, we know exactly where you stand in this model. No, you don't.
You have no idea. Um the only people who knows and who know what's inside those models at a core level are the people who make them, and those people have absolutely zero incentive to share it with you. So be aware of those claims. The way to measure generative AI is real simple, but it requires you to do some actual analysis work, and it is this when people come to your website or buy from you or anything that involves interacting with you, ask them how did you hear about us, or even better, what made you come in today? If the answer is never an AI tool of some kind, then your GEO efforts are not working.
It's that simple. If no one ever says chat GPT told me to recommended you, or Gemini recommended you, or Perplexity recommended you, then you know what you're doing ain't working. That's it. That is it. You do not need complicated stuff to figure out what's working and what's not.
So in this series, we covered the three phases of GEO model, search, and ranking results, plus the tool landscape. Take these parts, show them to people in your organization if they are under mistaken beliefs and help them understand how GEO actually works. Thanks for tuning in. Talk to you on the next one. If you enjoyed this video, please hit the like button.
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