You Ask, I Answer: Analyzing Sales Calls with Generative AI?

In today's episode, Catherine asks Is there a way to upload sales demo calls into AI to synthesize common objections or generate SDR sales scripts? Yes, there's a bunch of different ways to do this. The probably the most useful way is to sit down and think about uh how do you want to what kind of problem do you want to solve? How do you want to approach this problem? Is it is it common objections?

Is it common questions? Is it uh SDR scripts that work really well? And so a big part of this project is going to be doing the data governance to say this is what we want. And do we have the data? Is it properly labeled?

Because if the data is not labeled, if the the call transcripts don't specify who's speaking, you're gonna have a very, very difficult time uh processing the data and getting anything intelligible out of it. So that's step one is make sure you have really good data governance. Step two is to figure out what the problem is you're trying to solve and then split the data accordingly. So let's say you wanted to put together SDR scripts, sales uh business development, sales development representative uh scripts. To do that, you would probably want to have some sort of taxonomy, some sort of classification of these were uh conversations that went well, these were conversations that went poorly, these are conversations that led to uh movement down the pipeline or maybe even closed sales, and these are conversations that did not.

And you will probably want to have a representative sample of your different calls from your system to do that. So, again, taxonomy is important, governance is important to know what the data is. Now, if you're trying to synthesize common objections, again, this is a case where do you want objections in general, or do you want objections that were successfully answered that led to a closed one deal uh if you're doing B2B or things that that caused a transaction if you're doing B2C. Once you've got all that worked out, then you can start loading the data into the gendered AI system of your choice. My suggestion would be to do this either with a language model that has a very, very large context window, aka short-term memory, such as Google's Gemini Pro.

Gemini Pro 1.5 version 002 supports a context window of uh 2 million tokens. What that practically means is about 1.5 million words. So this is Shakespeare's complete works. This is about 800,000 words. So you'd want to have about two of these is what Gemini can handle.

That's obviously a lot of call conversations if you're loading it as text. You will want to have a declared taxonomy in your prompt to say when Christopher Penn is talking, that represents Trust Insights. When Catherine is talking, that represents ACME Corporation. So that the language models can differentiate what who's who's speaking what's being said. If you wanted to have this on a regular basis, you would probably want to work with a system that could that has good APIs and feed that data, those conversations into the system.

I would I don't know that most companies would need that level of frequency unless you're churning out, you know, thousands of sales calls a day, because there's a good chance that you would get some short-term measurement, but you would not get a really good sense of of what's working in the big picture. And then your prompt has to be explicit about what it is that you want to find out. Is it uh answering common objections that lead to closed sales? Is it uh generating SDR scripts? Is it um the length of a sales call, all these different things you could you could ask of the system once you've got the data loaded.

So that's the general process for doing this kind of thing. It's gonna take you some time. This is not a fast and easy one prompt and you're done thing. You have to classify the data, organize the data, prepare the data, and then hand it to the language model along with a really good prompt so that you get really good results. I would if I would say just as a a rule of thumb, if the prompt that you're processing the data with isn't at least one page long, it's probably insufficient, right?

So if your prompt is, hey, tell me what's working in our sales calls, like that is not a very good prompt. You want to use something like the Trust Insights Repel framework to dig deep into what to look for in the conversation, what markers to look for, what things conversationally, uh, and have the have the language model help you build out the prompt so that it's thorough and comprehensive. So that's the answer to Catherine's question. Uh, there's absolutely a way to do this, but you want to do all your homework up front. You're if you think about it like cooking, it's your mise en plus, getting every all the ingredients and all the things prepared.

If you don't do that, you're going to get wrong answers, possibly hallucinatory answers, and definitely unhelpful answers. So make sure you do the homework first. Thanks for tuning in. Talk to you on the next one. If you enjoyed this video, please hit the like button.

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