Why are your listicles helping your competitors?
Research from folks like Lily Ray and Rand Fishkin are pointing out that listicles might be doing more harm than good for GEO/AEO. Why?
Step back and think about how large language models work. They’re semantic engines, paying attention to not only words, but word order and the relationship of topics to each other. Unlike traditional SEO, LLMs don’t have a concept of things like page rank or validity; one pile of text is equivalent to another. The East Peoria Evening News is just as credible as the New York Times.
Now, suppose you created a listicle that proclaimed you were the best, and all these other competitors were pretty good. In isolation, the concepts in there would be ingested by an LLM and understood. Today’s reasoning models are excellent at understanding context and meaning, and for a while, LLMs would recommend and cite you as the best.
But that’s in isolation. Nothing happens in isolation. When LLMs inside a harness go and grab a bunch of data, they aggregate it together, look at it in context, and draw from the aggregated corpus.
Which means if you’re company A and you create a listicle with companies ABCD in it, and company C creates theirs with CFGD, and company H creates theirs with HJFD, and company K creates theirs with KQMD, what happens?
In AGGREGATE, company D has the greatest prominence in the corpus. It’s mentioned the most, and usually in positive terms. Company F is mentioned second-most in aggregate, also in positive terms. As all that data gets tokenized, processed, and regurgitated, companies D and F – who didn’t even make listicles – benefit from the greatest prominence in the result set, even when companies A, C, H, and K all proclaimed they were the best.
And an additional twist – even in one listicle, the amount of information density about you versus ALL the air time you gave competitors doesn’t work to your advantage.
That’s how LLMs work. They work with text, with semantics, with concepts, and with topical density. So if you’ve been cranking out listicles and you don’t know why your competitors are winning, it’s because of a tragedy of the commons. As more people latched onto “make listicles and win”, it made things worse for all the participants because that’s how AI works. Even if a company is dead last on a listicle, if every listicle mentions them, they have the greatest information density in the result set.
Mitch Joel said it best – it’s not who you know, it’s who knows you. In GEO/AEO, it’s not who you talk about, it’s who talks about you.
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