Summary
In today's episode, I explain how to use AI to accurately tabulate data from unstructured PDF documents through a multi-stage process. Here's what this means for you. You can transform messy, complex contractual data into reliable tables without suffering from the common mathematical errors inherent in large language models. You'll also learn these concepts: the three-step workflow of extraction, organization, and tabulation, why generative AI struggles with math, and how to use test time compute by having the AI write code for deterministic results.
Key Takeaways
- You'll learn how to avoid mathematical errors by breaking tasks into extraction, organization, and tabulation phases
- You'll discover why generative AI relies on prediction instead of symbolic logic when processing math
- You'll see how to use test time compute by having the AI write code for accurate calculations
Full Transcript
In today's episode, Jonathan asks, can AI accurately tabulate data like contracts from unstructured PDF solicitation summary? That's an alcohol. Yes, it can, but it has to happen in multiple stages. If you try to go straight from a pile of PDFs directly into some kind of summarization, tabulation, you're going to have a bad time because AI is not particularly good at math to begin with. And asking it to do multiple steps of math all at once is just a bad idea.
So the way you would do this is you would start by having it do the extraction phase first. You'd say, all right, I want you to extract the raw data from this set of PDFs and put it in some kind of data frame format, some kind of rectangular data. It can be a markdown table, it can be JSON would probably be the safest format to do in because JSON is a language that it speaks natively. And then once it has the raw data, then you can have it start doing things like ordering the data. So you'd want to say, I want it, you know, if you're trying to compare RFP bids, you would have it tabulate or you'd have it arrange all the data in the order that makes the most sense for the task you're trying to do.
After that, you'll then do what's what would make the most sense to be the safest and the least error prone would be what's called test time tabulation, which is a mouthful to say, or test time compute. What this essentially means is you don't ask a language model to do math. They can't do math. They're incapable of it because math and prediction are different things. Mathematics works by what's called symbolic or formal language, where you have things like addition, 29 plus 30 equals 59.
Generative AI doesn't work that way. Generative AI works on prediction. So if I say 29 plus 30 and you look at those two numbers, the next logical thing in that sequence is 31. So a language model natively will say 29 plus 30 equals 31. That's factually completely wrong, but that's the way a language model will see the world and see the math.
So what you would do instead is you would say from this JSON array that you've made of the data, you would then go on to have it build a calculator or something in JavaScript in the canvas. So tools like Chat GPT, uh Gemini, and Claude all have canvases or essentially like miniature documents. They can write code in those documents. So instead of doing the tabulation itself, it would write code that would then, when the page loads in the canvas, do the tabulation. And that's how you'll get a reliable um uh tabulation of that contractual data.
Again, don't try to do it uh from the the raw documents themselves. It will it will just blow up on you. Instead, take the time to go through the three-step process extraction, ordering uh you know, classification and organization, and then tabulation. That's how you're going to get success with that particular task. Um, good question, it's an important question, and the test time compute part's really important because most people don't know to ask for that.
Most people don't know to ask how should I tabule, how should I do this kind of mathematics where I want a deterministic answer from a probabilistic tool? That's how you do it. You have a right code that can then do the math after the AI has done its work. So good question. Thanks for asking.
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