You Ask, I Answer: AI Generated Code and Ethics?

In today's episode, BP asks, is it ethical to use AI generated code trained on open source to write closed source code? Arguing that companies are laundering open source licenses to create proprietary products. No. Here's the thing you cannot copyright ideas. You cannot copyright ideas.

And that means that from an AI perspective, if a company says, you know, hey, we want to we want to make a product that's just like this, um, but not use you know their their IP, but we want to borrow all their ideas, that's legal. In most places, that is legal. You can't copyright ideas any more than you can copyright, you know, individual music notes. You can copyright a composition, you you can't even copyright, for example, a chord progression. I mean, it's it's not allowed under copyright law in most places.

So if a company is using AI to essentially clone somebody else's software, is that ethical, even if it was trained on that source software? The short answer is as long as you're not using the original code, if you're not using the original creations, then it's then it is legal. Now, there is a difference between legal and ethical. Uh legal means uh that there is a basis for which someone to pursue remedies in court. And by the way, this is where I put in my obligatory disclaimer I am not a lawyer, I cannot give legal advice.

Please contact a lawyer in your distriction for advice specific to your situation. So I've said that a lot. Um ethics is an entirely different animal, even though you would think it wouldn't be. Um, it's a different animal because what is ethical depends on your beliefs and your morals, and as is pretty clear, uh, particularly in this day and age, uh, morality and law do not always dine at the same table. So, is it legal for a company to copycat even an open source project as long as they're not using that project's code?

Yes. Here's the trade-off, and this is the part that the commercial companies are finding is equally challenging. It is just as legal for an open source developer to take the idea of a commercial product and make it their own, make an open source, right? You see a CRM, you're like, oh, I really like that CRM, but I can't afford 10 gazillion dollars a month. I'm gonna have clogged code whip up my own.

Totally legal. Totally illegal because you can't copyright the idea of a CRM. You can't copyright the idea even of a feature. You can copyright its implementation. Copyright is the tangible fixed expression of an idea.

That's the way it's written in in law. So I can copyright my code that expresses the idea in a fixed tangible manner. I cannot copyright the idea. Um, but even there, a patent for something that is generic like a CRM, ain't gonna happen. So as long as you're not, you know, taking screenshots and making an exact copycat of uh somebody's product, you're probably in the clear even there.

Again, I am not a lawyer, please contact the lawyer for advice specific to your situation. The closed source commercial software community is in much greater danger from AI than the open source community is. How do we make our software into a subscription so that we're getting money out of the user all the time? Um guess what? When the use is like, you know what, maybe I don't want to be paying 2995 a month for every single application on my computer.

I know that's Silicon Valley's dream, but for the average user, that's that's not so much of a dream. Um that's when AI becomes the existential risk for them because if you are even moderately skilled at prompting a tool like Claude Code, even if you don't know a lick of code itself, but you understand coding language, or you understand um the software development process, you can make copycat pretty easily. During the holiday break uh at the end of 2025, I took a good hard look at my WordPress splot. I have a bunch of plugins that were paid, I had a theme that was paid, I had all this stuff that was subscriptions and things, and I'm like, do I need to be paying this money? Or can I sit down with Claude Code and just end up my voice recorder and just express all the frustrations that I have when everything is long on my website?

And the answer was yes, I could do that. And then Claude and I built a new theme for me that does exactly what I want the way I want it that functions in a very specific way, and um built me a replacement plugin that replaces the five other plugins I was paying for with something that I own and control. Now I have to maintain it, I have to support it, right? So it's not flea, and I still pay for Claude, right? So that's not free either, but your payments, the monthly payments for SAS stuff, those go away.

It's a one time cost. Once you get the thing working, as long as you're not tinkering with it and breaking it every other day, it is a one-con cost to make that thing, and then it is yours, and that is the existential um threat that AI poses to see software company into software in general. So, is it ethical for a company to to violate someone else's license? No, of course not. Uh, is it legal?

It depends on how they do it. And is the open source community in danger from closed work companies doing this? Nothing as much as the other way around. That's gonna do for today's episode. Thanks for tuning in.

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