Meta LLama 4 Maverick Hot Take

So there's a new model in town. This is Meta's Llama 4. And we're gonna put it to the test and see how it does on a more challenging prompt, just to get a sense of how it compares. So to do this, we're gonna get out our my personal favorite, which is a prompt about trying to understand how to structure an egg substitute. We're gonna go into IBM Watson X, going to go into foundation models here, and we're gonna scroll down to find Llama 4.

There's two versions. There is uh Llama Scout, which is a 17 billion parameter uh model with 16 experts, and then a 17 billion parameter with 128 experts. So we're gonna go with Llama 4 Maverick. IBM Watson, of course, is the best provider for Llama models if you want to ensure that your data and your environment is safe and secure. There's more governance than you can throw a stick at, uh, and of course, all the the best practices that IBM is so famously known for.

There are other providers you can host with too, but um, generally speaking, I recommend people use IBM Watson X if they want a safe and secure environment to run these these foundation models in. So let's put in our prompt here, which is this super long prompt about food substitution. Let's go ahead and get that rolling, and then I'm gonna put it into Google's Gemini, their latest model. We'll put it into the new version of DeepSeek, which I should uh remind you is profoundly insecure. So never ever use Deep Seek the web service uh for anything private.

Uh, but it it did just get a nice upgrade, and let's put it into the free version of Chat GPT, which uses the 4.0 model, which also just got an upgrade. Uh let's see how Llama is 4 is done. We have here an understanding of the contents of an egg, and then it looks through and says what are the different pieces. We have provide a similar texture to egg. Experiment one, experiment two, experiment three.

It kind of thought through things, which is what it was instructed to do, but it didn't really do a great job with this. So this is Llama 4 Maverick. It is it's smart. Not really. It came up with uh basically a 2-1 uh ratio for pea protein and tapioca flour that followed by Xanthem gum uh and some umami flavor and scores about an 80 there.

Let's take a look at Gemini. Gemini came up with about the the same analysis there. Um tapioca flower talks through in much greater detail each of the pieces, building the protein structure, the texture, the moisture, um, and it goes through uh you can see here it's got there's one recipe, there's instructions, and it scores that came up with about a 70. Um interestingly, you can see in this uh analysis, it did not publicly do the tests. Let's see if it did the tests in its thinking, uh, which is inherent to it.

Yep, there's the tests themselves. Hypothesis, experiment two, experiment three, experiment four. So it went through and did the tests in the background because um this is a is a reasoning model and you can't turn it off. Let's see what Deep Seek came up with, which is a non-reasoning model, it's a much much closer apples to apples. The analysis of what's in an egg, the ingredient analysis, talking through the different parts, the flavorance, thought experiment one, thought experiment two, thought experiment three, thought experiment four, pea protein, tapioca mushroom, and column uh colon amok, and the final recipe.

30, so three to one there for P protein and Tapioca Flower. Gemini's recipe came up with three to one. Uh Llama came up with two to one on that. Let's see what chat GPT had to say. Step one, understanding the composition of a real egg, uh texture when cooked, assessing the available ingredients.

Good. Thought experiments, experiment one, uh, which did one to one, one to one there, experiment three, one to one, experiment four, one to one. Final recipe says decision uh model three is experiment three is is optimal. And it came up with a one to one chickpea and protein flour isolate pea protein flour isolate. Now the reason this test is this this particular prompt I like is because there is a right and wrong answer.

There are products like just egg, for example, that are reasonably decent um uh substitutes. With this particular recipe, you want a higher uh amount of the protein isolate compared to the other ingredients to mimic the actual structure of an egg. So a two to one, Llama 4 did a better job than chat GPT, which is actually kind of surprising. Uh it did a worse job than Gemini, which of course is a state of the art model and not a real fair comparison because it's a reasoning model, and it did a worse job than Deep Seek V3 with the non reasoning version of Deepseek. So, in terms of how we would want to think about getting our uh choosing a model that we'd want to host.

These these llama models are big. They're not as big disk-wise as Deep Seek is, but if you've got the hardware and you're gonna be self-hosting, it's not as good. It's not as good as the Deep Seek V3 model. With the caveat that for there are a lot of people who mistakenly believe that if they anything Deep Seek is inherently bad, it's not. Their web services and their mobile app have no privacy whatsoever.

But the model itself is fine. Llama's model so far, I mean it's capable, it got a better answer than ChatGPT did. Um it is open weights, which means you can download it and run it on your own hardware. And uh the open weights community is of course modifying it heavily to make sure that it is uh it fits individual people's needs. I would say uh let's wait for Behemoth to see which which is the third model in the in the new family series and see how it performs uh right now.

Maverick has kind of a weird place, so it's got like a hundred and something billion parameters, of which 17 billion are active at any given time. That's a mixture of experts model. Um and that makes it very efficient to run uh for a model of its size, but it may not make it more capable because I don't know that they did the same optimizations like GRPO that DeepSeq did on their models. So if you have to use an open weights model that is not uh made over outside the USA, Llama 4 seems pretty decent. It seems pretty decent.

I would wait for Behemoth to see what that weighs in at and whether and how usable it is. And uh if you'd prefer not to use meta products, probably then don't download this model. And of course, if you want to host it somewhere, you can host it on your own hardware. You can use tools like IBM Watson X to host it, and uh, or you can use any, you know, there's other providers out there too. That's gonna do it for this episode.

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