You Ask, I Answer: Generative AI and Synthetic Customer Town Halls?

In today's episode, Todd asks, how can AI be used to create a synthetic customer town hall? So this is a really interesting question because a town hall tends to be kind of a raucous uh event, right? You get a bunch of people in a room and uh put someone on stage and have the whole crowd ask questions. To do this well, you would probably want to approach it in a couple different ways. First, uh you would want to make sure that you have an ideal customer profile.

So an ideal customer profile is an aggregation of real customer data that you have assembled that allows you to infer a lot of characteristics about the uh your customers. Um, this is actually something that uh at Trust Insights we offer as a service. So building this. So if you go to uh trustinsights.ai slash ideal customer profile, you'll be able to find out how to how we do that and even see a sample. Once you've got the ideal customer profile, you then need to make character cards.

So you will take the ideal customer profile and split it into three or four or five different people. And you want to give specific characteristics to each of the people uh that define kind of the conversation you want to have. So you might have, you know, uh Lena the Loyalist, a brand loyalist, loves your company, loves everything you do. You might have uh Carlos the Critic, right? Carlos the Critic is is just uh doesn't like you.

He he he tries to poke holes in everything. Um you might have Charlie the conspiracy nut, right? Who uh comes with all sorts of crazy things. You want to build out three or four or five personas from the ideal customer profile. So the ideal customer profile is the base for then creating the individual characters.

Then, once you have the characters in their character cards, you want to use a piece of software that is designed for having these kinds of conversations. The AI software that is probably best suited for this task is a piece of software called Silly Tavern. Silly Tavern uh allows you to input these character cards that you build and then connect it to the AI engine of your choice. It could be something local, it could be something uh like a chat GPT's uh underlying model, and have actual conversations where each individual takes turns talking, and you as the moderator would ask questions to the crowd and so on and so forth. I will caution you that setting up Silly Tavern.

Silly Tavern is free, it's free of cost, it's open source software, so and it's very, very good at what it does. But the the barrier to entry is the the technical hurdles are not insignificant if you've never worked with open source software before, from downloading it uh to uh to to running um the the software and things in uh in a container environment, etc. There's there's some work to be done there, however, it is free, and then it's based on whatever um whatever language model you you choose to use. For the language model, you'll want to choose a model that is fluent in conversation. So, and and you'll have that uh be uh also based on what your budget is.

So, if you have no budget at all, you're probably gonna use an open model, a model like Mistral Nemo or Mistral Small, or maybe Llama 3.2, uh, the 12 billion parameter version. Those are all reasonable models. If you do have budget, Google's Gemini, Anthropex Claude, uh, OpenAI's uh GPT-4.0, all of those are great models for having in-depth conversations. The reason I say you have to start with the ICP is that you want the character cards to be really rich and really detailed, have a lot of specifics. You know, uh, Lena the the loyalist works as a CMO at a Fortune 500 company, and her budget is this, and her, you know, the number of employees she has is this, and so on and so forth.

Having your ICP established first allows you to create those individual characters much, much faster than trying to create each character uh by themselves. So you just have to get the personality traits, and then your the generative AI tool of your choice can split that into the different character cards. So that's how you would go about having that, and then you run the software and you have a conversation. You have a conversation, a focus group with these people, these synthetic people, and you bring up the issues that you want to ask. Remember to give the model very clear and big and bold instructions about how each character behaves and how each character is different than the others.

Because what you don't want is five identical personalities, all you know, saying, uh, oh, you know, we love your company and we love your products and services. You want some antagonists in there. You want some people who are grumpy, you want some people who uh are skeptical so that you have a a more realistic synthetic environment, if that makes sense. You could take that even to uh a pretty far extreme if you were doing something like crisis communications and red team practicing, where you might program all of the synthetic customers to be out actively hostile to you, actively uh mean spirited or crazy conspiracy theorists, theorists, whatever the case may be, and then have like your PR team or your or your corporate communications team interact in that synthetic town hall environment where they're just getting beaten up by by these synthetic customers. It's a great practice situation.

So that's the process. Get Silly Tavern, choose an LLM, build, get your ICP, build your character cards from it, and then have the conversation. Thanks for tuning in. I'll talk to you on the next one. If you enjoyed this video, please hit the like button.

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