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  • You Ask, I Answer: Generative AI and Public Relations, Part 4 of 5

    You Ask, I Answer: Generative AI and Public Relations, Part 4 of 5

    In part four of my five-part interview with Stephanie Moore, you’ll gain practical insights into ensuring the responsible and ethical use of AI in your public relations work. Discover the importance of fostering a company culture that prioritizes ethics and learn effective strategies for disclosing AI use to clients without fear of negative repercussions. We’ll also explore how to train your team effectively, emphasizing the value of comprehensive prompt engineering and a continuous learning approach. Tune in to learn how to confidently integrate AI into your PR workflow and elevate your team’s capabilities.

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    Christopher Penn: In this episode—this is part four of five of an interview I did with Stephanie Moore of Kent State University about generative AI in public relations.

    Stephanie Moore: Makes sense. Kind of in that vein then, what best practices do you follow to ensure the responsible and ethical use of AI? And then maybe you can talk a little bit more about how you disclose the use of AI with your clients. I know you do that because I actually see in your newsletter, you have disclaimers.

    Christopher Penn: Yes. So, “responsible use of AI” is kind of a meaningless fluff term. “Ethical use of AI,” again, that goes to—if you want AI to be used ethically, make sure that ethical people are using it. So, try to avoid hiring jerks.

    But also, your corporate culture has to be one in which you prioritize high-quality results.

    Stephanie Moore: Right.

    Christopher Penn: The ugly truth is, most agencies do not. Most agencies prioritize meeting client deadlines, getting things done as efficiently as they can because you’re working 80 hours for a 40-hour paycheck, and client demands are never-ending. And clients have—and, to some degree, understandably—they don’t care what your priorities are. They think that they are the number-one priority all the time.

    And so, if you operate in a “my-hair-is-always-on-fire” methodology, then you will make ethically questionable choices. And so, part of ethics is having leadership and client policies and things that say, “We believe in ethics. We believe in doing as little harm as possible. We believe in things like the truth, and we will enforce that with our clients.” And you empower a team member to say to the client, “Nope, you’re not going to get that today, and you’re probably not going to get it tomorrow either. Sorry.”

    Or you say, “Oh, you can have that today, but I’m going to add a $40,000 charge on your bill. Do you want to proceed? Yes or no?” And that typically helps to—do some of that.

    So, that’s how you ensure ethical anything: is giving people the ability to say no to things. If people don’t feel like they can say no, they’re not going to make ethical choices.

    In terms of the disclosure of ethics, of AI—so, there’s two things to keep in mind here. Number one, in some parts of the world, it’s required now, like the EU. You must disclose the use of AI.

    Number two, in a study from MIT Sloan last fall, they did a test. They showed content to three groups of people. The first group was just told, “You’re going to rate this content.” They were not told who made it. The second group of people was told, “You’re going to be rating this content. Some of it was made by AI. Some of it was not. You will rate it, but you know that some of it’s machine-made.” The third group of people was told, “You’re going to rate this content. Some of it’s made by AI. Some of it’s not. Each piece of content will contain a disclosure of who made it.”

    When consumers consumed the content unlabeled, they preferred AI content over human-led content. When they were told that humans were involved, they boosted human scores, but they did not penalize AI.

    And so, one of the key messages from that study is it’s okay to disclose that you’re using AI. You will not incur reputational harm from disclosing that something was machine-made.

    How you do it is pretty simple: like, “Hey, this piece here was made by AI.” And it’s important to disclose not just that you use AI but what part of the content was made by AI, or how it was used because we go back to copyright. If I have an AI-generated image on my blog post, but I wrote the human blog post, and I just say “I used AI,” the logical assumption would be that the entire post is made by AI, and therefore someone else can copy it because it’s in the public domain. And then you have to go through a whole lawsuit of trying to enforce your copyright.

    If you disclose, “The header image was made by AI, but I wrote this blog post,” you are reasserting your copyright over the portions that are human-led. And therefore, in that disclosure, if someone then copies your blog post, you retain your rights, and you can go sue them for infringing on your copyrights.

    So, disclosure is just as much about protecting you as it is helping the end consumer.

    Stephanie Moore: Great. That’s great advice. Okay. All right. Moving on. Let’s talk about some pedagogical approaches in terms of teaching AI. So, how do you train your team about how to use AI for strategies and tactics?

    Christopher Penn: The biggest thing we do is we have a shared prompt library. And we, basically, you know—it’s, obviously, very, very proprietary—but we have, essentially, a code database because prompts are code. They’re just code written in plain language. And people can pick them up, adjust them, tune them to their specific use cases, or generate new ones.

    We also teach people our methodologies. They’re on our website. You can download the PDFs for free of the basic methodology. And then there are advanced methodologies that we, obviously, keep to ourselves. But, say, “Here’s how you develop this set of outcomes based on what you wanted to do.”

    A big part of it is helping people understand the principles behind how these machines work and the structure of getting to the output you want. And my co-founder and CEO, Katie Robbert, talks about this a lot: really skillful prompting and use of AI looks an awful lot like good management of people. If you are good at giving direction and delegating and giving measurable outcomes, you will be good at prompting. You just treat it like a junior employee, and you work with it in exactly the same way.

    If you’re a bad manager of people, you’re also going to be bad at AI because you’re going to get frustrated. You’re going to give it incredibly short directions. To give you a sense, a prompt in generative AI today, in Google’s Gemini, it can be as long as 2 million tokens. Two million tokens is 1.5 million words. That is two copies of Shakespeare. Two of these can go in a prompt.

    So, these people sharing their, “My ultimate ChatGPT prompt,” that’s a paragraph long—like, no. That’s like saying, “Here’s my secret cookbook, and every recipe is one paragraph.” Yeah, you’re not cooking anything with that except your shoe leather. Whereas, if you look at a proper recipe in a cookbook, it’s at least a page, if not two pages, long.

    That’s a good benchmark for how long your prompts should be. And we tell people as part of training, if—

    Christopher Penn: —your prompts—it depends on the task—but, generally speaking, your prompts should be at least a couple of pages long. Most of my day-to-day prompts that I use are four to six pages long.

    Stephanie Moore: Great. So that’s—it reminds me of the “garbage in, garbage out,” right? More context, the better. So, um, any specific challenges that you have with people learning about AI use—

    Christopher Penn: —within our organization, it’s—it’s helping people focus and not get overwhelmed because there’s so many tools, toys and tools and gadgets and things that you can play with and stuff like that. That’s a big part, in our organization. Generally, when working and training others—because I do a lot of keynotes, I do a lot of workshops and things—is getting people to think like programmers. Getting them to think in the way that—you know—”how do you skillfully give instructions?” can be a very, very challenging thing to do. Also, getting—

    Christopher Penn: —people to overcome their resistance to trying the technology because they have, in many cases, a preformed opinion of the technology, good or bad. And if they’ve had any experience, it’s been novice-level experience, where they have not seen the use cases that make them go, “Holy crap, I want that.”

    I’ll give you an example. I was working in the PR department of one of my clients, and they’re like, “Oh, yeah, we’ve used AI a little bit, but it didn’t do such a great job.” I said, “Okay, well, let me show you this.” I—we took a blog post and fed it into a very long, programmatic prompt. And it said, “Okay, you’re going to come up with six pitch ideas for local news outlets.” And it gave a list of the news outlets and the coverage and the types of things they wanted. And it generated some great pitch ideas, like, “This is really incredible.” Like, their eyes were open, and they said, “I understand the technology because I could see the benefit.”

    I’ll give you another example. I was going to pitch this one reporter with—relatively recent. And I said, “I want to pitch this reporter.” It was to query something that they won’t have to work very hard with. But I want—

    Christopher Penn: —to, obviously, say the things I want. So, I grabbed the reporter’s last 20 articles they wrote about, and I told the generative model, “Learn this reporter’s writing style down to the letter.” And it said, “Here’s my—here’s my pitch. Rewrite my pitch in the reporter’s writing style as if the reporter wrote in it,” reformatted and stuff like that. And I said, “Here, there you go.” And the poor—is like, “This is great. I don’t have to do any editing.” Like, “No, you don’t, because the model did it for you.”

    Stephanie Moore: Wow, that’s brilliant. These are great ideas, too, for the classroom. So, thank you. All right, so I’m kind of moving on then from learning. How do you assess the effectiveness of using these tools in meeting communications goals?

    Christopher Penn: What are the goals? That’s right. Save money, make money. If you do one of those three things, you’re doing a great job.

    Stephanie Moore: Okay. And you kind of already shared examples of that. How about assessing your team’s understanding or proficiency in using AI for strategies and tactics?

    Christopher Penn: We don’t have a formal process for that. We have, on the team, as overused a term as it is, we have a continuous learning process. You know, every time someone on the team is like, “How do I do this?” we’ll talk it through and say, “Okay, here’s how you do it.” And then if the person has a good prompt or they have, “Hey, like, this prompt didn’t work to what I thought it would do,” and we troubleshoot it. We troubleshoot, you know, live, or in team meetings. We have multiple get-togethers throughout the week with folks to say, like, “How are you—you know—how are you getting on? What are you stuck on? What things do you need some additional assistance on?”

    A really good example that is, we do a lot of—you know, as everyone does—proposals and scopes of work. We have a standard proposal template. We have a standard master services agreement. And so, one of the things that I showed our sales team how to do is, like, “Here’s the call transcript from your last input call, how—here’s—you tell the model, ‘Here’s the scope template, here’s the MSA, here’s the call transcript, write scope, but,’ and—you know—there’s a list of, like, 20 rules, ‘these are the rules for this scope.’” And proposal and scope writing went from taking six to eight hours to, like, 15 minutes—15 minutes for them. From the time a sales call is—input call is done to the time the proposal is going out the door is so much shorter now. It’s great.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Generative AI and Public Relations, Part 3 of 5

    You Ask, I Answer: Generative AI and Public Relations, Part 3 of 5

    In today’s episode, we tackle the challenges and ethical dilemmas of integrating AI into public relations in part three of my five-part interview with Stephanie Moore. You’ll discover the critical importance of understanding how AI works, its limitations, and how to mitigate potential issues like hallucinations. We’ll delve into the complex world of AI ethics, exploring the nuances of legal considerations, deontology, and consequentialism, and how these concepts apply to the responsible use of AI in PR. Watch now to gain a nuanced perspective on navigating the ethical landscape of AI in the world of public relations!

    You Ask, I Answer: Generative AI and Public Relations, Part 3 of 5

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    Christopher Penn: In today’s episode—this is part three of five of an interview I did with Stephanie Moore of Kent State University about generative AI in public relations.

    Stephanie Moore: Oh, that’s great. Great examples. Okay, good. All right. So, we talked about the benefits. Now, let’s go on to the challenges and limitations. So, what are the main challenges faced by PR professionals, communications professionals, when integrating AI into practice?

    Christopher Penn: Knowing how to use the thing. Language models are good at language. Ergo, they should be handed the language tasks.

    Non-language tasks should not be handed to language models, like math. They’re not particularly good at math—and neither are PR people—but language models, in particular, they can’t count, right? Because that’s not the way the architecture under the hood works. And a lot of people—this is not just PR people, but a lot of people—do not understand the mechanics of how these, these tools actually work under the hood. And, therefore, they kind of assume that either they’re—they’re—they’re people, on the one hand, say, “It’s just autocomplete,” which is not true. Or, on the other hand, they say, “It’s mad—it’s magic,” which is also not true.

    That—that is the primary limitation and challenge that everybody—including PR professionals—faces with AI: not knowing how the technology works, not knowing what its limitations are, not knowing what a hallucination is, and how you reduce the likelihood of that happening, or which tools you use.

    There’s a great tool from Google called NotebookLM that is as close to zero hallucination as you can get because it will only read the data you provide it. So, it doesn’t know a thing. You give it data, and you say, “Tell me what’s in here.”

    So, not to get too political, but there’s this one document that people have been talking about in the US presidential election that is put out by one of these parties. It’s a 900-page document. I wanted to see what is being said in this document from the source itself, not relying on existing coverage and other people’s opinions. So, I put it in NotebookLM, and I asked it a series of questions. And I said, “What does this document say about this?” And it spits back, “On this page and this citation, right here, is what it says.” And I look at it, I go, “Wow, people weren’t—weren’t lying, like this thing is scary as hell.” But it returned truthful, cited, grounded data.

    So that’s—you know—another aspect of this there. And there are, of course, you know—one of the big issues that PR firms, particularly, need to be thinking about is, from a legal perspective, when a machine creates something, it does not have copyright. This is true in all but five countries on the planet.

    There was a case in the United States called Naruto v. Slater, in which a chimpanzee took a selfie. And the photographer went to court—it was a court case against PETA—and the court ruled, “Well, the chimp took the photo, not you. Therefore, the chimp did the work. Therefore, the chimp would technically hold the copyright, but chimps can’t hold copyright. Therefore, the photo is in the public domain because there is no copyright.”

    That ruling has been extended to anything machine-created, which is good, and it should stay that way. But knowing that means that if you’re publishing something on behalf of a client and you’ve used machines to generate it fully—meaning you didn’t derive it from an existing work—then there is no copyright on that. And if your agency claw—if your agency contract has a line in it saying you assign copyright to the client, you are technically in breach of contract because you can’t assign copyright to something that is copyrightable.

    Stephanie Moore: That is so important. Okay, good. So, we talked a little bit about the legal concerns. What are some—what are some key ethical concerns related to using AI?

    Christopher Penn: What do you define as ethics?

    Stephanie Moore: That’s a great question. Well, I suppose you can look at the codes of ethics within the field. You talked a little bit about billing, you know, in terms of—there, I’m sure that there are some ethical implications associated with that and how you bill clients if—if you use a tool such as this and then take the work and pass it off on your—as your own. I mean, those are ethical implications. So, I see a lot of different ethical concerns.

    Christopher Penn: Those are not AI ethics, though. Those are human ethics. Those are human—those are human failings. Like, if you’re lying, you’re lying. A machine can help you lie better, but you’re still lying. There are three areas here, right? So, there’s legal, right? You’re—what you’re required to do by law. In the EU, for example, they just passed the EU AI Act, which, if you’re familiar with GDPR, is probably going to be the gold standard for AI legislation around the world. There’s a bunch of provisions in that, but you have to comply with the law. There’s—there’s no getting around that.

    In ethics itself, there’s two branches of ethics, right? There’s deontology and consequentialism. Deontology says ethics is the rules of the—rules of the—rules are inherently good. If you follow the rules, you are good. If you don’t follow the rules, you are bad. Consequentialism says the rules vary based on the situation. What matters is the outcome. If you’re doing more harm than good, you’re bad. If you’re doing more good than harm, you’re good. And so, these are the two major branches.

    In AI, when it comes to the use of AI itself, all the tech companies, by default, have had to go consequentialist: let’s avoid doing harm. Partly because you can’t anticipate every possible situation, but also because deontology is inherently based in moral code.

    Christopher Penn: And so, if you are a Jew, you have a certain moral code. If you’re a Muslim, you have a certain moral code. If you’re a Buddhist, you have a certain moral code. They’re all different. Which one’s right? We’ve been fighting wars for centuries—millennia—about who’s right, and there’s no answer. So, you can’t build a general-purpose AI tool on deontological technological principles. It has to be consequentialist.

    And so, when it comes to AI ethics, then it is “how can—how can we help these models?” This is something that’s baked into every single—while be helpful, harmless, and truthful. Now, the companies, when they build these tools, they heavily weighted towards harmless because that’s what you can get sued for. Like, “Oh, this tool told me how to kill myself.” Like, “Okay, let’s—say it doesn’t—we’re gonna say it won’t allow you to do that.” So, it will sacrifice helpful, and it will sacrifice truthful to be harmless. If harmless is off the table, it will prioritize helpful over truthful. That’s how you get hallucinations.

    Hallucinations are, essentially, when—if you think about the models, knowledge is a library. Some models are really big, really big libraries; some models are really small libraries. And the model tries to go into the library and pull a book off the shelf that answers your question—wants to be helpful—but it may not have the exact book you’re looking for. So, you say, “I want The Joy of Cooking.” The model goes into the library, says, “Don’t see that. I’ll grab the closest one here. This is The Joy of Sex. That’s what you wanted, right?” Like, “No, they’re not the same at all.” “Well, it’s close. It’s close.” That’s how hallucinations happen.

    And so, helpful, harmless, truthful is a general good rubric for consequentialism, but it has tradeoffs. And those tradeoffs are it’s going to be harmless first, it’s going to be helpful next, and it’ll be truthful last.

    That, obviously, has bigger implications on things like the media landscape because “truthful,” depending on your political persuasion, may or may not be really important, right? Depending on whether you get paid as a journalist on page views and clicks. We have a capitalist ecosystem that prioritizes performance. And so, as a journalist, you will say things that may—depending on your publication and your own personal ethics—may or may not be true, just so that you can get a paycheck. Again, these are not AI problems. These are human problems.

    However, AI is an amplifier. This is—I’m going to paraphrase from Captain America—it takes the good and makes it great. It takes the bad and makes it worse. It makes everything more of itself. It’s like salt, right? You put it on a food, makes it taste more like the food. And as a result, if you are—if you—if AI is in the hands of someone who is ethically problematic, it’s going to make them worse.

    Stephanie Moore: It makes sense.

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  • Mind Readings: Events That Don’t Pay Speakers

    Mind Readings: Events That Don't Pay Speakers

    In today’s episode, I’m going on a rant about events that don’t pay their speakers. You’ll discover the hidden costs of not compensating speakers and how it ultimately impacts the quality of the event for attendees and sponsors alike. I’ll also share my perspective on the value that paid speakers bring to an event, and why it’s a worthwhile investment. If you’re an event organizer, or thinking about speaking at events, this episode is a must-watch.

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    Christopher Penn: In today’s episode, a bit of a rant. I was talking with an event recently that was interested in having me speak, which I appreciate. By the way, if you would like me to speak at your events, let me know.

    After a bit of back and forth, the event came back and said, “Well, we really don’t pay speakers. But the exposure is great.” The snarky response that I did not say out loud was, “Well, people die of exposure.”

    Then I went to check the event’s registration page. The early bird ticket was 4,000 a person. The sponsorships for the little ten-by-ten booth on the expo floor,25,000 to start. I’m pretty sure this event — which, they said 5,000 people attend — I’m pretty sure at a $4,000 ticket, you can pay speakers. You choose not to.

    You know what? That’s your right. That’s your right as an event coordinator, event professional. If you, as a company that owns an event, you don’t want to pay speakers, you can do that. You can run an event, not pay speakers. Plenty of places do. But as with all things in life, you get what you pay for.

    Better speakers cost money for a reason. They have more knowledge, they’re more entertaining, they’re better communicators, the quality of their presentations is better. And if you choose not to make that investment in your event, again, that’s your choice. But there are consequences to that choice.

    If you don’t pay speakers — assuming it’s not like a community event of some kind — then those speakers have to get value for their time and effort somewhere else somehow else. How are they going to do that?

    Most commonly, they’re going to give you a hard sales pitch from the stage. They’re going to say, “Hey, I’m Christopher Penn from Trust Insights, and today, I’m going to sell you my AI for Marketers course. So let’s talk in the next 45 minutes about why you should buy my course.” And everyone in the audience is like, “Oh, I hate these talks.”

    No one likes being sold from the stage, but if you don’t pay compensation and money, the speaker’s got to get money somewhere else to make it worth their time. Or you’re going to get people who are speakers who are not as experienced as speakers, and don’t command fees. That’s not necessarily a bad thing. There are plenty of people who are just getting started out in their speaking career and will speak just for the experience, just for the practice. And your event becomes the practice event for them to eventually ladder up.

    That may be okay because everyone’s got to start somewhere, and you may find some hidden gems. But the challenge with hidden gems is there’s an awful lot of rocks that are not gems. And if people come to the event with the expectation that they’re getting gems, and they end up with a pile of rocks, they’ll be less happy with it.

    Speakers also provide audience, they help put butts in seats. There’s three sources of revenues, three pillars of an event: there’s speaker, sponsors, attendees. So attendees pay 40 to 60% of the bill, usually, for an event, sponsors pay the rest, and then the speakers are the ones that attract attendees because people want to hear that person speak. And in return, the attendees attract the sponsors, because the sponsors are like, “Wow, you’ve got 500, 700, 5,000, 10,000, people who have the demographics and the firmographics that is the kind of audience we want to advertise to, the kind of audience we want to be in front of.”

    And so there’s this sort of virtuous circle, if you will, between the speakers, the attendees, and the sponsors. If you don’t pay the speakers, they — and you don’t get the brand-name speakers — you don’t draw as many attendees. And that then means you can’t command as much money from sponsors. That’s the events business has been, that’s the way the events business has been forever.

    Here’s the challenge about that: there’s so many events people can go to, so many, and more, and more all the time. If the big names are not at your event, people will go to the events where they are, if they want to see that person. Prior to the pandemic, that was fine, like, “Okay, well, everyone has their own audience.”

    After the pandemic, some things happened with travel budgets and professional development budgets to the point where some prospective attendees from the companies they’re at, they say, “I can go to one event this year, which one am I going to go to?” Are they going to go — they’re going to go to the event where they think they’re going to learn something. And their heuristic, their proxy for that is, “Who’s got the biggest names?”

    That’s one of the reasons why events pay, to have someone like Barack Obama on stage, because it’s the — the name is going to put butts in seats, and that will then help you sell more sponsorships. The best events invest in the audience by proxy, invest in the best because they can afford it, who make it easy for attendees and stakeholders to say, “I want to go to that event, because I see Katie Robbert speaking at that event. I need to go see what she has to say about change management because we are screwed in our current change management process.”

    That is our must-attend event, we have to go see her. And for an event to nab her, they’ve got to — they’ve got to pay her.

    So no surprise, you get what you pay for. And if you want to attract more and better audiences, pay for better speakers. That’s what it boils down to.

    I also fully acknowledge that this piece is very self-interested, because obviously, I get paid to speak places and things. So but I do want to remind folks, there is a logic to it. It’s not just because speakers want to get paid. I mean, of course they want to get paid for their own, for our own benefit, but there’s a rationale behind it that’s more than just, “Hey, pay me for showing up.”

    That’s good for today’s episode. Thanks for tuning in, I’ll talk to you soon. If you enjoyed this video, please hit the like button. Subscribe to my channel if you haven’t already, and if you want to know when new videos are available, hit the bell button to be notified as soon as new content is live.


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  • Mind Readings: AGI Part 4: The Peril of AGI – Unintended Consequences and Risks

    Mind Readings: AGI Part 4: The Peril of AGI - Unintended Consequences and Risks

    In today’s episode, we’re shifting gears to address the potential downsides of AGI, moving beyond science fiction tropes to focus on the real-world risks. You’ll discover the social and economic challenges AGI presents, such as job displacement and widening income inequality. You’ll learn why these issues demand immediate attention and what steps we can take to mitigate negative consequences. Tune in to understand the potential perils of AGI and become part of the solution!

    Mind Readings: AGI Part 4: The Peril of AGI – Unintended Consequences and Risks

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    Christopher Penn: All right, let’s continue our five-part series on artificial general intelligence. This is part four: the perils of artificial general intelligence, unintended consequences, and risks.

    Let’s recap real quick. General intelligence, artificial or not, is the ability to address a problem, without having experience in it, to solve or start solving it with no background with it—we haven’t been trained to do it.

    You and I have this ability. Many animals have this ability, and machines—we’re trying to get them to that ability. There are five levels of AI, from narrow use, to more broad use within a domain, to collaborative use (where the AI is semi-autonomous and doing things), to expert super intelligence (where it can… it can exceed human abilities for a given task), to fully autonomous, kind of self-directed—”does its own thing”. That’s sort of the pinnacle of artificial general intelligence.

    AI in general, and AGI in specific, have some interesting perils. A lot of people have sort of latched onto the existential perils—or, like I call them, the “Skynet and Terminator” perils, like, “Oh, the machine becomes sentient and self-aware, and kills us all.”

    It’s not that that can’t happen. I mean, if you think about it, if you gave a machine—absent other guidelines—you gave a machine and said, “Optimize for the maximum biodiversity and overall health of planet Earth, of the ecosystem you’re in,” rationally, logically, scientifically, you would look at the earth and all the different complex systems on it and go, “Wow, humans kind of suck. Time to get rid of you.”

    That would be the logical thing to do because humans are most of the problem on the planet. If you gave an artificial intelligence a very broad mandate to say, “Optimize for maximum biodiversity and overall long-term health,” it might say, “Yeah, yeah, those humans, they got to go.”

    That is the least of our problems.

    Could it happen? Yes, if you have a machine that’s sufficiently… sufficiently sophisticated, and is not air-gapped (which means it’s directly connected to the internet and stuff), you, you theoretically could have a Skynet/Terminator scenario. It’s unlikely, at least in the near term.

    What is a lot more likely is machines becoming really good at lots of general tasks. What does that mean? It means things like job displacement.

    We’ve been saying for a while that AI is not going to take your job—a person who’s skilled with AI will take your job. That is true, but as generative AI continues to accelerate, and we start seeing a path towards general intelligence, that statement becomes less and less true. There are jobs now that can be done by a machine, entirely, soup to nuts.

    Give you an example: I worked at a PR firm, and the most junior person on staff, the account coordinator on this one team—this is now, granted, this was about 10 years ago—this person was copying and pasting results from Google into a spreadsheet. That was their job, 40 hours a week; that and taking notes in meetings, and writing up the meeting notes, and sending it to the client. I can do the meeting notes part, no problem. I can do the copy-paste from Google, no problem. So that job goes away.

    That’s a kind of… That was a trade-off, because, on the one hand, that person no longer has employment, because you don’t need people doing those tasks. On the other hand, that’s kind of a soul-crushing job, so it might not be the worst thing for it to go away.

    But, as we work up that ladder toward general intelligence, job displacement increases for existing jobs. Now, one of the flip sides to this is that there will be entirely new jobs we don’t know about yet. We can’t see, we have no idea what they will look like.

    We’re starting to see… Christopher Penn: …that now. A friend who has a PhD in England—they have a job, they have a job writing content… for AI. They write content to train AI. That’s what they do. They get paid, like, $80,000 a year to do it; their content never sees the light of day, no human sees it. It’s just being built—they’re just being a trainer of machines. That job did not exist three years ago. Brand new job. There are going to be lots and lots of jobs that we don’t have any idea what they are yet.

    They’re going to—and we talked about this recently on the x-factors video—there’ll be jobs that we have a sense of where they’re going to go, based on other macro trends.

    But job displacement, as we work up the ladder, will increase. It will not be overnight. It’s not going to be, you wake up one day, and no one has jobs. It will be a slow erosion of today’s jobs, and the challenge for us as a society will be, “Can we create new jobs at the same pace we are eroding away the old jobs,” so that we don’t have structural unemployment. That’s a big problem.

    The second big problem on our way towards general intelligence is economic inequality. This is a big one. The more sophisticated and skilled AI gets towards AGI, the more you have income inequality, because you are now no longer paying humans wages, you’re now essentially having machines take over more and more labor. As that happens, people who use that output pay the owner of the machine. That money goes up to the owner, but does not then go back down to other people in wages, and that creates very severe income inequality problems. To the point where, if we don’t get a handle around this, we will have issues with things like civil unrest, because of structural unemployment.

    One of the challenges of AI that we do not have with previous generations’ technologies is the literal generation. In old times, the move from agriculture to industry happened over a century. Okay, over, like, a century and a half. So the way you did things, the way your kids did things, the way their kids did things were different, but you, yourself, never had to retrain because, by the time the technology changed enough, your kids were doing it differently. They just learned in a different way. That gradual change allowed for labor markets to shift.

    AI is progressing towards general intelligence so fast that a person who is 35 today, in five years, will be 40, and they may have to reskill entirely. They don’t think… There’s not enough time for their kids to grow up and learn to do that same profession differently.

    So that income inequality is going to be a significant problem.

    The third major problem on our march to general intelligence is misuse. Misuse, from political manipulation, and deepfakes, and simulations, to just distortions of truth, and there’s no good answers for that yet. There may be some down the road, as machines evolve to basically fact-check us, but that’s going to be an issue for a while.

    The existential risks are not as big as those societal risks. Those societal risks are going to be the problem we have to solve in the next five to 10 years. If we don’t, there will be very bad consequences.

    Generally speaking, when you have substantial inequality, that’s when the pitchforks and the torches come out, and that’s never pretty. That’s always, always bloody. Generally, when you have a politically unstable system, bad things happen. Again, that’s not a huge surprise. And generally, when you have structural unemployment, bad things happen.

    So we need to solve for these things sooner rather than later, and there are ways to potentially solve for things, like universal basic income, and robot taxes, and things—or, frankly, just enforcement of existing corporate tax laws. There are ways to solve that, but we need to do it soon.

    All right, that’s going to do it for this part. In the next part, let’s talk about ethics and governance and the likely road ahead. So stay tuned.

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  • Almost Timely News, July 7, 2024: 🗞️ AI Creates Jobs In the Content Supply Chain

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    Over the past few weeks, I’ve been making a lot of music with the Suno app, combined with the language capabilities of Google Gemini. In last week’s issue, we covered the process of building a priming representation to create a country song about McDonald’s fries which is now available on most major music streaming services.

    Sidebar on Copyright

    Machine-generated content in most places is not copyrightable (your prompts are), but a lot of folks misunderstand what that means. Now, I’m not a lawyer and I cannot give legal advice; seek out a qualified attorney for legal advice specific to your situation. That said, copyright is about exclusivity and your right to profit from your content. Content that has no copyright can be used by anyone; if you print a t-shirt with the Mona Lisa on it (which is public domain), you absolutely can sell that shirt. What you cannot do is compel someone else to stop selling the exact same shirt, because you have no copyright over the Mona Lisa. So in this example, I’m putting my machine-generated songs up on music services. I’m absolutely allowed to make revenue from them, but I can’t stop anyone else from making a copy of the song and putting it up on their account. That’s what copyright means, broadly.

    Back to the Story

    This week, let’s talk about what AI content generation means for the future of work and the future of content marketing. As you almost certainly know from your own experiences with generative AI, what comes out of the machines is increasingly good but still needs polish.

    A year ago what you got out of generative AI was like a lump of half-shaped clay. You had to work it a lot to get it into the shape of a vase. Today, you get vase-shaped clay out of the machines that requires much less work to get it the way you want to look, but in most cases, you still have a little bit of polishing to do. Tomorrow’s models will probably produce nice vases in raw clay that still need to be fired; I don’t foresee any near-term future where AI content goes straigh to market, untouched.

    AI’s Imperfections Create Opportunities

    As I listen to the song candidates coming out of a tool like Suno, they’re leagues better than they were even six months ago, but they’re still not perfect. They still require work. For example:

    1. Suno still has auditory hallucinations in about half of the songs I create. These are things like weirdly repeated loops, lyrics that get mangled, or a song that ends and then it thinks it has to keep going. Many of these can be fixed in an audio editor.
    2. Suno’s music comes out unmastered. That means that it comes out sounding very much like computer-generated audio; the different instruments are all kind of blandly mixed together. This can be corrected with audio mastering, but that’s not something the AI knows to do yet.

    3. Suno’s tracks are largely not editable. I’d love at some point for it to produce the vocals track, the drum track, etc. all split apart so that they can be individually edited. If you want to do that now, that’s a ton of extra work with a tool like Spleeter to disassemble the song, and then sew it back together in a tool like Adobe Audition after making whatever changes needed.

    4. Suno doesn’t do any of the other parts of music distribution, like creating coherent cover art, naming your song, loading it up to a distribution service, and then promoting it.

    If you do these things, you can take AI’s okay outputs and improve them to pretty okay. They are still not as good as what genuine human musicians can create – for now. As models improve, expect that to change somewhat. Just as ChatGPT made incoherent dreck at its debut, its outputs now are substantially better out of the box, and the same is true for most AI models that are under development.

    The Rise of the AI Cover Band?

    But there is still a need for humans. In the audio example, there’s a critical gap. Machines will in time develop better outputs, yes, outputs that will require less editing and less mastering, etc. It’s inevitable that, with as much music as people are cranking out with these tools, one of these AI generated songs will eventually be a hit.

    What happens when audiences want to hear that live?

    Right now, your options are to have a computer play the audio track in public. That’s hardly satisfying. Concerts are a communal event, as much about gathering like-minded people for a shared experience as it is the music itself.

    A human cover band could easily take any of these machine-made tracks and perform them live, bands like the Marcel Fisser Band or Hindley Street Country Club that excel at taking existing music and covering it really well. And those folks may well have a cottage industry down the road of taking AI-created hits and performing them live. What’s more, because AI-generated music has no copyright, the bands could do so without the mess of royalties and performing rights.

    That’s a distribution challenge with AI content, one that AI isn’t going to solve. As my friend and partner Katie Robbert says frequently, new technology won’t solve old problems, and the desire for a communal music listening experience is an ancient problem.

    There is a role for humans even when AI is doing much of the heavy lifting, all along the content supply chain.

    AI and the Content Supply Chain

    What is the content supply chain? It’s the production of content from ideation to delivery:

    1. Plan the content.
    2. Make the content.
    3. Distribute the content.
    4. Market the content.
    5. Sell the content.
    6. Measure the content.

    AI makes some parts far more efficient, and in turn that makes wildly different levels of supply and demand throughout the supply chain. AI can make the content to some degree – the song, the book, the image, the video – but the best creations demand high quality ideas and high quality data. One of the things I say in my keynotes is that your ability to succeed in the age of AI is determined by whoever has the most, best data and whoever has the most, best ideas.

    So there’s a high demand for high quality data and high quality ideas at scale. Again, going back to the music example, last week’s song was driven by an annoyance I had about how quickly McDonald’s fries cool down. It made a fun song. Is it going to be a hit? Almost certainly not. It wasn’t a high quality idea, though it was a fun one. But there absolutely is a demand for high quality song ideas.

    That’s upstream from the production process, in the planning stage of the content supply chain.

    AI obviously is the engine of production in these examples, tackling the first part of stage 2, making the content. But after the machines create the content, then what? That’s where the downstream part of the content supply chain has to deal with the impact of AI.

    For example, suppose we now have a glut of AI-generated music. All that music still has to be edited, mastered, and then distributed, marketed, monetized, and measured. The machines can’t do those tasks in a single workflow; you can get some efficiencies here and there, but by and large it’s still a manual, human process. And that means you need people to do those tasks.

    When you’ve got a new album from an artist, that’s 10-15 songs that need management and production, and that might occur over the span of a year. Billie Eilish, Beyonce, and Taylor Swift release albums relatively infrequently. When AI is in the mix, you might have a new album a day. Suddenly, you need a lot more people doing the downstream tasks.

    The Logjams of AI

    This is the key point about AI’s impact on knowledge work. Some parts of any knowledge work process will be handed off to machines in part or in whole, but rarely will the entire process be handed to a machine because it’s so heterogenous and distributed across multiple systems and disciplines. And that means you’ll have logjams at various points in the process, logjams that humans will need to resolve.

    For example, my general workflow for making a song goes like this:

    1. Come up with the idea.
    2. Write out the idea in plain text.
    3. Use Google Gemini to turn the text into lyrics.
    4. Use Google Gemini to draft the sound design prompt.
    5. Use Suno to make the song candidates.
    6. Choose a song candidate – usually I make 5-10 of them and choose the best.
    7. Master the song with Python’s Matchering library.
    8. Edit the song in Adobe Audition to clean up Suno’s hallucinations and get it production ready.
    9. Create the cover art with ChatGPT’s image creation module.
    10. Load the song in Amuse and distribute it.

    And that just covers the first 3 steps of the content supply chain. We haven’t even touched on marketing, monetization, or measurement.

    When we talk about the future of work, this is what we’re talking about. We’re not only talking about new jobs that don’t exist, we’re also talking about the jobs of today that will be changed. Some will diminish. Others will be busier than ever. An AI music hit factory will still need people, processes, and platforms to do the six stages of the content supply chain, and AI can only help so much.

    For example, in the workflow above, I could probably automate steps 3 and 4. Step 6 can’t be automated. It’s so subjective that it must remain human. Step 7 is mostly automated. Steps 8-9 are manual. Step 10 is manual now but perhaps one day there will be a platform with a robust API.

    You can see that even in this hobbyist example, there are a lot of parts of the content supply chain that AI just can’t help with.

    When I look at my own whimsical use of AI to make pretty good music, AI is filling in a strategic gap in the content supply chain – namely, my complete lack of musical talent. I can provide the rest of the supply chain, the ideation, the distribution and marketing. And every content creator out there worried that AI is going to make them obsolete is understandably worried, but as we’ve seen from these hobbyist examples, there’s still so much AI can’t do. Their expert skills in the creation part will lend them an edge in creation that I don’t have. My friend and producer Ruby King often points out when we review tracks where AI just missed the boat, in ways that I don’t know because I don’t have music composition expertise.

    A Familiar Disruption

    There are strong historical parallels; this sort of disruption has happened many times before. The rise of the printing press created books at a much greater scale than ever before, fundamentally changing how society worked and making knowledge more accessible. The rise of the mass manufactured automobile in the USA created a massive change across the landscape; restaurants, hotels, and roadside tourist attractions all sprung up to take advantage of the new audience and the new demand.

    Today, we still see echoes of that disruption even in modern culture. A Michelin-starred chef, one of the highest culinary accolades, stems from the Michelin Guide, a restaurant guidebook put out by the Michelin tire company to stimulate driving demand in Europe back in 1900.

    There is no way to accurately predict what work will look like, what content will look like, what society will look like as AI becomes ascendant in the creation of content as part of the overall content supply chain.

    What we do know and can rely on are the same basic motivators that won’t change. Companies want to save money, save time, and make money. Consumers want things to be better, faster, and cheaper. If our AI efforts are aligned to these timeless motivations, then using it will deliver meaningful impact.

    And looking ahead, as we saw with the automobile creating all sorts of side industries, I wholly expect AI to do the same, from cover bands performing AI hits to music producers cleaning up AI music to developmental editors fixing AI novels to artists cleaning up AI art. AI will dramatically amplify production, which means the rest of the content supply chain will need more people than ever to keep up.

    As always, shameless plug, if you want help with scaling your generative AI systems and processes in your supply chain, this is literally what my company does, so if getting started with this use of generative AI is of interest, hit me up.

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  • Mind Readings: Why Large Context Generative AI Models Matter

    Mind Readings: Why Large Context Generative AI Models Matter

    In today’s episode, you’ll delve into the groundbreaking world of Google’s Gemini 1.5 and its massive 2-million-token context window. Discover how this expanded “short-term memory” for AI models is revolutionizing what’s possible with generative AI. You’ll gain a clear understanding of what this technological leap means for you and your business, unlocking a world of possibilities for data analysis, content creation, and more. Tune in to grasp the implications of this game-changing advancement in AI and explore how you can leverage it to your advantage.

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    In today’s episode, let’s talk about Google’s most recent release of the Gemini model. The most recent incarnation is Gemini 1.5, with a 2-million-token context window. This version of Gemini — the large language model, which is a competitor to ChatGPT — has the same basic operations as the previous version, with one really big change: it now comes with a 2-million-token context window. That is huge in multiple senses of the word.

    For the non-nerds, the non-technical folks, AI models — particularly those used by language models like ChatGPT, Google Gemini, Anthropic, Claude — have two kinds of memory: there’s latent space and context windows. Think of these as long-term and short-term memory. In the keynotes that I deliver, I refer to them as “the library and the librarian.” There’s a library where it has a huge store of knowledge in a relatively static form, like books. And then there’s a librarian.

    You talk to the librarian, and it goes into the library, goes into the stacks, and finds the books you want. The difference with language models is, instead of entire books, the librarian goes and gets one word at a time once you ask them to do something.

    So, our ability to get good results out of language models is contingent on asking the librarian very specifically what we want — maybe giving the librarian a lot of detailed instructions. If you tell the librarian, “Go get me a book,” they will, and it won’t be what you want. If you tell the librarian, “I want a copy of AI for Marketers, Third Edition, by Christopher Penn,” you’re probably going to get a better result.

    In the early days of generative AI, the librarian would forget what you were asking for fairly frequently, and you’d have to remind the librarian a lot what you were talking about. Their short-term memory was really short. When ChatGPT first came out, it had a context window of — this is 4,000, I think it was 8,000 — 8,000 tokens, or about 5,000 words. Because the way models work, they don’t even work on full words, they work on pieces of words.

    So, if your conversation — if you’re talking about a blog post, and, you know, it’s an 800-word blog post or 1,000-word blog post, and you go through a couple of revisions — by the time you get to like revision four, the model, the librarian, has started to forget the beginning of the conversation. You have to remind it, “Oh, we’re talking about writing a blog post about this.”

    When you use today’s modern models like the paid version of ChatGPT, the paid version of Gemini, etc., their memories are much longer. You can talk about that same blog post, and it won’t forget what you’re talking about for quite some time.

    Now, this most recent reveal from Google means that Gemini can hold a conversation in memory that is about 1.5 million words long. To give you some context, the book series A Song of Ice and Fire by George R.R. Martin, which is the basis for Game of Thrones, that’s like a million and a half words — that could fit in Gemini’s short-term memory model now. This book by Ann Handley is about 75,000 words; it’ll hold about 20 of these now in its memory. That is a crazy amount of short-term memory.

    Can you imagine having a conversation that was 20 books long in a few minutes? No. That’s beyond what human beings are capable of. That’s why machines scale so much better.

    What does this mean? What do we do with this information?

    Well, it opens up ever larger possibilities for people in their usage of generative AI. For example, let’s say you issued an RFP, and you get all these RFP responses back, and every agency that’s responded to this, you know, put together an 83-page RFP response, and, you know, the first 10 pages are, “Oh, we’re, you know, we have won these awards, we work with these brands, and we’ve got a lake in front of our building and blah, blah, blah,” right? Not a lot of value there. And you get 10 responses, 20 responses, 30 responses.

    Well, now, instead of having to, you know, manually comb through all these responses, you can have generative AI build a scoring rubric for the requirements that you outlined in the RFP. Then you load all 20 or 30 RFP responses into the model and say, “Score them all.” Because of the size of memory it has available, it can do that. It will do that in a very, very capable way. It will save you an enormous amount of time. You can say, “I want to know about these five things. Go through all 20 responses and score the responses on these five things.”

    If you’re analyzing data, you can have crazy amounts of data in memory. You can have — you could put — I was at an event recently, was speaking at the Australian Food and Grocery Council’s annual conference, and I took the entire federal budget for the country of Australia and stuffed it in Gemini and said, “Okay, what are the implications for this association, based on what was in the budget and what the association does?” Right on stage, people can see, “Wow, this is exactly how this budget is going to improve my business or possibly harm my business.”

    If you’re writing a book, you can store the entire thing, plus multiple drafts, plus reference materials, in memory as you write. You can get advice along the way. “How do I rewrite this? How do I outline this? Rearrange this part for me.” The models can keep track of stuff. As long as it’s structured well, they can keep track and recall and move things around.

    One of my favorite use cases is to take a transcript, like the closed captions that are coming along with this video, and have a model outline what I talked about, and then say, “Okay, well, rearrange the pieces of this outline in a more logical fashion, that maybe has a better narrative flow.” And it will do that. Then I say, “Okay, now give me back my words.” So, not writing something, just rearranging my words according to this outline. Because these models have such sophisticated, large memories now, they can do something like that.

    And this roadmap that Google has said is to get to a functional 10-million-token context window. At that size, we’re talking about 10 copies of Game of Thrones, 17 copies of Lord of the Rings, 100 of Ann’s book, right? That is — that is even more mind-boggling just how much knowledge these things will be able to hold onto.

    Think about an example: like, if you wanted to understand what long COVID was really about, you might download 50, 60, 100 clinical papers, peer-reviewed research in detail, and get — get all that in. That might be a couple million words. But then, because the models can keep that all in memory, and you can ask questions across different papers, you might be able to get really good conclusions backed in — in reality, right? So you’re not going to hallucinate if you’re asking questions about the data you’ve already got.

    In fact, there are tools like Noteable Plugin for Language Model Applications (LM) that do exactly that: they won’t write anything, but they will answer questions based on the data you give them.

    So, start thinking about the data that you have now, how big it is, and what you could do with that data if you had a model with access to a large short-term memory — which you do — and what you would do with that model that you can’t do today. That’s the key — the key takeaway: what would you do with the data you have that you’re not doing today because there’s just too much of it, and you can’t keep it in mind, but a machine can?

    That’s going to do it for this episode. Thanks for tuning in! Talk to you next time. If you enjoyed this video, please hit the like button. Subscribe to my channel if you haven’t already. And if you want to know when new videos are available, hit the bell button to be notified as soon as new content is live.
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  • Mind Readings: Why I Hired a Human Musician Instead of AI

    Mind Readings: Why I Hired a Human Musician Instead of AI

    In today’s episode, you’ll get a behind-the-scenes look at the creation of my YouTube theme song and discover why I chose to hire a human musician instead of using AI. You’ll learn about the legal implications of AI-generated content and the potential copyright issues that can arise. You’ll also gain valuable insights into the strengths and limitations of both human and machine creativity in the realm of music. Tune in to discover why sometimes, human is the way to go.

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    Christopher Penn: Maybe you have heard my theme song. In today’s episode, let’s talk about this a bit because I think it’s important. It’s at the end of all my YouTube videos. It’ll be at the end of this video, among other things.

    In fact, I may put the whole song in this video for fun.

    Would it surprise you to know that it’s not made by a machine? It’s not made by AI. I hired and paid a human being—out of pocket, $500. Why didn’t I use a machine? Why didn’t I use AI? I talked about AI all the time and how amazing it is.

    Well, two reasons. One, the specific instructions I gave my composer—my composer is a woman named Ruby King, based in the UK, phenomenal musician. The instructions I gave her, something AI was not capable of doing at the time: I had a source song.

    And, for those of you who’ve been following me for since the very, very early days, you may remember my first podcast, the Financial Aid Podcast, that had music in it. It was Charlie Crow’s “Vegas Hard Rock Shuffle”, which was licensed under what was at the time known as the Podsafe Music Network.

    My friend CC Chapman was a big part of that initial effort that was run by a company called Podshow. That song was licensed to podcasters. If you were a member of the Podsafe Music Network, you could use that and not have to pay royalties and all that stuff on it.

    Technically, I could probably still use—exam still doing a podcast and the song of using podcasting, and I signed that original license—but, Podshow’s gone. That company just imploded and blew up like a decade ago.

    And, my general understanding is that if the licensing entity is gone, then the license itself is also gone, as well as null and void. And, even if it weren’t, I don’t have documentation saying that I signed this thing. It was it was run by them.

    And, when it comes to intellectual property, you generally want to make sure that you you have rights to use something, especially for commercial purposes. So, the instructions I gave to my composer were: I want this original song to be the thematic inspiration for a new song, but the final product cannot sound like the original, can’t use the same chord progressions. It can’t use the same melody because I have no license to use it, and I don’t want to I don’t want to music lawyers showing up at my house to punch me in the face.

    Fun sidebar: music and intellectual property—the music industry, I think, has probably the strictest protections of intellectual property for creators of any of the industries we know because the music industry has been suing people left, right, and center for 50 years. And, they’re really good at it.

    And, there’s—unlike other forms of content creation, like writing, for example, writing is incredibly flexible. You can write in so many different genres and things. There’s only so many ways you can make sounds that sound good. There’s there’s more restriction, there’s somewhat more restriction on music than there is, say, on the the total freeform nature of writing.

    So, that was the remit. A human composer can mentally wrangle that task, right? Okay, I can get—crits, and it’s thematically inspired by, but is not the same thing, not even copying elements.

    A machine has a much harder time with that. Services like Suno and Audo and stuff are way more capable today than they were six months ago, but even today, given detailed instructions, they still couldn’t nail what I was after. Believe me, I tried. I messed around trying to create, probably a few dozen variations and just could not.

    So, this is a case where the human simply does a better job—probably will for a little while.

    So that’s consideration number one: humans simply are better at the task.

    Consideration number two, which I think is probably arguably more important: Remember this. Because of the court case Naruto versus Slater, at least the United States. This is the court case where a chimpanzee picked up a photographer’s camera, took a selfie of the photographer tried to copy and protect, and went to the courts, and the courts ruled: human, you didn’t do the work, the chimpanzee did the work. Chimpanzees can’t hold copyright, and therefore, this this has no copyright.

    The the natural extension of that legislation is that machine-made content cannot be copyrighted. Machine-made content cannot be copyrighted. And, that means if you use AI to generate your song, and if someone else likes that theme music, they can copy it with absolutely no repercussions. And, they, you have a B2B marketing podcast, and you create some great music, and someone else goes, “Wow, that sounds really good, I’m going to copy that.” You can’t do anything about it. There’s nothing you can do about it because it’s not copyrightable. It’s immediately in the public domain the moment it’s made.

    A work for hire made by a human being can be copyrighted. If someone copies my human-made theme music, I can send the music industry lawyer to punch him in the face—metaphorically speaking—because the copyright is intact and transferred to to me as the as the sponsor of the and the producer of the song.

    So, that consideration is a really important consideration when it comes to the use of artificial intelligence. You—if you want to be able to enforce copyright with no questions asked whatsoever, it’s got to be human-made.

    There is a place for AI in the creative arts. There is a place for AI in music. There is also a place for humans in music. It’s one of those things where it’s not either/or—it’s and. There’s a place for both entities depending on the use cases.

    So that’s good for today’s show. Thanks for tuning in. Talk to you next time.

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  • Mind Readings: Generative AI Performs Best With Uniquely Human Inputs

    Mind Readings: Generative AI Performs Best With Uniquely Human Inputs

    In today’s episode, you’ll learn how to transform a simple piece of writing into a captivating song using the power of generative AI. You’ll discover the importance of providing AI with specific, detailed instructions and how to use the Trust Insights PAIR framework to guide your process. We’ll explore tools like Suno and Gemini, using them to analyze writing styles, generate lyrics, and even compose original music. Tune in to unlock your creativity and find out how to make your content stand out!

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    In today’s episode, let’s walk through and talk through how you might convert one piece of content into another piece of content that would be highly entertaining, that would be different, that would be unique, could be fun, etc.

    I’m specifically talking about using generative AI to ingest, say, standard writing and convert it into a song.

    Now, why would you do something like this? Well, because you want to stand out, because you want to make something that’s fun, that’s lighthearted, that is different, that is creative, that is thoughtful, and that communicates things in a different way.

    My friend Ann Handley publishes this really fantastic newsletter. It’s called Total Annarchy—a pun on her name—which you can find over at annehandley.com. And, she published this issue on Sunday, June 9th, which is about all all the major, big shifts in marketing.

    Traditional SEO is dying, Google is is whacking businesses in the knees with the baseball, AI is is breaking everything. All these big things are happening. What does it mean for us? It means we should be working on being more human, building on trust and affinity, focusing on what brings us joy, etc. It’s a really good issue. It’s a really good issue for a newsletter.

    So, what could we do with this? What if you wanted to change change this into something else?

    There are some really fun AI-based services. There’s one here called Suno, for example, that is—allows you to give the service a prompt. And, let’s go ahead and go to the home tab here, go to “Create and start over”.

    There we go.

    And, you can put in sort of instructions, short prompts to get to—create.

    One of the challenges of creating something is you—unique and different—is that you need to have a starting point. One of the things that people do most wrong with generative AI is they give very generic, boring, bland instructions. And, of course, that creates generic, boring, and bland outputs. So, we don’t want to do that.

    The good news is: if we start with a really solid input, we can create a really cool output. And, a newsletter is an example of a really strong input.

    What if we could take the way that Ann writes and do something fun with it? Now, Ann is a self-professed, really big Taylor Swift fan. What if Suno could replicate something that was inspired by, but not derivative of, the way that Taylor Swift works? The way you would do this is you would have generative AI first understand that and then perform that way.

    So, let’s take a look at this. We would say, “What are the major components of writing style?” and it comes up with things: diction, sentence structure, tone, and voice, and say, “Okay, well, great. But, songwriting style, you have: rhythm and rhyme, lyrical imagery, storytelling, voice, perspective, musicality, and flow.”

    That’s pretty good. That that’s a good explanation. This, by the way, we are using the PAIR framework from Trust Insights to build this. If you want to learn how to do this, go to trustinsights.ai/pair, get the PDF. It’s free, no forms to fill out, etc., etc.

    So, we’ve now preloaded, we’ve primed, the model with an understanding of what good songwriting is. Now, we can then say, well, “Here is—let’s take that framework of components, analyze the song and provide a detailed outline of the songwriting style for each of these components. So, take Taylor Swift’s ‘You Belong With Me’.”

    And, it says, “Let’s break it down to rhythm and rhyme, meter and rhyme, rhyme scheme, repetition, conciseness, and impact, metaphor, symbolism, narrative, emotional arc, etc.” So, it does this nice, strong analysis, taking apart this this song and saying, “Here’s the here’s how it was made. This is kind of like the recipe.” So, it’s not the finished good because we don’t want to copy—we don’t want to don’t want to just make a carbon copy. We want to understand how it was made. And, this goes through a lot of that.

    Say, “Okay, well, that’s great. Convert this analysis—this really detailed analysis—into a prompt for a language model to follow, saying: ‘The purpose of the prompt is to have the user submit some plain, written prose and have the language model convert it into a song using the writing style components of this song. It is essential that none of the actual lyrics of the original are used. Instead, the key elements of the songwriting framework to convert the prose.’”

    So, again, we want to emphasize, we’re not going to copy and paste Taylor’s original song. We are instead going to take inspiration from the way—the methodology—that she uses.

    And, it creates these lovely system instructions. We add a bit more specificity and get the full prompt. This prompt then goes into the custom instructions for—I’m using Gemini, but you could use this in ChatGPT.

    There’s our custom instructions. Now, we give this thing Ann’s newsletter and say, “Here’s the prose to convert into song lyrics.” And, it does a nice job of this. I did specify, “Hey, I want this to slightly shorter verse one, chorus, verse two because Suno has length limits on the length of the song. It can only make a song that’s four minutes long. Typically, if you give it something like verse, chorus, verse, chorus, bridge, chorus, outro, it hits that four-minute limit.” We want to keep it short.

    So, verse one, chorus, verse two, chorus, bridge, outro. And, it comes up with some nice lyrics.

    One of the things that a service like Suno shines best at—and, again, this is true of all generative AI: the more data you bring, the better it performs—like, it does a really—I think—mediocre job of creating its own lyrics for it because you only get, like, 200 characters to prompt it. I don’t think that’s great. So, instead, what we do is we provide it all the lyrics ourselves—from Gemini, from the from AI Studio in here. And, we put it in.

    We then need to provide it with a style—how that music sounds.

    So, if you go to Gemini, we say, “How would you describe the musical style of this song?”

    The genre, tempo instrumentation, melody, lyrics, structure, production, overall vibe. And, what about things like chord progression—more technical aspects of the music? Chord progression.

    It goes through all the stuff and then say, “Great, create a 120-character prompt” because that’s the amount of space you are allowed to use here for this. That goes in here, too.

    And then, fun, I said, “Okay, I need five candidate song titles for this.”

    What we’ve now done is we’ve taken a great piece of original content—Ann’s newsletter—revised and refined and distilled it down into song lyrics using generative AI, analyzed a style of writing that we want to leverage to create something, and ultimately turn it into a piece of music. Now, this isn’t going to win any Grammys.

    It’s okay. It’s it’s not amazing. It’s it’s pretty good. But, it’s not, like, “Wow, it’s so good,” because it’s—it is stylistically derivative. It’s—it—generative AI will never create something that is completely and totally net new because it is trained on things that already exist. That’s just—that’s the nature of a prediction machine. It predicts based on what it’s already seen.

    Can it cross genres and do mashups and stuff like that? Absolutely. Can it interpret and understand and blend things together and do synthesis? Absolutely. But, it can never create something that has never been seen before because you can’t predict what’s never happened.

    So, what did we come up with? How did this sound? Well, let’s take the next four minutes to give a listen.

    We’ll be right back.

    And, there you have it. There is—there’s a song. It captures really well a lot of the spirit of the original piece, a lot of the spirit of Ann’s newsletter. It does a great job of distilling out many of the points that she made in this piece—the bits about LinkedIn and SEO and Google and artificial intelligence, why you sign your work, how important it is that marketing is supposed to be fun—it’s supposed to bring you joy. All that’s in there, and all that made that into the song.

    So, the key takeaway here is: if you want really great output from generative AI, start with really great input. Start with a really great input and stuff that’s unique. Your own writing, your own ideas, your own voicemail transcripts, or whatever, is going to make a difference. You’re going to perform better for creating unique content than just a prompt because a prompt is generic, right? “Write me a story about a princess falling in love,”—that’s pretty generic. If you brought in, like, the tale of Cinderella or the tale of Frozen or any of the—anything that is the actual source material, generative AI is going to have an easier time working with it, and it’s going to create better output.

    So, you should have a content library. Folks will, in the ad world, called a swipe file. It is a way to store things that you think are really inspirational, really good. You should have a library, especially of your own stuff, things that have performed well in the past, ideas, creative executions, drawings, music, whatever you’ve got on hand. And, that’s what you should be using as sort of the fodder—the raw materials—to feed to generative AI. It will make—it will make more of you as opposed to more generic stuff. And, in an era when everyone and their cousin’s going to be using generic prompts and generic stuff, you have the opportunity to stand out with your really good, original content. So, stuff that is uniquely you, which exactly reinforces what I was saying in the newsletter.

    So, just thought you’d enjoy that fun walkthrough. Thanks for tuning in. We’ll talk to you next time.

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  • Mind Readings: Retrieval Augmented Generation vs. Fine Tuning in Generative AI

    Mind Readings: Retrieval Augmented Generation vs. Fine Tuning in Generative AI

    In today’s episode, you’ll gain valuable insights into two powerful techniques for enhancing generative AI models: retrieval augmented generation and fine-tuning. I’ll use a simple yet effective analogy of a librarian and a library to illustrate the key differences between these approaches and when to apply each one. Whether you’re dealing with limited data or aiming to tailor AI responses for specific business needs, you’ll walk away with a clear understanding of how to optimize your AI applications for superior performance.

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    Christopher Penn: In today’s episode, let’s talk about two techniques — two technical techniques that people use to improve the performance of generative AI systems — like ChatGPT, for example.

    Although these techniques are more geared for people running models like the GPT-4 model, but local ones within their servers, or using the more technical API versions of these tools.

    Why would you do this? Why would this be of interest to you? Well, you may want to have a model with very specific, custom information, or you may be running a model in a controlled environment where security and data privacy are really important, and you just can’t use the public tools — national security, protected health care information, etc.

    There are two general ways to change how a model behaves. One is called “retrieval augmented generation,” where you connect a database of your data to a model. The other is called “fine-tuning,” where you essentially give a model lots and lots of specific examples of what you want it to do, and retrain it — re-weight it. There’s a variety of techniques within that school.

    When you hear these terms — when you hear people talking about these terms — they are talking about changing behaviors, typically for a specific application, like a chatbot on your website. You wouldn’t really do this for the consumer version of any of these tools. You wouldn’t do it, for —

    Christopher Penn: — example, to change how you use ChatGPT on a day-to-day basis; there’s really no point in doing that.

    What are these things? Here’s a way to think about it. If you think of a language model — again, like the ones that power ChatGPT or Anthropic’s Claude, etc. — as a library, it is a huge library. There’s a certain percentage of the model that, in technical terms, are called “retrieval heads.” Think of these as the librarians at the front desk in the library.

    When you give them a prompt, they go back into the library, and they try and pull all the stuff necessary to answer your prompt — except instead of returning entire books, they return, like, one word at a time. They’re going through all these books trying to find the related words and bring back all the words to you.

    Sometimes they get it wrong. Sometimes there’s — it’s called “hallucinating,” where they try to get the — they try to do what you tell them to do, but the information may not be in the library, or they may not know how to do it.

    For example, suppose a really small library — a little, like, neighborhood library. In this fictional example, you go to the library, and you say, “Hey, I’d like a copy of The Joy of Cooking,” and the librarian goes back into those very small stacks, looks around, and says, “Don’t have that. What’s the closest thing I can find?” Pulls a book off the shelf, comes back, and says, “Here’s The Joy of Sex. That’s what you wanted, right?”

    You’re like, “Oh, no, that is—” I mean, linguistically, yes, it’s close in title, but this is completely the wrong answer. Hallucination, typically, is something that is statistically correct — or statistically close — but factually wrong.

    That’s a sort of humorous example. So, in situations like that, you may want to say, like, “Yeah, we need more books in the library.”

    So you would use a technique like retrieval augmented generation and connect a database of your data. One of the rules of thumb with AI is: the more data you bring to the party, the less it’s going to hallucinate — the less it’s going to make things up.

    So in retrieval augmented generation, it’s like saying, “The library doesn’t have books about our company, about — about Trust Insights. Let’s give the model — that’s connected to a database — all the stuff that Trust Insights has ever done: all our newsletters, our blog posts, our YouTube videos, our live streams.”

    Suddenly, the next time you go back to the library and you see the librarian — “Hey, what do you got for — for stuff on Trust Insights?” — the librarian looks around and goes, “Well, there’s not much in the mainline, but wow, there’s this new — this new wing you just built filled with stuff about Trust Insights. I can go and get that stuff from that section of the library. And here’s the answer.” And you, as the prompter, are much happier.

    Fine-tuning, on the other hand, is when the library doesn’t know how to do something. You go to the library — and this is a silly example — you go to the library, and you say, “Hey, I want some books, and I want some DVDs,” and the librarian’s like, “What’s a DVD? Never heard of it. We got books, but I don’t know what a DVD is.”

    You’re like, “Okay, so let me — let me show you some examples. This is a DVD.” You pull one out and stuff like that. “It’s filed like a book, but it’s a little, brown disc, and it’s got a cover, and it’s got a barcode.”

    You essentially teach the librarian, “Here’s what a DVD is, here’s how to find a DVD, here’s where they are in the library,” and so on and so forth. The librarian becomes smarter; the librarian now knows how to find books and how to find DVDs.

    That’s an example of fine-tuning. You’re giving lots of examples to the model to say, “I want you to learn how to do this specific task really well.”

    Now, when you fine-tune, depending on the method you use, you have the potential of causing some interesting chain reactions inside the model. It’d be like, teaching the librarian how to find DVDs, they forget what a book is. Like, “Whoops, that wasn’t supposed to happen.”

    So that can happen, but these two techniques are important to understand the difference because a lot of people mix the two up in terms of what they’re good at. As a result, [they] pursue the wrong strategy when it comes to customizing AI within their company — at a — at a company level, at an organizational level, at an enterprise level.

    Again, this does not apply to your personal usage of ChatGPT, or Gemini, or Claude. This applies to companies building applications based on AI models. In the big, public stuff, you have the ability to fine-tune, AKA its library and how to do something different, but to connect your own data is a little bit more work.

    So although there are systems like Google’s Vertex that allow you to do both, —

    Christopher Penn: — you need to know the difference because you need to know what kind of problem you’re trying to solve. Is generative AI in your company’s application failing because it just doesn’t have enough books in the library? Then you want retrieval augmented generation.

    Is it failing because it doesn’t know how to answer customers’ requests that are specific to your business? If that’s the case, that’s a behavioral issue, and you need to use fine-tuning. You need to gather up 1,000, 2,000, 3,000 examples of a customer request and the appropriate answer, and you tune the model to say, “Here’s how to answer these types of customer requests.”

    So knowing the difference between the two helps you set a better strategy for how you want to customize your use of AI in enterprise applications. The analogy of a librarian who either just can’t find the books in the back or doesn’t know what a DVD is really helps make tangible these two, very technical concepts.

    That’s going to do it for today’s show. Thanks for tuning in! Talk to you on the next one. If you enjoyed this video, please hit the like button. Subscribe to my channel if you haven’t already. If you want to know when new videos are available, hit the bell button to be notified as soon as new content is live.
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  • Mind Readings: What Can’t AI Summarize?

    Mind Readings: What Can't AI Summarize?

    In today’s episode, we’re diving deep into the world of Google’s AI summaries and what they mean for your content marketing strategy. Discover why the era of “easy” content is fading and how AI is changing the game for both better and worse. You’ll learn the key difference between information and experience and why creating memorable experiences for your audience is the secret to thriving in an AI-driven world. Don’t miss out on these valuable insights that will reshape your approach to content creation!

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    Christopher Penn: In today’s episode, let’s talk about summaries. Specifically, let’s talk about Google’s new AI summaries. People have had a lot to say about the new AI answers in Google, and understandably so. It can be a bit off-putting.

    This is formerly known as “search generative experiments,” and people are talking about how it’s going to eat the web, it’s going to decimate organic search. Definitely, there will be impacts, for sure. There are going to be impacts — certainly for informational queries, that’s definitely going to be the case where unbranded search is going to be substantially, negatively impacted by this. But this is not new. This is not a surprise.

    Google has been telegraphing this with search generative experiments for at least half a year now. Bing and Perplexity have been doing this for considerably longer, so this is not new.

    So the question is, what can’t AI summarize? The days of easy content marketing — slap up some blog posts, hire some ghostwriters, etc., just crank out content — those days are coming to a close. The days when you could do relatively low-lift content marketing — spend 150 bucks, get someone to write a blog post, slap it up, and boom, you’re in business — that business model of essentially creating junk food content at scale and putting up pages filled with ads and lead capture forms is going to die at the hands of AI.

    Christopher Penn: — Because the summarized, generated experience is a better experience for the consumer. If you’ve ever been on a website with one nugget of information you need that was buried 14 scrolls and 33 ads down, you know that the generated AI experience is a better experience for the consumer. If you’ve ever tried to read a recipe, it’s like, this long, and the mother’s daughter’s cousin’s second cousin’s dog’s roommate’s boyfriend wrote this article about this thing 28 years ago, and this is why the ham is — who cares? Just tell me what temperature to put the oven at.

    That’s what we want to get. We want to get at the information we want with as little friction as possible. A lot of sites have made a lot of money over the years creating high-friction experiences to get you to click on ads or to get you to fill out forms. AI — and AI summarization, in particular, on the web — reduces that friction by summarizing away all the crap that we’ve been loading sites up with.

    So here’s a question for your digital marketing strategy then, if this is something of concern to you: what can’t AI summarize?

    This isn’t a trick question. What can’t machines summarize because there’s no value in the summary? Not information — information can be summarized pretty easily. Experiences — what experiences can you give your website visitors? What interactive activities defy summarization but provide value — from games to calculators to interactive chats, maybe, who knows, even real people, to communities online?

    Experiences defy summarization. Why is that? Because experiences are all about emotion. Summary is about information. In the same way that a photo only gives a fraction of the value of an actual vacation, what experience could you create that an AI summary would only give a fraction of the value to but — like the photo — would compel people to want the same experience for themselves?

    I can show you pictures I’ve taken on the road — beautiful places around the world: Melbourne, Australia; the deserts outside of Las Vegas; off the coast of Montenegro. All these places that are so incredible to visit, and the photos are a great summary. “Hey, here’s the thing. Look how nice this is.” Everyone else is like, “Ah, that’s incredible. I want to go there and have that experience for myself.” No one says, “Great, I’ve seen that photo. I don’t need to go there.”

    Not for places that are nice to go. There’s a place that’s terrible to go. You’re like, “You know what, that summary is awesome. I’m glad I don’t need to go to that place because that looks awful.”

    Think about that. Summaries are good when the raw materials are bad. Summaries are bad when the raw materials are good. When you look at the beaches of Tivat, you’re like, “Ah, I want to go there. I don’t want — I don’t want your photo, I want to be there.” When you look at, like, Revere Beach in Massachusetts, you’re like, “Wow, it’s an open sewer pipe on the beach. No, I’m good with the photo, I don’t need to go there.”

    That’s — that’s where summaries play a role, and that’s how your marketing can sidestep the summary by making things that people really want for themselves.

    I frequently — low-effort content marketing is toast in an AI summary world because it’s too easy to make a summary that’s better than the — better than —

    Christopher Penn: — the original content. The reverse — low frequency, very high-effort, very high-value content marketing, where you are creating unique experiences for someone that defies summarization — that is, those are cases where the summary is worse than the original. It makes for greater experiences. It gives people something to remember you by.

    It doesn’t have to be physical stuff. You remember your favorite video game, or that one show that you binge-watch a dozen times over, and you keep watching —

    Christopher Penn: — over and over and over again on that streaming service because it provides that emotional comfort. No amount of summarization is worth even just watching that same thing — that same comfort show — over and over again.

    You remember the interactive calculator that gave you the right answer about how much your mortgage would actually cost you, and everyone else’s was just providing confusion. You remember the conversations you had in an online community that enriched you — that, professionally or personally, made you feel better. That made you — maybe — maybe even made you meet a significant other in that community.

    That is the ultimate experience that AI can’t summarize — or, if it can, something’s gone horribly wrong.

    If you want to market well in the generative AI era, in the era of AI summarization, you’ve got to create experiences that AI only diminishes and doesn’t improve — like the photo. If the photo’s better than the original, it’s no good. If the photo is worse than the original, you’re onto something.

    That’s going to do it for this episode. Thanks for tuning in! Talk to you soon. If you enjoyed this video, please hit the like button. Subscribe to my channel if you haven’t already. If you want to know when new videos are available, hit the bell button to be notified as soon as new content is live.


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