Christopher S. Penn – Marketing AI Keynote Speaker

Author: Christopher S Penn

  • How I work: my morning social publishing routine

    Alan Belniak and Gini Dietrich both asked how I work in the mornings. Here’s a quick video walkthrough of my personal processes. As always, I’ll caution you that what I do isn’t what you should do. Like a BLT, everyone has their own recipe, their own way of doing things. Borrow ideas if you like, but make them your own. Just because I do something doesn’t make it the “right” way or the “best” way.

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  • Has Facebook failed local businesses?

    Laura asked about my thoughts on this Fast Company article:

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    If the question is whether the free ride is over for businesses on Facebook, the answer is an unequivocal yes. The freeloading is done and gone. Nullem gratuitem prandium: no such thing as a free lunch, as the Romans said.

    If the question is whether Facebook is useless to small businesses that don’t have millions of dollars, the answer is equally firm: no. Facebook is still plenty useful to businesses even on meager budgets.

    What sort of things might small, local businesses still be able to do on Facebook without shelling out massive fortunes?

    Retargeting and Remarketing

    Facebook offers two simple kinds of remarketing and retargeting. The first is custom audiences, in which you upload your email or phone database (hashed, if you want it to be guaranteed secure) and then set up ads to run against that audience. It’s an inexpensive way to reach the highest value people on Facebook – people who you’ve identified could be customers or are customers already.

    The second kind of remarketing is web-based remarketing. Small businesses can place tracking tags on the most valuable pages on their websites and then show ads only to those people who visit those pages and leave.

    Both of these forms of advertising can be done for $5 a day and up. Obviously, the more resources you can throw at it, the better, but you can do a lot for a little.

    Network Leverage

    Another form of Facebook marketing leverages the gap between business Page and employees. If you’re a small business owner who has done a good job of cultivating your personal Facebook profile in addition to your business Page, then make sure you’re sharing your business Page updates from your personal profile. 

    An excellent example of this is my martial arts teacher, Mark Davis. He shares the Boston Martial Arts business Page updates on his personal profile, and more often than not, I see his posts before the school’s posts:

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    Note that you don’t have to do this with EVERY post – just the key ones, like upcoming events, etc.

    Facebook Groups

    The final area you can leverage is Facebook Groups, either by participating (sensibly, please; no spamming!) or setting up your own group. Groups are an easy way to reach pockets of people who share interests in what your business serves. Find the right group, and if one doesn’t exist, make one!

    Bear in mind that geography is important. Just because there’s a broad category group doesn’t mean there’s a local group. There’s a podcasting group, but is there a suburban Boston podcasters group? If not, there’s an easy void for you to fill.

    Yes, Small Businesses Can Benefit from Facebook

    Facebook still has opportunities for meaningful participation by businesses big and small. You have to find them, and for the ones you don’t pay money for, you have to work harder at them.

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  • Should you have a social media marketing patron?

    In one of many conversations yesterday at Social Media Marketing World, I was asked, “How does someone new get started building a following?” While there’s no cut and dried answer that makes it easy, one of the accelerators you can use to jump start a program is to leverage a patron, an idea

    What is a patron? In this context, a patron is someone who’s willing to “sponsor” your social identity into a circle of influence and trust. This can be something as simple as someone retweeting your content on a consistent basis to their audience, or something as complex as having an advisor coach you through the beginning of building your audience.

    Do you need a patron? No, of course not. You can accomplish audience-building entirely on your own by combining paid social media with organic content, and leveraging all of the marketing methods that we know and love. Patrons just accelerate the process by brokering relationships and making connections faster.

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    How do you find a patron? If you’re considering that avenue, look at your social graph, the people you’re connected to. Who is already talking about the things you want to talk about? Who has an audience that’s like the one you want? Who is reachable? Here’s one potential method: While social media influence scores are terrible KPIs and should never be used to measure the success of a program, they are a useful hint for the level of difficulty you might have in reaching someone.

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    If you’re starting out and you’ve got a score of 1, the 1-10 bracket is probably the first group of people you can do outreach to, to build your base. As your network grows, reach up into the next bracket. For example, if your score is 15, look to reach out to people in the 20-29 bracket. Connect with them, share their stuff, provide them value first, and after you’ve established a relationship, make whatever ask you’re planning on making.

    To Mark Schaefer’s recent point, no one is holding you down, but there are lots of people who can lift you up if you’re smart and targeted in your approach.

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  • Where to find me at Social Media Marketing World

    As many others are, I’ll be attending and speaking at Social Media Marketing World. If you’d like to talk about how I and SHIFT Communications can help your company with all things social (especially measurement, analytics, and down-funnel marketing), data-driven public relations, come find me and say hello!

    Wednesday:

    Evening reception on the USS Midway. Look for the guy avoiding crowds and instead checking out World War II weaponry. I anticipate being difficult to find.

    Thursday:

    Invisible in the morning. Floating around during the afternoon. If you want to say hello, any time in the afternoon is fine, just tweet at @cspenn.

    Friday:

    8 AM Keynote with Mark Schaefer, Guy Kawasaki, and Mari Smith. We’ll be talking whether content is killing social media or vice versa.

    10:45 AM in Seaport H, How to use analytics to predict future social media marketing opportunities. This is my solo talk on predictive analytics. You’ll walk out knowing some brand new ways to use tools that you already own or can afford out of pocket.

    11:45 AM in Seaport C, I’ll be moderating a panel with Susan Beebe, Dan Gingiss, and Chuck Hemann titled, “How to measure what matters and communicate it to the execs, managers, and the front line”. To be perfectly honest, I won’t be saying much in this session. Why? Because I despise the uncommon but annoying panel moderators who think it’s their job to talk for half the panel’s time because they couldn’t earn a solo session. The moderator’s there mainly to end fights and/or fill dead time when the audience fails to ask questions.

    Hope to see you there! If you want to chat but for some reason can’t get a hold of me, contact me through SHIFT.

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  • Opportunity cost and assisted conversions

    In the last post, I emphasized picking your marketing strengths and putting your focus behind a chosen few methods. This is leveraging opportunity cost, the cost of doing one thing and not doing something else.

    Every choice in life has an opportunity cost:

    When you eat at restaurant X, you’re not eating at restaurant Y or at home.

    When you watch television, the time you spend watching TV is time you could have spent on something else.

    When you focus on SEO as an inbound marketing method, the time you spend optimizing your site is time you could have been sending email or tweeting.

    Thus, by choosing strong marketing methods that work for you over weak methods that don’t work for you, you’re minimizing opportunity cost. You’re investing what time you have in the things that work best.

    Is it really that cut and dried? Just pick a few marketing methods and go? No. There is more to the story about what works best.

    In order to understand what’s really working, we must acknowledge the way people make decisions. Except for small, risk-free transactions, people need some level of consideration. Eavesdrop on a couple deciding where to go for dinner and you’ll know all you need to know about how lengthy the consideration process can be.

    How do you pick your strengths, given how complex the consideration process can be? This is the magic of Google Analytics’ assisted conversions.

    Assisted conversions, if you’re unfamiliar, are touchpoints in the conversion process that help a conversion, but aren’t the last thing that someone did. Someone viewing a tweet may not convert right then, but may convert a few days later. In an analytics tool that understands assisted conversions, the tweet will be given partial credit for the conversion, even though it wasn’t the tipping point.

    Look carefully in Assisted Conversions, using Source/Medium as your primary view, and you’ll see a more nuanced view of how people convert:

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    One of the simple tricks I like to do is to add up assisted conversions and last touch conversions in a spreadsheet. I’ll make a column called Total Conversions to get the biggest possible picture of what’s converting:

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    I’ve got a more complete view of what my marketing strengths are by total conversions. Now I can make informed choices about opportunity cost and what’s truly working.

    Picking what you’re strong at and making opportunity cost choices is the right way to go; just be sure you’re using all of the available information possible.

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  • Being louder isn’t the answer

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    When you want to hit a target, do you walk up to it with a large hammer and hit it? Or do you nock an arrow and pierce it with a well-aimed shot?

    When you want to amplify the flavor of a dish, do you add more of every ingredient? Or do you find a particular spice, a specific flavor, and add just more of that?

    When you want to be heard in a loud room, do you simply shout louder? Or do you whistle, tap a glass, or even sing one musical note?

    All three of these are examples of how to apply force in a focused way to generate an effective result. As the digital space gets noisier, more crowded, and more complex, your ability to scale, to be everywhere, diminishes commensurately.

    To be heard, to be seen, to be sensed, you must find a point to put your strength behind. Is Facebook your thing? Go all in on it, and give less and less to the things that aren’t your strength.

    Try this simple test. Open your Google Analytics. Find your traffic acquisition by Source/Medium (Acquisition > All Traffic > Source/Medium):

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    Look at the top 10 things generating traffic to your site, assuming that traffic is a significant goal. Consider all of the things you do every day that aren’t on this list. What’s the opportunity cost of doing those things versus doing more of the things above that are clearly working?

    Play to your strengths. The alternative is to dabble, exert a little focus everywhere, and get nowhere.

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  • What home improvement stores should teach you about buying marketing technology

    Ever gone to a big-box home improvement store? I certainly have. They’re a DIYer’s paradise most of the time. My favorite section is usually the sharp objects portion of the store, where the knives, axes, machetes, and other pointy things are kept.

    When you’re in the store looking for tools or supplies, how do you decide what to buy?

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    I recently bought a new electric screwdriver; this is the general process of how that happened. First, you have to get a sense of where to look. Screwdrivers and refrigerators aren’t going to be in the same section. Taxonomy counts! Once you’re in the correct general section of the store, you look up to find the aisle you should be in. After you locate the aisle, you find the section of shelf that contains the products you want.

    Once you’re at the shelf, how do you determine what’s the best tool to buy? Most people, like me, first look at the prices. What can I or can’t I afford? Not much point looking at DeWalt if you can only afford Ryobi. After you’ve found the price bracket that you can afford, you start comparing features in that set:

    • How many volts does the screwdriver have?
    • What kind of battery?
    • Most important to me, what warranty is on the box? Manufacturers generally make warranties last only as long as they expect the tool to last. A product with a 1 year warranty means that in the lab, in 366 days the product probably fails.

    For tools, which are things I tend to break in fairly short order, warranty is the feature that makes or breaks what I buy in my price bracket.

    Compare this to how we select marketing tools. Is the process similar? I’d argue that many marketers begin the process lost. They’re not even in the right section of the store or looking at the right aisle. A fair few marketers I’ve talked to ask about analytics tools when they’re really talking about monitoring tools. They ask about media tools but their goals are really lead generation. If you’re selling people marketing tools, or if you’re buying marketing tools, know what section of the store you need to be in. I strongly recommend thinking of Scott Brinker’s MarTech landscape as a map of the marketing tools store:

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    Once you know you’re in the right section, think about how we normally buy and then think about how vendors sell. Vendors sell by pushing features and benefits hard, and a fair few dodge any question on price. I’ve even had a vendor say that they don’t discuss pricing until after a demo. Almost needless to say, that vendor never got a followup call.

    Work with vendors who disclose their pricing up front so you know what you can and can’t afford. Finally, once you’ve narrowed down the pricing bracket, decide what feature is going to be most important – and that the vendor provides it.

    For example, I recently tried Act-On Software, a marketing automation tool. The tool seemed promising, but Act-On’s main benefit was their support and on-boarding. This was a mismatch. I’m a highly technical user; I wanted them to give me the setup information like SPF records, then get out of my way so I could speed through setup and be productive immediately. They wanted to hand hold me through the process and refused to give me the data I wanted until after I finished the on-boarding process and training. I canceled the service within a week. Is their service bad? No. It’s just not the way I work. It’d be like a screwdriver that required me to complete a tutorial before using it. Some people would want that and absolutely love it if products worked like that. I’d return it immediately.

    This comparison to how you normally shop should give you an idea of how to more carefully evaluate marketing technology vendors:

    • Make sure you’re in the right section of the store.
    • Find the price bracket you can afford.
    • Look for the key feature that’s most important to you and see which product has the most of it.

    With that, your marketing technology tool selection should be a little easier!

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  • The big news is over at SHIFT

    No blog post from me today. Why? The big news is over at SHIFT. I’m super proud of our agency for achieving a milestone that I’ve personally been pursuing for years now. Go read.

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  • Combine Bitly, Google Analytics, and Google Sheets for Winning Metrics Analysis

    I was asked recently by Social Media Examiner for my top social media tool recommendation for 2015, as a lead up to my talk at Social Media Marketing World. Here’s what I came up with:

    When you combine Google Spreadsheets with the Google Analytics plugin and Bit.ly’s out-of-the-box integration, you have a powerful, free analytics dashboard solution. Everything’s in one place, and as a bonus, you can customize the reporting to incorporate more than one Google Analytics profile. That’s a significant help for consultants with more than one client.

    James McCarthy followed up to ask:

    “I just watched a Google video and saw how to enable the Analytics plug-in with Spreadsheets. Seems straightforward enough. How to go the next step and do the Bitly integration? Thank you.”

    Bitly’s role is to determine how many things you’ve shared that get clicks. While Google Analytics will tell you what social posts drove traffic to your website that you’ve shared, it won’t tell you about the overall engagement of your shared content, which presumably contains links to other sites as well as your own. Bitly helps to solve this by reporting on how many clicks any Bitly link gets, regardless of when it’s shared, or who it’s shared by.

    This is driven by Bitly’s integration with Google Spreadsheets, the documentation for which can be found here. You’ll need a free access token from Bitly’s developer page to make the magic happen.

    For example, in this spreadsheet, I’ve pasted all of the Bitly links I’ve shared in the last couple of weeks:

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    The formula in the cell V5 above is:
    =IF(ISURL(B5), IMPORTDATA(CONCATENATE(“https://api-ssl.bitly.com/v3/
    link/clicks?format=txt&unit=day&units=-1&rollup=true&access_token=”, ACCESSTOKEN, “&link=”, B5)), “”)

    If I can’t remember what a link is, I can use the expander function in the Bitly API to re-lengthen the shortened URLs:

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    The formula in the cell above is:
    =IF(ISURL(B5), IMPORTDATA(CONCATENATE(“https://api-ssl.bitly.com/v3/
    expand?format=txt&access_token=”, ACCESSTOKEN, “&shortUrl=”, B5)), “”)

    And if I want to see what’s been re-shared and on which social network, I can use the Shares function in the Bitly API (admittedly not real clean, since it spits back raw JSON):

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    The formula in the cell above is:
    =IF(ISURL(B5), IMPORTDATA(CONCATENATE(“https://api-ssl.bitly.com/v3/
    link/shares?access_token=”, ACCESSTOKEN, “&link=”, B5)), “”)

    Anyone who’s got a method for cleaning up raw JSON inside a Google Sheet, please leave it in the comments!

    With the Bitly API and Google Spreadsheets, you can construct a fairly impressive dashboard and identify things like the most reshared content, the links that get the most engagement, and so much more. The entire reason for using Google Sheets is so that you can have tabs for all your Google Analytics data and Bitly data, then roll up just key analysis points onto a separate sheet or even workbook.

    I can sort my Bitly links by click and identify the topics, by link, that get the most engagement vs. the topics that get crickets. From there, I can make a decision whether to focus more on certain topics to boost overall social media engagement. Blended with Google Analytics data, I can also see whether the most popular topics are resulting in actual conversions down-funnel or not, a critical point!

    Thanks for the great question, James.

    Disclosure: Bitly is a client of my employer, SHIFT Communications. I receive indirect financial benefit derived from them being a paying client. Bitly did not provide any assistance or resources for this blog post, nor did they ask me to write about them.

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  • How to market your podcast, part 5: Measuring success

    Podcasting has found new favor with the marketing world. Marketers are creating podcasts left and right, but are spending so much time on creating it that they forget to market it. This series is for you, so that people listen or watch your new creation.

    Posts in the How to Market Your Podcast series:

    Interested in a real-life example? Check out my marketing podcast, Marketing Over Coffee!

    In today’s installment, let’s talk about measuring the success of your podcast. It’s one of the most controversial and tricky areas of podcasting. In podcasting, there are 4 sets of metrics that you likely have access to: feed/file, reach, web, and marketing metrics. We’ll dive in from the top.

    Feed/File Metrics

    Feed and file download metrics are the earliest form of podcast metric. They are essentially the number of times your digital files have been downloaded and the number of people subscribed to your RSS feed. While basic in nature and easy to understand, they’re highly unreliable for two main reasons: caching and completion. Many services such as iTunes, Stitcher Radio, and other podcast listening software will make a copy of your episodes and serve them from their servers. This reduces load on your server, which is not a bad thing. However, one copy made of a file from your server can be played hundreds or thousands of times, and you won’t know.

    Completion is the second reason why feed metrics are unreliable. Just because someone’s subscribed to your show or downloaded your episodes doesn’t mean they’ve listened to you. Here’s an example from the Freakonomics Podcast that’s on my phone:

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    As you can see above, I’ve listened to none of these episodes yet. However, they still count as downloads. If you’re trying to gauge the success of your show, it’s relatively easy to see how misleading feed and file numbers can be.

    Reach Metrics

    Reach metrics are the top of the audience and media funnel:

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    • How many people in your audience have you exposed to your material?
    • How many have engaged?
    • How many have clicked on a podcast player in your Twitter feed, for example?

    These numbers will come from a variety of sources like social media listening tools, Twitter and Facebook audience tools, and can be part of your overall podcast analytics package. If you’ve got a huge social following but no one clicks on anything, then you don’t have much reach into your audience.

    Web Metrics

    Downstream from audience and engagement metrics are things like web analytics. Assuming you’ve set up the basic content infrastructure for your podcast, you should have web analytics available to tell you how people are finding your show and how often they stick around.

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    All of the basic web analytics metrics apply, such as new and returning visitors, form fills, and pageview/engagement times.

    Business Metrics

    Finally, down funnel even further are your business impact metrics. Who did something meaningful such as sign up for an email newsletter, ask to speak to a sales representative, or even buy something? Here’s an example of my on-site survey asking people how they heard about me, personally:

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    For this survey period, 2 out of the 13 people who filled out the survey indicated that my podcast was part of the way they found me. That’s fairly compelling.

    The Big Picture

    Each of these metrics should be lined up in a dashboard or report so that you can see – and your advertisers/sponsors can see – what kind of numbers you’ve got. I’ve taken metrics from each category and combined them into a spreadsheet, then charted it out for a big picture view of the health of the show:

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    What do we see?

    • [1] is the subscriber count. We’re looking for direction here more than anything, because of the aforementioned caching and completion problems.
    • [2] is the reach number. This combines media mentions, social shares, and other measurements.
    • [3] is website traffic, straight out of Google Analytics.
    • [4] is email list subscriber growth, the number of people signed up for the Marketing Over Coffee mailing list. Again, looking for trend here.

    I could add in all kinds of other metrics, too, such as LinkedIn group members, Twitter followers, sponsor revenue, etc. in their appropriate buckets, but this is more an example than anything. When you do this for yourself, you will almost certainly have to resort to pulling all the data together in a spreadsheet. There are just too many data sources that aren’t connected to each other to build an all-in-one dashboard that isn’t custom-made.

    Advanced Big Picture

    Using the visualization and analysis techniques from my book Marketing Blue Belt, I can take the above data and figure out what the trends are:

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    The blue lines were simplified into 14 day moving averages for visual clarity. The black lines put atop them are trend lines (2 degree polynomial fitting) that show the general momentum of each data series. What does this tell me? The top two series, subscribers and reach, are going in the wrong direction. The bottom two lines, web analytics and email list growth, are doing okay. Thus, from this analysis, I should spend more time growing the audience in order to restore momentum there.

    Wrapup

    Each individual metric above has issues. Combined, they can paint a picture that gives us some sense of what to do and whether things are going in the right direction or not. There are more advanced podcast metrics available, but typically out of reach for smaller shows like mine. Tom Webster and his team at Edison Research have the scoop on the top shelf stuff.

    This also concludes our how to market your podcast series. I’ll have either a book or webinar (or both) coming at some point in the future, but for now, this is a good start. Thanks for reading, and be sure to tune into Marketing Over Coffee!

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