Christopher S. Penn – Marketing AI Keynote Speaker

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  • You Ask, I Answer: How to Handle SEO Backlinks With Low Authority?

    You Ask, I Answer: How to Handle SEO Backlinks With Low Authority?

    Joao asks, “What should we do when you have a lot of backlinks but most of them are with low authority? Since they are lowering our authority should we remove them or leave them and keep trying to get new backlinks?”

    If you have a lot of low quality backlinks, it depends on how you got them. If you got them through shady means, you should remove and disavow them. If you got them through normal means, they’re not going to cause harm, but they’re just low quality. The best thing to do is focus on getting new, high quality backlinks.

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    In today’s episode, Joao, asks, What should we do when you have a lot of backlinks, but most of them are with low authority since they are lowering our authority? Should we remove them or leave them and keep trying to get new backlinks? So this is an SEO question.

    The short answer is, it depends on the quality of the backlinks and how you got them.

    If you got them using not so good means, right? You were, you know, Link spamming and stuff like that, and you know, you’re running a bot to pollute people’s blogs, then not only should you remove them, but you also probably need to disavow them to say, hey, we’re not we’re not doing those shady practices anymore, please ignore the links that, you know, you were able to create through less than, less than generally accepted means.

    If the links that you have that we’re referring to are just, you know, they’re low authority, low quality right now, but they were obtained through normal means, you know, pitching websites, it doesn’t, they’re not going to cause harm, right, they’re not going to be, they’re not going to show up as something suspicious looking, they’re just gonna look like low quality links.

    And Google has gotten really good at understanding the network graph around inbound links, and deciding what is and is not relevant.

    So your time and effort there really is best spent on getting new stuff, getting new people to link to you.

    And a big part of the reason why you have a lot of low authority links, is because you don’t really have anything worth linking to.

    Right? It’s not the level of quality that would make very high authority websites.

    Uh, yeah, we want to we want to share that with our audience, right, we that is what you got there is really important.

    The reality is, unfortunately, a lot of content doesn’t merit that a lot of contents like it’s okay, but it’s not great.

    In fact, in Google’s search quality rating guidelines, one of the phrases they have for mediocre content, which I always I find very informative as to their point of view, is it’s called nothing wrong, but nothing special.

    Right? Imagine having your content described like that.

    Nothing wrong, but nothing special.

    Generating links from high authority sites, is all about having something special having something people can’t get anywhere else having something that people really want.

    What is that, I mean, it can possibly be an infographic depending on it, or an ebook, or a webinar or a video or a really long blog post or original research, there’s so many tactics that you can use to create high quality content.

    But it has to be something special, right? One of the things that always bothers me about a lot of these these cold pitches I get from all these, you know, content creation companies is like, we will create high quality authoritative blog posts for you.

    You look at their their output, like okay, what you and your software, and I’m pretty sure you’re just using AI to generate what you’ve created is okay.

    But it firmly falls in the category of nothing wrong, but nothing special.

    There’s nothing special about what these content mills are cranking out what is special, creating something that people can’t get anywhere else.

    Right.

    One of the things for example, before pride month, every year, I pulled a whole bunch of data from the FBI is the uniform crime reporting database and from a few other resources, and put together sort of a state of hate crimes against the LGBTQ community that doesn’t exist in most other places, right? That is special enough content that people in that community link to it because it’s useful.

    It’s helpful.

    It’s informative, and it’s special.

    It’s different.

    In the the weekly newsletter that I put together for Trust Insights, there’s fresh data of some kind every week, I call it data diaries.

    And again, it’s something that ideally is special, you know, the amount of hate speech used on Twitter, or Instagram engagement for influencers, something that, again, it’s special, and it would would merit someone at a higher authority site linking to us.

    So the first thing you do when you’ve got a lot of backlinks that have low authority is you improve your content, make something special, and then you can go out and pitch it and you’ll probably have a lot more success pitching it.

    Because people want it.

    People want special stuff.

    They want unique stuff.

    They want stuff that is new is different is is valuable.

    So much of the content that we see now is it’s not any of those things 15 Tips for improving your email marketing.

    Write an email that people want to read, you know, do your deliverability protocols send it from a recognizable names and at the same time every week call you again, nothing wrong, but nothing special.

    Something special would be, hey, try putting a gigantic unsubscribe button in your email at the very top so that people can’t miss it.

    That is something that’s different.

    That’s That’s unique.

    That’s special.

    Right? So make special stuff.

    Again, that’s easier said than done.

    It requires thinking out of the box.

    It requires a client that is willing to take risks.

    It requires creativity, true creativity to find what else somebody has.

    Generally a creative but doesn’t exist yet otherwise in the world.

    You know, for example, on YouTube, Leo Moore actually is this creator.

    He’s a musician and he takes songs and turns them into heavy metal songs.

    They took John Denver’s country roads made it heavy metal and it’s it’s exactly what you expect it to be.

    It’s special.

    It’s different.

    You go look and go wow, that it’s that is different.

    And then you’re after the couple of times watching like okay, that’s pretty awesome.

    That’s that’s starting to grow on me.

    Find your thing, find the thing that only you can do.

    My, my former boss and friend Todd Devon used to say in public relations, which has a very significant overlap with SEO.

    There’s three things you can be first best or only, you know, the first it’s something the best is something or the only thing person that does something if you want to get PR.

    The same is true with SEO with backlinks first best only if you’ve got the news.

    First, you’ll get links.

    If you got the best quality stuff, you’ll get links.

    And if you’re the only place to get something, you’ll get links, but you’ve got to be at least one of those things.

    Ideally, two, you know, two out of three, be the first and the only at something and that will get you the links from the higher authority sites that you want.

    Good question.

    Thanks for asking.

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  • Mind Readings: Cooking Class or Kitchen Tour?

    Mind Readings: Cooking Class or Kitchen Tour?

    When it comes to content creation, it’s important to consider whether you want to provide a kitchen tour or a cooking class. A kitchen tour is a good way to show off all the different tools and appliances you use, but it’s not going to be super helpful if your audience doesn’t already know how to cook. A cooking class, on the other hand, will provide more focused instruction on how to use those tools to make a specific dish. As a content creator, you need to consider what your audience wants and produce the content that will be most helpful to them.

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    In today’s episode, let’s talk about cooking classes and kitchen tours.

    I was recently partnered up with Neil Patel on a webinar we did for an organization and the content of the webinar was, was good, it was fun, it was a lot of fun to do on SEO and where SEO and data science are going and how they can work together coming into 2023.

    But one of the things that struck me as we were delivering the material, as we were putting it together and delivering the material was that it was sort of a landscape review, here’s the general process, an outline for the major SEO tool categories, then, a list of Here are the tools within this category.

    And afterwards, when I looked at it, when I looked at the content, it occurred to me that we’d really kind of given a kitchen tour.

    You know, invite people into a chef’s kitchen and say, Okay, here’s check out all these cool appliances and tools and some nice ingredients we use and things and maybe a quick cooking demo or quick tasting.

    But for the most part, people got a chance to see the inner workings of the kitchen right here’s the keep the produce here’s the blender we use those the bread machine that we use, etc.

    But if you were looking for how to cook a specific dish, a kitchen tours not going to be super helpful, right? A kitchen drawer is gonna be like, Oh, cool.

    You use Viking or KitchenAid or whatever brand, or here’s how it maybe you have your your kitchen layout done.

    It’s not, hey, my, my bread is not rising.

    How do I fix this? Right in the context of SEO, here’s a bunch of different keyword tools.

    Well, keyword tools are cool, they’re important, they are useful.

    But they are a tool, like a spatula, or frying pan.

    If you don’t know how to cook, these things are not helpful.

    If you don’t know how to cook, knowing the difference between an anodized aluminum pan, a stainless steel pan and a cast iron pan isn’t super helpful.

    Like it’s an important difference.

    But if you can’t cook at all, it’s not going to help.

    If you’re sitting there saying, Well, I’ve got this carton of eggs, what do I do with them? kitchen tour is not going to be super helpful.

    So one of the things that we have to be careful of as marketers as professionals, as content creators, is understanding the intent of our audience.

    When does our audience want a kitchen tour? Or when does our audience want a cooking class? Right? We’re talking about things like data science.

    Yeah, there’s a gazillion and a half different tools and packages and libraries.

    I can follow the mouth for hours on end to use this package.

    I use it for this in our or here’s this, you know, library in Python that you can use.

    But that’s a kitchen tour.

    If you’re saying I’ve got a bunch of tweets that I need to process.

    A kitchen tour won’t help you.

    What you want is a cooking class saying I’ve got this raw ingredient, what can I do with it? I’ve got these these tweets, how do I process them? And then we would step through? Okay, well, let’s load them up, make sure they’re distinct.

    Make sure that you have quantitative data in there of some kind, let’s do some natural language processing, split them into unit grams and by grams, and then run frequency analysis to figure out which are the most common phrases or common words.

    In this corpus, which was the most important based on the quantitative data you included? That’s more like a cooking class to say, Okay, let’s take this thing and specifically cook this dish.

    cooking classes are a lot more work, they are much more focused, they require more of the participant of the audience.

    And depending on the skill the presented, they may not be super compelling, right? Think about on TV, when you’re watching Cooking shows, if you watch cooking shows, you’ll see people talk about some of the process and then magically, they’ll pull an oven, a dish out of the oven say hadn’t here’s the final result.

    We all know it’s takes three and a half hours to cook that thing, of course, we’re gonna got to sit on on TV and watch and wait for three and a half hours for that.

    But in the omission of the process, you know, that part of the process, we don’t know what things might have gone right or wrong.

    So as we think about our, the content we create, when somebody wants to a kitchen tour, when they want to see if what they’ve got in their kitchen matches up with yours, or if they want to see if there’s any tools they could be using that are better than what you’ve got.

    But they probably should already be cooking.

    They probably already are doing the task, whatever the task is, they probably should be doing it already and be proficient with the tools that they have so that they can then see is this tool that you’re putting in front of me or that we see In this in this training is quantitatively better, right? For example, if you’re using a standard keyword tool and you see the market Muse system for doing semantic keywords, if you know how to do keyword analysis, you look at that and go, Wow, that’s better.

    That no question that is a better tool.

    And then you could make the decision like, yes, I want to go by that tool, or No, I don’t want to go by that tool.

    But at least if you know your own kitchen, you look at that tool and go, that’s a that’s a better tool.

    If you don’t know how to cook.

    It’s hard to make that decision.

    So from our end, as professionals, we first have to figure out do we want to kitchen toward we want a cooking class.

    From as content producers, we have to figure out what our audience wants and then produce the content that’s going to be the most helpful to them.

    Kitchen tours, from a creative standpoint, kitchen tours are a good way to attract attention to then guide people into specific cooking classes, right.

    So if you’re creating content as a creator, that the kitchen tour will check a lot of boxes and be very flashy.

    But then people will get the value out of the cooking class.

    So if you’re doing email marketing, the kitchen tour, here’s all the vendors to help you with your deliverability and your semantic word choice and stuff is fun.

    And then the cooking classes.

    Okay, let’s take a look at your emails and see how to make them better.

    So which are you interested in? kitchen tour, a cooking class? Which is your audience interested in? And what are you producing? give that some thought.

    Thanks for tuning in.

    Catch you next time.

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  • Mind Readings: AI Bill of Rights, Part 5: Human Alternatives, Consideration, and Fallback

    Mind Readings: AI Bill of Rights, Part 5: Human Alternatives, Consideration, and Fallback

    The proposed AI Bill of Rights is a good start, but there is still a long way to go. Machines should not have the presumption of innocence and should be presumed guilty until humans can prove that they are right.

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    Welcome back.

    This is the fifth and final part of our review of the AI Bill of Rights the document published by the United States White House, Office of Science, Technology and something rather, on the rights that people should have when it comes to dealing with AI.

    Today is human alternatives, consideration and fallback.

    So let’s dig into this.

    You should be able to opt out where appropriate and have access to a person who can quickly consider and remedy problems you encounter, you should be able to opt out from automated systems in favor of a human alternative, where appropriate, appropriateness should be determined based on reasonable expectations in a given context.

    And with a focus on ensuring broad accessibility and protecting the public from especially harmful impacts.

    In some cases, a human or other alternative may be required by law.

    So this is a case where it’s human in the loop.

    A human being should be able to interrupt an AI system or override it at any given point in time, right? If the system does something dumb, a person should be able to walk over to it and just push a big red override button say, Nope, you made a mistake.

    A I’m overriding this be you need to learn from this mistake and and retrain and rebuild the model.

    Alternatively, a human being or human decision makers have got to be able to hit the stop button and say, Okay, we’re just turning this thing off.

    This system is not working, it’s creating negative outcomes.

    It’s worse than then people it’s worse than not nothing at all.

    So let’s turn this thing off.

    Let’s look at a couple of the examples that are listed in this paper.

    Number one, an automated signature matching system is used as part of the voting process, and many parts of the country to determine whether the signature on a mail in ballot matches the signature on file.

    These signature matching systems are less likely to work correctly for some voters, including voters have mental or physical disabilities, voters with shorter or hyphenated names and voters who have changed the name, a human curing process, which helps voters confirm this signatures and correct other voting mistakes is important to ensure all votes are counted.

    And as already standard practice as much of the country for both an election official.

    And the voters have the opportunity to review and correct any such issues.

    Yeah, AI is one place I don’t want to even touching politics, right? I am totally fine with old school paper, not even machine just good old school paper.

    Because at least in the United States, electoral politics is now so toxic and so polarized, that there are a variety of players attempting to suppress votes, doing things like closing polling stations, in areas where their party of preference does not have a mathematical advantage.

    You know, imposing all sorts of fraudulent laws that suppresses voting, running ads telling people of a sort of, you know, certain racial backgrounds that the elections on the wrong day.

    AI has absolutely no business being in politics zero.

    Just just doesn’t.

    Number two, and unemployment benefit system Colorado required as a condition of accessing benefits that applicants have a smartphone in order to verify their identity.

    No alternative human option was readily available, which denied many people access to their benefits.

    That’s dumb.

    Not everyone has a smartphone.

    Number three, a fraud detection system for unemployment insurance distribute distributions incorrectly flagged entries as fraudulent, leading to people with slight discrepancies or complexities in their files having their wages withheld, and tax returns seized without any chance to explain themselves or receive a review by a person.

    Number four, a patient was wrongly denied access to pain medication when the hospital software confused her medication history with that of her dogs.

    Yeah, you know, I love technology.

    I love data science and machine learning and artificial intelligence.

    But if your system is so bad that you can’t tell the history in a human patient and a dog, you should not be using technology you should be doing everything the old fashioned way because wow.

    Even after she tracked down an explanation for the problem, doctors were afraid to override the system and she was forced to go without pain relief due to the system’s error.

    Number five a large corporation automated performance evaluation and other HR functions leading to workers being fired by an automated system without possibility of human review appeal or other form of recourse I have a fairly good idea which Corporation This is, they ship a lot of things and their trucks are outside your house fairly often.

    Okay.

    All of this is human in the loop stuff all this is making sure that human beings have primacy have the last word in any AI system whether it is medication systems performance evaluations, marketing automation, lead scoring at the end of the day.

    A human has to have the last word if you have systems or you are building systems where the system is making decisions and a human cannot say, Nope, you’ve got a bad system.

    Right? If you’re afraid of the system, you’re afraid to override it, you’ve got a bad system, right? Everyone who’s using a piece of machine learning, or any automation, frankly, should be 100%.

    comfortable saying, Wow, that was really dumb.

    Let’s not do that again.

    Now, obviously, you do want some protections for people maliciously doing that, right? You don’t want people correcting or changing a system that is making correct decisions because of their own biases.

    But generally speaking, the systems are probably going to make more mistakes than the humans are.

    And at the end of the day, a human being should be the one saying, No, this is this is dumb.

    This is this is not working as intended.

    Take a look at your lead scoring in your marketing automation system.

    Do you know how it works? Do you have the ability to override it? You know, can you say I’m going to manually adjust the score higher because I know this person that could be a good customer, or I know this person, and they’ve got all the buying signals, but ain’t never gonna buy anything.

    It was put their lead score is zero.

    And the system would be like, Well, no, they’re showing all these buying signals like No, I know this person, he’s never going to buy a bloody thing from us to just hit put at minus 1000, then no one ever talked to him again.

    We all know people like that we all know situations like that.

    And our systems have to be able to accommodate us, right? There is something to be said for change management for using automated systems and taking advantage of them and becoming comfortable with change.

    But there’s also something to be said for change management and the other direction requiring a system to obey humans.

    When you start turning over decision functions to machines that you cannot override, you have no say over bad things happen.

    Right, we had to see plenty of examples, from the paper of bad things happening because people didn’t have the ability to push a big red stop button.

    When you look, for example, in the automotive industry, look at Toyota’s production system.

    And the assembly line, every employee on the assembly line has the ability to stop the line.

    Now something has to be wrong, right.

    You can’t just do it for fun.

    But every employee has the authority to stop the line if they see that something has gone wrong.

    That is not true at all artificial intelligence systems, right.

    But it has to be a prerequisite for any system, we deploy that there has got to be a stop button that anybody can hit and require inspection require investigation.

    When you get an email into your customer service inbox saying a customer had trouble buying something online, you should have a stop button.

    It might even be a literal stop button on your desk saying okay, let’s take the system down and figure out what has gone wrong here and is it user error or is it machine error? If it is machine error, you need to fix it sooner rather than later.

    So these have been the these five principles in the the AI Bill of Rights there.

    They are generally very sound safe and effective systems.

    Algorithmic discrimination protections, data privacy notice an explanation, human alternatives, consideration or fallback.

    These are good ideas.

    And again, many of them are already implemented in law in some fashion, right, particularly around the data privacy stuff, discrimination based on biases.

    But I think where the US government was going with this document, what in particular was putting it all together? In the context of AI, we cannot build artificial intelligence systems.

    Without these considerations, and a big part of our responsibility as data scientists, as marketers, as business owners, is to make sure that someone is asking questions from each of these five categories all the time, in every system, we build saying, hey, what could go wrong? Right? What’s How could this be misused? How could this go off the rails? How could the model not function like it’s supposed to? And what can we do to prevent that from happening? What are the realistic scenarios where a system is going to just blow up on us? What are the realistic scenarios where someone’s going to get screwed over that we did not mean to have that to have happen? Right? All of these things have to be part of our design process, our development process and our deployment process.

    And if they’re not, sooner or later, in one or more locales where we do business, it’s going to be illegal, right? It’s going to be illegal because there’ll be enough high profile cases where somebody did something wrong.

    Machines are not people, right? A person a human being in most democratic nations had this sort of presumption of innocence.

    You are innocent until proven guilty.

    That does not apply to machines.

    And in fact, I would argue the reverse should be true of machines and machines shouldn’t be presumed guilty of doing something wrong until humans can prove that it’s doing something right that it’s not violating laws.

    And I think that’s the one part that’s missing from this is that when it comes to machines who don’t have feelings of the egos to be hurt, there is no presumption of innocence.

    And as business leaders, we should not presume that the machine is right.

    We should presume the machine is wrong until we can prove that it is right.

    And we take that perspective with us.

    As we make our own AI journeys to AI maturity and deployment, we will do better, we will we will create better outcomes.

    When we work with vendors, who are building systems on our behalf of running systems on our behalf The same applies, we presume that the vendors systems are wrong until the vendor proves that it is right.

    That’s the approach we should all be taking.

    Just because it looks cool, or looks expensive, or has fancy charts, doesn’t mean it’s right.

    I’m in the midst of a coding project right now building an attribution model on Google Analytics 4.

    I am using a certain type of machine learning technology.

    I looked at the results.

    This is not right.

    Something is wrong here.

    It just didn’t pass the sniff test doesn’t pass existing system tests.

    It looks good.

    It looks nice.

    It looks expensive.

    But it’s not right.

    And just because it looks good doesn’t mean that a machine deserves presumption of innocence machines do not deserve the presumption of innocence.

    Hey, humans do machines do not? So that’s our wrap up and review of the AI Bill of Rights.

    What are your thoughts on these five categories? How do you feel about them? Do they make sense to you? Do you think that this proposed legislative agenda is going in the right direction? Do you feel like it’s not enough? I personally feel like it’s it’s falling short and for years.

    It’s a good start, but there’s a long ways to go for me.

    Thanks for tuning in.

    I’ll see you next time.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Infographic Tactics in 2022?

    You Ask, I Answer: Infographic Tactics in 2022?

    Adrienne asks, “I’ve seen some good examples of Data and the use of infographics in Pr and lends themselves to social. Still a tactic in 2022?”

    Tactics always work. It’s how well they’re executed that matters. Infographics are just a tactic and if done well, they can be very effective. However, if the data is invalid or if the infographic is confusing, it will not be effective.

    You Ask, I Answer: Infographic Tactics in 2022?
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    In this episode and asks candy corn yes or no? Now, they look like teeth and it tastes like wax.

    Next question.

    Adrian asks, I’ve seen some good examples of data and the use of infographics and public relations and social media.

    Is this still a valid tactic in 2022? Yeah.

    Well, here’s the thing about tactics, tactics always work.

    It’s how well, they’re executed that matters is how good you are at them, right? It’s like, is frying still a valid method of cooking in 2022? Yes, of course it is.

    Unless you’re an idiot.

    And you’ll you stick your hand in the fryer, the no huge under no circumstances, be frying anything.

    Infographics are just a tactic.

    They’re a method of condensing and distributing data.

    And so if you’re good at it, if you’re good at putting together something that tells a good story that is appealing to look at that is helpful and useful and valuable, it will absolutely work.

    The reason for your question is because there’s a whole bunch of people out there, particularly in the public relations field, who are really bad at infographics, they create infographics that are just confusing to look at.

    They don’t say anything, or they do say something that’s blatantly self serving, the data of the underlying data is invalid.

    This has been especially a problem with surveys, I can’t tell you the number of times that I have talked to a public relations person about serving data, and how to explain basic mathematics like, No, you can’t add up certain percentages, you just can’t do that.

    And so we have seen over the last 10 years, in particular, last really last five years, but especially the last 10 years.

    Infographics went from something novel as a format to something pretty trite.

    But that doesn’t mean they don’t work, it just means that you have to be better at them than you have in the past, you have to be really creative.

    You have to partner with good designers, right? People who are visual communicators, if that’s not you, you have to partner with really good designers to distill down and tell the kind of story you want with data, you have to, you’ve got to have good data.

    Right? If the data you’re putting together and an infographic makes no sense or is too hard to understand, which is something I’m guilty of a lot, then it doesn’t land people look at and they don’t understand it.

    One of my favorite infographics of all time that I did, was mapping the size of social networks to the Kingdoms of Westeros Game of Thrones, like, here’s how large this social network is this social network is, it was so so much fun, we actually made like a wall painting of it.

    That was pretty easy to understand.

    People could look at that and understand Oh, this is, that’s how big, you know, Facebook really is? Or how big WhatsApp really is.

    It’s the size of whatever the Lannisters controlled.

    And so it’s just a question of, of developing those storytelling skills with data.

    That makes it a working tactic.

    And again, there’s a lot of, there’s a lot of garbage.

    There’s a lot of mediocre stuff, too.

    One of the things that we don’t talk about enough in content marketing is your contents got to add value somehow.

    Right.

    One of the things that is in Google’s webmaster guidelines, the search quality rating, rater guidelines that I thought was really insightful was the middle score, which is pretty much guaranteed to not have you show up well in search.

    There was this expression they wrote says nothing wrong, but nothing special.

    Right? That is sort of like the doomed category of content in their search quality rating islands.

    Nothing wrong, but nothing special.

    When you look at an infographic that isn’t done well.

    You look at it, okay, nothing wrong with nothing special.

    And that’s I think, is the worst.

    I think I think that’s even that’s even worse than a bad infographic because a bad infographic it’s like, you know, a bad movie after a certain point.

    It’s funny, right after certain points, like, that’s so bad that it’s actually good.

    But when you get into the the territory of the mediocre, that just doesn’t stand out that doesn’t do anything like Wow, your eyes are sort of slide off into the next thing.

    And that’s really dangerous.

    That is really dangerous YouTube content marketing because again, if

    if people notice something thing, good or bad? You’ve gotten their attention for at least for a little while.

    But if you put something out that is bland that is unremarkable, you’re not gonna get any action on it no heat whatsoever.

    You won’t get critics you won’t get fans you just get nothing.

    Take a look at the feedback you get about your marketing now, in your customer service inbox, in your email inbox in your newsletter and marks in your social media.

    inboxes.

    What feedback are you getting? Are you getting people like yeah, I really enjoyed that PSA.

    Well, that was good, or that was really wrong.

    I don’t I didn’t like that.

    I think you’re wrong about that thing.

    Or are you getting nothing? Nothing but crickets.

    If you’re not getting feedback, good or bad.

    You’re you’re content marketing has fallen flat.

    And an infographic will not help that it will not fix that because whatever is fundamentally wrong with your marketing is going to spread to every tactic that you try, right? If you are working with bad ingredients, it doesn’t matter whether you fry Baker boil, it’s still bad ingredients.

    So infographics absolutely still work in 2022.

    If you’re good at them, just like email still works just like direct postal mail still works.

    If you’re good at it in 2022.

    The challenge is you’ve got to be good at it.

    And that is the mountain we all have to climb.

    Thanks for asking.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Standing Out in Crowded Content Marketing?

    You Ask, I Answer: Standing Out in Crowded Content Marketing?

    Ashram asks, “What is your advice for standing out in the crowd in a highly saturated content creation market? i feel like many marketers are trying this approach compared to other industries.”

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    In today’s episode, ashram asks, What is your advice for standing out in the crowd in a highly saturated content creation market? I feel like many marketers are trying this approach compared to other industries.

    Well, yeah, I mean, people have been cranking out content for a while.

    And, okay, so content is stuff, right? It’s art, it’s, you know, the written word is video, it’s audio, it’s, it’s stuff, it’s a thing.

    The value that you provide, is, what’s going to set you apart is your content more valuable than all the other people creating content, because there’s a lot of content out there in the world.

    That really sucks.

    It’s just terrible.

    I saw, there’s one blog that uses a bad neural natural language processing module to basically take other people’s blogs, rewrite them with wacky synonyms, and then publish it.

    And that’s their attempt at creating valuable content is an intellectual property violation.

    And you know, the the various lawyers have been notified.

    But it doesn’t add any value, right, rewriting somebody else’s stuff doesn’t add any value.

    So the advice that I would give is based on a sort of a slogan or phrase that my friend Todd different used to say, back when I worked at his agency, and he said, for public relations to work.

    There’s three words you have to embody.

    And you can be any one of these three, but you need at least one to be newsworthy.

    First, best, only.

    What do you first at? What are you best at? What did the only one that can do something? So look at your content? Is the content that you’re publishing? The first on topic? Right? If you were writing about NF, t’s three years ago, yeah, you are pretty close to first, particularly in your industry? Is your content objectively the best, the most research the most thorough, the most valuable? Is it hands down the single best thing anybody could read? The answer’s no, you know, then you’re not the best is your content, the only one of its kind in a way that the customer values because, yeah, you can face roll on a keyboard that’s unique.

    That’s the only one that’s kind of that’s also not really valuable.

    For example, with with Trust Insights, we publish this silly series every year, called Pumpkin Spice data analytics.

    And, to my knowledge, it is the only one of its kind, but it is always an educational piece to show what’s possible with data, what’s possible when you look at data from a space and turn it into something.

    And that stands out because nobody else is doing that.

    As somebody who’s a data scientist and works with a lot of data, I find of first best only only is the easiest for me to work with.

    Because we all sit on ridiculous amounts of data that we’re just not using, we’re not using well.

    And if we use it well, for us to unlock insights to to find things that other people can’t find.

    That makes us the only one of a kind that can look at a certain type of data and create value from it, particularly things that are cultural zeitgeist moments like, you know, pumpkin spice date analytics is a very light hearted example, a very heavy example.

    Every year, in June, just before June, just before Pride Month, we do an exhaustive analysis of crimes, hate crimes against LGBTQ folks.

    Again, that level of analysis is on the only side.

    I don’t know of any other organization that’s building the same kinds of models that we are to analyze hate crimes against the LGBTQ plus community that stands out.

    That stands out.

    I think we were also first a few years ago when we started doing that.

    But first best only is a great benchmark.

    All of them best is the hardest, right? Best is the hardest because it requires the most resources.

    If you’re writing a guide to CRM systems, well guess what? You’ve got a lot of competition.

    You’ve got a ton from competitors that have really, really really big pocket books.

    Right.

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    Good luck creating a best in class piece of content against the team [email protected] or Hubspot.

    Right.

    It’s gonna be a slog.

    So first is definitely possible if you’ve got some unique a are some unique insight into your industry that allows you to generate news that’s first.

    But I find for me only is the best way to go.

    But that’s that’s the best advice I can offer.

    First, best only to create more value to create value that stands out that people have not seen before.

    And that they look at and go, Wow, this helps me understand something or learn something or amuses me whatever the case may be.

    But really good question.

    Try that template out first, best only look at all of your content piece by piece is is the first of its kind.

    Is it the best in our industry is that the only place that you can get this information, maybe make even a little spreadsheet and just you know have three columns is still check the box next to each one and the answer if you got a whole spreadsheet and and none of your content has a first best or only check mark next to it.

    Time to sharpen the pencil.

    It’s time to start looking at what else you can do to be first best or only at something really good question.

    Thanks for asking.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Marketing and Positioning for Different Industries?

    You Ask, I Answer: Marketing and Positioning for Different Industries?

    James asks, “How is your thought process different for marketing for a well-established market/industry vs a newly discovered market/industry?”

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    In today’s episode, James asks, How is your thought process different from marketing to a well established market or industry versus a newly discovered market or industry? It I guess, from a strategic perspective, you have different problems you’re trying to solve.

    If you recall back to the August 21 edition of the almost timely newsletter, I talked about the pigs framework, right problem, impact general solution specific solution, if you can walk through that real quickly.

    Problem? Do you understand the problem as the consumer? Do you have? Do you know what the problem is? To? Do you understand the impact of the problem? If you don’t do anything about it? Three? Do you understand the general solution to the problem? Four, do you have a specific solution in mind, so if the consumer is hungry, they understand the problem with the impact that they don’t solve the problem, they get hangry, right.

    The general solution is eat something.

    And the specific solution is find something to eat that meets your your tastes and budget.

    When you’re talking about well established industries, or well established markets versus newly discovered markets, with startup markets, brand new markets, it’s a question of where you are on that spectrum, a well established mature market, everybody, or most people in that market, pretty much understand the problem, they probably understand the solution, the impact and the general solution, right.

    So they’ve got the three out of four pigs of the pigs things settled, they understand the problem, they understand the impact, they understand the general solution, where they are, as they need to figure out a specific solution.

    So they’re gonna be looking at competitors, they’re gonna be looking at you that you’re going to be looking at price.

    Because in a mature market, a lot of the times it’s a it’s a pricing war, because that if it’s really mature, the solutions in that marketplace kind of become a commodity, right? If you need marketing, automation software, there’s really not a whole lot new in the marketing automation, software space, right? There’s all these major players, there’s all these you know, there’s a bunch of startups who but you know, what the problem is, you know, what problem you’re trying to solve.

    And so you can narrow down the different vendors, based on budget price time to get up and running different features that you might need.

    In a new discovered industry in a new market.

    You may be starting at the very beginning of the pigs process, right? People may not even understand what the problem is, right? If you’ve got a new left handed smoke shifter, people might not even understand what the thing is, that is even exist for why are you here? What, what’s the point of view, if they don’t understand the problem that you say they have? For sure they don’t understand the impact.

    They’re not even looking for a solution.

    And they definitely don’t want to hear from you with your specific solution.

    So in terms of marketing, you have a lot more education to teach people, hey, this thing that you’re talking about here is a problem.

    It is going to have an impact it there is a solution to that problem.

    And we are the best solution for that.

    For example.

    prior to October 2020, Google Analytics 4 didn’t really exist.

    It was called Google App plus web.

    And Google said, No, this is in beta.

    We’re testing it out things.

    And if I had said, Hey, Google Analytics 4, this is the thing people have been like, what the heck does? What does that even mean? Right? Why? Why are we talking about this? Where did you even find this information? They wouldn’t have even understood the problem problem, of course, being that Google is going to be moving the cheese on all of us, they wouldn’t understand the impact, they wouldn’t know the solution was to start migrating and testing and getting your data into the system.

    And they certainly would not have said, Hey, Chris, please come and help, you know, get a setup on this thing.

    So that pigs framework really helps you understand the maturity of a market, the more complete the pigs framework is, the more competitive the market is, the less explaining you have to do to people, that is a problem.

    Right? You don’t have to explain to people that their, their gas car needs an oil change, right? That’s, that’s a well established problem that your car needs an oil change.

    So your marketing has to be about which of these vendors is better? There are other things like martial arts, martial arts is not new.

    It’s 1000s of years old.

    But today’s audience in today’s world may not understand what problem they’re trying to solve.

    The problem probably isn’t some guy with a spear trying to kill you.

    I mean, it happens but not not often.

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    But the problem might be, hey, I’m, you know, I’m 42 years old and I’m about to die of a heart attack because I sit at a desk for 90 hours a week or the problem might be I can’t seem to stop yelling at everybody I love because I’m under so much stress.

    And so if you’re, if if someone does, if someone knows that the problem, maybe they don’t understand the impact of the problem, right? No, no, I’m fine.

    Everything’s fine just yelling at everybody I know.

    Right? So that’s a little further down spectrum.

    Maybe they read an article that you create, then saying, hey, the general solution to not yelling at everybody you know, is to do some kind of physical exercise that also helps focus your mind.

    And then the specific solution is the martial arts school that you represent.

    So even in a mature problem space, if the audience is unaware that the problem exists, you may have a lot of educating to do use that framework to benchmark where your industry is, and where you are.

    And see what the the gap the delta is between people who understand everything, and they’re just trying to find a vendor all the way to What are you even talking about? One of the things that I always find funny is when you’re talking to a company, you’re talking to a representative.

    And you say, Who’s your competition? They say, Oh, we don’t have any competition.

    We we stand alone.

    When somebody says you don’t, they don’t have any competition that tells me that there’s not a market for what they do.

    Right? If if there was value in what they did, they would have competition.

    They if there was value in what they did, they would have a lot of competition.

    Nobody has to doubt that CRM software is valuable, right? There’s a gazillion vendors in that space.

    Nobody has to doubt that email marketing is a viable marketing channel, right? Again, a zillion vendors and services.

    But what about you know, NF T marketing? There’s there’s some vendors but there’s still not any that are household names just yet.

    What about Metaverse, vendors? Wow, that got quiet, right? There’s not a lot in that space yet.

    And as a result, that’s an indicator that the space isn’t mature.

    upside, if you can become a player in that space early on, you can gain a dominant lead in it, if it matures, if it if it comes to fruition.

    If on the other hand, it’s a no go it’s a you know, a flash in the pan, then you’ve invested a lot of money and time for for no particular benefit.

    So again, use the competition as a benchmark for the maturity of a space.

    If you understand the competition, well, you see that there is viable competition for what you do, then you can be pretty sure that someone is going to to pay money for it.

    And then from an education perspective, from a content perspective, you know, where you need to be creating content.

    So really good questions and important question and it’s a tough question to answer.

    So, thanks for asking.

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  • Mind Readings: Brand is Trust

    Mind Readings: Brand is Trust

    The role of brand is to create trust. Brand is a series of experiences and the cumulative impact, and ultimately the outcome we’re after is trust. Thus every bit of marketing that touches branding MUST be about building trust for it to succeed in the big picture.

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    In this episode, let’s talk about brand.

    What is brand? The best definition I’ve heard is by a comedian named Jay Frank back in 2006.

    He had a show back then, before YouTube shows and stuff before pot well was contemporaneous early podcasts.

    But in one of the episodes of the show, which was called the show, he said brand is the emotional aftertaste of a series of experiences.

    Brand is the emotional aftertaste of a series of experiences.

    And that expression has stuck with me for the last 16 years is such a powerful statement.

    He went on to say, that’s why you can sell grandma’s cookies, which has an emotional aftertaste.

    And that old people’s cookies is the level about that 16 years later.

    That’s brand new, there’s an emotional aftertaste.

    So what is the role of brand? And what is the role of that emotional aftertaste.

    We talked a lot about in marketing, branding, and brand campaigns and brand building and stuff.

    But what does that actually mean? I would submit that the role of brand is to create trust.

    Brand is a series of experiences.

    That emotional aftertaste and the cumulative impact.

    But the emotional aftertaste we’re after is trust affinity, right? Ultimately, a transaction, a sale revenue, a customer is a statement of trust, I open up my wallet and I give you money.

    And I give you this money.

    And you give me the service or this product.

    Ultimately, I’m trusting you with this representation of my time and effort, right? These things.

    Right, these things, oh, the fifth column calls them power coupons, which I think is a kind of a fun way of thinking about them.

    But these things are your time, your knowledge, your effort, all condensed and flattened into a two dimensional object, mostly two dimensional object, right? This is your effort.

    In the transaction in the sale, I am essentially saying I’m going to take this thing that is a representation of my hard work, and I’m going to give it to you.

    I’m going to give it to you.

    And in return, you’re going to give me something that is commensurate in value with this thing, right? If I give you this thing for a loaf of bread, right? This in the United States of America, this would be a very expensive loaf of bread, a loaf of bread is around three to 42 If it’s not very good bread.

    And you can get some loaves of bread and the artisanal loaves of bread for like five or six or 7 depending on where you’re where you live and where you shop.

    But 10 bucks would be a very expensive loaf of bread.

    And so I’m trusting you that if I buy your artisanal, handmade, organic, non GMO loaf of bread, that the value I receive in return, the experience of eating your bread will be worth what I paid for it.

    Right? I trust you.

    And if I eat your loaf of bread, and it’s no better than the2 supermarket loaf of bread, then that trust is broken.

    Your your product service did not live up to what I paid for it.

    Now if that loaf of bread cost $1 instead of 10.

    I would probably feel pretty good about right like Hey, I got the same quality as the supermarket but it was half the cost the supermarket I would feel happy instead of unhappy because the transaction was commensurate with a transaction was a better value.

    So all sales is ultimately about trust a sale is an expression of trust.

    A brand than is the echo of that trust, every experience that I have with a brand either reinforces the trust that the brand has or diminishes it.

    Right, it reinforces or it diminishes the gaming company raise Sir, makes a lot of really good gear, right? This mouse that I use really, really nice mouse.

    I have come to trust them for their gear.

    I got the

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    I don’t remember, this is called now select the backbone, but it’s a gaming controller for your phone.

    I’m not as impressed with this.

    Right? This is okay.

    But it’s not the experience that I have with this.

    So in this sale in this transaction, my level of trust in the brand has gone down a little right? series of experiences and the emotional aftertaste, the emotional aftertaste, this product is mild satisfaction.

    Okay.

    It does what it say it says it did.

    But it doesn’t feel very good.

    And it’s missing some features that’s competitors have.

    Do that enough.

    And my trust in the brand overall will go down.

    So if we want our brands to do well, we have to build trust in them.

    We have to create trust, by many cases giving more value than we’re taking, right? If I as the customer give you this, this flattened representation of my efforts 10 of it, and you give me what I perceive to be $20 of value back.

    Trust goes up, trust goes up like wow, that was a really good bargain.

    That was a really good deal.

    I feel like the exchange was in my favor.

    I give you this and I get 5000 value back trust goes down, right.

    And the emotional aftertaste is sour, or bitter, and the bitter aftertaste of a transaction.

    So how do you put this into play? The first most important thing you need to be doing is doing market research and asking people how do you feel about our brand? What is the likelihood that you’re going to purchase from us in the next 90 days? That is NPS scores, Net Promoter Scores? Use a question all the time.

    That is a proxy question for trust.

    How much do you trust us? If you intend to purchase from us in the next 90 days you trust us? Because otherwise you wouldn’t be doing that? asking somebody? What is your intent to recommend our brand in the next 90 Days to a colleague or friend? Again, that’s a that is actually a bigger trust question.

    Because now, we are asking, are you willing to put your own reputation on the line to recommend us? It’s a big trust question.

    If all of your work in marketing and branding is about name recognition, and stuff, and you’re not thinking about whether or not you invoke trust, you might want to pause and say, Do we invoke trust? What does that look like? How do we measure it that’s unique to our company, its products and services? And then how can we increase the trust that we engender within someone? If you answer that question, a lot of the other things that you think about with brand like brand awareness and stuff will kind of take care of themselves.

    I mean, you’ll still want to do promotion stuff, but word of mouth is timeless.

    Word of mouth has been around since we could speak right since words could come out of our mouths.

    And it is still the most powerful marketing channel there is.

    Word of mouth is powered by trust.

    Sales is powered by trust and your brand is powered by trust.

    So make sure that you are behaving in a trustworthy way.

    That’s it for this episode.

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  • Mind Readings: AI Enables Creative by Proxy

    Mind Readings: AI Enables Creative by Proxy

    AI isn’t going to replace human tasks in creativity, but it’s going to widen the field substantially.

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    In today’s episode, more commentary on AI and creativity.

    A lot of folks have expressed unhappiness and concern, maybe even a little dismay at how good the newer creative models coming out of labs like your litho AI GPT, from open AI, and so on and so forth, how good these libraries are at creating and being creative.

    And a lot of folks have had very heated discussions about whether or not AI can truly be creative or not.

    I mean, the answer is it depends, right? It’s like people arguing whether art created by AI is art.

    Art is in the eye of the beholder.

    I mean, there’s plenty of art that I look at and go.

    I don’t get it.

    I just don’t understand.

    There was a piece at the, I want to say was the Metropolitan Museum of Art.

    I saw it in person it was, it was controversial.

    It might it might have been the American Museum of Art in DC.

    It was a jar of urine with a with a crucifix in it.

    It was a political statement of some kind, but I looked at it when I don’t get it.

    To me.

    That’s not That’s not what I look for.

    In art.

    It is art.

    But it is not.

    Art for me.

    This lovely thing, Haley move the camera a little bit.

    Right, this is the result of a water gun in the backyard.

    It’s Is it art.

    If you like it, it is you don’t like it’s just random decor.

    I saw another piece at a museum that was a three foot by three foot, Canvas painted blue looks at and went.

    I don’t get it meant something to the Creator.

    It means something to a percent of the audience.

    A percentage of the audience looks at that goes, Wow, I get it.

    It’s deep.

    It’s moving.

    It’s it’s powerful.

    And I’m sitting here going, I don’t get it.

    Given how broad and subjective art is.

    My answer to whether AI can create art or not is yes, it absolutely can create art, whether it’s art that you like, or I like is immaterial, it can create art because art is is always in the eye of the beholder.

    If you didn’t know that a machine created it.

    Would you say that was art or not? They pull up a piece here.

    So this is something I asked open AIS dolly to about.

    I said make me a painting of a field of sunflowers with pigeons in it.

    wearing hats.

    Is his art.

    If you didn’t know that a machine made that if I just told you I made that.

    Would you say it was art? Probably may or may not be very good.

    But you will probably say yeah, that’s alright.

    Here’s the important part about all this.

    AI is not going to replace artists it’s not going to replace humans are in the process of art.

    But it’s going to dramatically widen the field of art.

    It’s going to dramatically increase the amount of art we create.

    Why? I’m not a very good artist, right? I can sort of paint color in the in the lines and stuff.

    paint by numbers.

    I can draw.

    Sorta could I have created that painting of a field of sunflowers with pigeons wearing hats? I probably could have created something like it but not as good.

    That is an example of creativity by proxy.

    I have the creative impulse, the desire, the ambition.

    I have the idea I want to bring into the world but I don’t have the skills.

    I don’t have the abilities.

    AI gives me the ability is by proxy.

    I direct the machine to create it I look at the outputs.

    And I say that one or not that one or that one, and so on and so forth.

    And so it enables my creativity

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    in ways that no technology no other technology could write, I would have to go to art school for months, maybe years to create that style of art in a way that looks similar in quality to what a machine created with a prompt for me.

    It’s still my idea.

    It’s still, the creative impulse came from me, the machine did not just generate that randomly, the machine took a sentence from me paint a field of sunflowers with pigeons in it, wearing hats.

    And then it did the work.

    And so this creativity by proxy, where the machine is the proxy, is what’s going to change the field of creativity.

    Because suddenly, you will have a lot of a lot more expression of creativity, people saying, Yeah, I can’t paint, I can’t draw, I can’t compose music, and a machine saying I can do those skills, I have those skills, but I don’t have the creative impulse.

    So the human provides the impulse, and then the machine does the work.

    And then you could have situations where a human artist fine tunes it get takes the output from the machine and says, Okay, you did a mostly good job here.

    But when we pick, touch this up here, and maybe change the clouds here, and the painting, and so on and so forth.

    That is where humans can continue to add value, even in an AI generated piece, they can take the output, and improve upon it add uniquely human touches to it.

    But let’s be honest, this piece of art that I generated, I made this for a friend of mine.

    It’s good enough, right? It’s good enough? Did it take away labor or money from an artist? No, it didn’t.

    Why not? Because instead of me having a machine to instead of paying a human, what it really did was, it created the art where the art simply would not have existed before there was an idea in my head, it would never have left my head, it would have stayed in there and eventually vaporized.

    And so this creativity by proxy by machines is going to dramatically widen the field of creativity and the the body of work that the human race all of us can offer.

    Because for a substantial portion of us, we are no longer limited by our lack of skills, right? Our creative impulses can be channeled by proxy by machine.

    And it’s not going to take away art from people we would have paid to begin with, it’s going to manifest a lot of art that never makes it out of people’s heads.

    Right.

    And that’s a wonderful thing.

    That is a wonderful thing if we can get more people being more creative.

    When we get to the point where machines can start generating video, right? Imagine what that will do for filmmaking.

    Not because it’s going to take money away from the big Hollywood studios, it’s not, they may use it for process efficiency to improve the speed and reduce the cost of their outputs for sure.

    But all the indie filmmakers, people like me, maybe there’s a movie in me, I don’t have the ability, I don’t have the money.

    I don’t have the talent to create a feature film.

    But if we get to a point in a few years where the compute power is available, I may be able to make a feature film just with a series of prompts.

    Make a scene with two women drinking coffee at a table discussing their romance.

    Right.

    And machine may generate that and I might need to fine tune it.

    But that might be enough to help me make a film that right now I can’t.

    So I am cautiously optimistic about the technology today.

    I am enormously optimistic about where it’s going, and what it will allow us to create because when our creative impulses are not shackled by talent, and people can express themselves really express themselves artistically.

    And they may not have time have had time and life to acquire the skills that you’re going to see a true renaissance of what is in people’s heads.

    I think that’s gonna be a lot of fun.

    So that’s today’s thoughts.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Spotting Trends and Hits?

    You Ask, I Answer: Spotting Trends and Hits?

    Michael asks, “How do you spot trends and hits? What should you look for?”

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    In this episode, Michael asked how do you spot trends and hits? What should you look for? I mean, if I was super, super good at this, we wouldn’t be having this conversation because I thought it’d be retired.

    It depends on the context within statistics, a trend is detectable once you start having some form of sustained growth, right.

    So if you’re looking at a numeric series of some kind, you see a change in, in that that is sustained, you know, three, four, or five, six different data points where it’s going up what’s going down or something like that.

    But there’s, there’s something that is a sustained amount of momentum.

    That’s the mathematical answer of how you spot a trend.

    But more broadly, when people are asking like, how do I know what the next big thing is going to be? What should we be focusing on what’s going to be the next big hit, we don’t know.

    We have no way of knowing what the next big hit is going to be.

    Because it’s it’s so from a mathematical perspective, it is such a complex equation with so many inputs, that there is no way to accurately predict that outcome.

    Right, it’s like trying to pick a stock in the stock market.

    If the stock market was the only place where you could do business buying and selling stocks, you could probably come up with some predictive algorithms, that would work.

    But because you have all these other financial mechanisms, hedge funds, high frequency trading, Shadow markets, private trades, all the stuff that isn’t fitted into the outcome data, you can’t build a model, many, many companies have tried building a working model to predict the stock market and zero have succeeded.

    And I can tell you this with confidence, because if one of them had succeeded, they would have all the money.

    It would be no other viruses talk about there’d be one company that have all the money.

    And that would be that more broadly.

    From a cultural perspective, from a people perspective, again, we don’t know, we have no way of knowing what’s going to take off, what you can do is pay very careful attention and look at data very, very frequently.

    So there are some great listening tools, conversational intelligence tools out there Talkwalker, for example, good friend of mine, the folks over there that provide really good data tools to provide information that you can then put through predictive algorithms, Markov chain models, neural networks to take the, the fancy, forecasting software of your choice.

    And you can start to look for those patterns of growth.

    But even then, it’s not necessarily going to be all that clear.

    Here’s a simple example, if you were to go to Google Trends, go to trends.google.com.

    And type in Tiktok.

    Switch the timeline to all time, you would see that it took a really, really long time, years for the service to catch on.

    Right? When you look at that graph, you’re looking at it go wow, it would have been really, really hard to detect that this is the thing.

    So what do you do? How do you add into this? The answer is in the target market that you care about, wherever that market is, you’ve got to be listening.

    You’ve got to be in the mix, listening to what people are talking about and listening for conversations, and trying to understand what it is that people what catches people’s attention.

    For example, as of the date of this recording, which is July 24 of 2022 a new video game stray has hit the market and in a number of discord groups that I’m a member of conversations are happening a lot about this game, gamers are talking about it.

    It made a big splash and more importantly, people seem to like it, people seem to enjoy it.

    And as a result, it appears to it’s going to be a hit.

    Now it’s early.

    Now it only released a few days ago.

    But when you’re in multiple communities and you see the same thing being talked about, that’s a pretty good early indicator that you should pay attention to it should dig in a little bit see if see if there’s a there there.

    We say the same thing about for example, when a new social network pops up if you see enough people in your target audience talking about things that’s why it’s time to go alright you know when You’d go, at least sign up for an account, get our name reserved, maybe see who else is there and see what the general conversations are.

    That’s one of the easiest ways to

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    not predict a hit or trend.

    But to catch it early enough that to the outside world looks like you predicted it.

    For example, in January of 2020, I started reading a lot, a lot on Twitter within a very specific community about this new disease.

    It’s called an cov 2019 novel Coronavirus.

    And some of the folks who were in these, these disease communities were saying this is this is going to be a thing.

    The numbers at that point like they were less than 500 cases.

    Around the world at that point, there was like a couple 1000 5000 or so in China that was about it.

    It was quiet.

    It was a relatively quiet thing.

    But it did look like a quiet thing, right exhibited signs of exponential growth.

    Two months later lockdowns came, right, April, March, end of March, April 2020, it became a thing and then you had the main wave, the alpha wave, the delta wave Omicron Omicron, ba two Omicron, ba five, and so on and so forth.

    And here we are two years later.

    And in those early days, I went to an event.

    And I said, I was the only person wearing one of my my P 100.

    masks and people like what is wrong with you? Dude, you’re what’s up with that.

    And I sent an email to events are speaking at, you know, later in the year saying, Hey, I think this might be a thing.

    So offering to record my session this video in case in case it it becomes a thing because it was exhibiting mathematical signs and exponential growth signs of becoming a thing.

    We all know what happened, right? And I got emails later that year, and the next year, I feel going.

    Yeah, you’re right.

    How do you know you? I didn’t know.

    I wasn’t predicting it, I was just paying attention to what’s happening.

    In the moment, we’re seeing the same thing happening now.

    Again, it’s July 24, of 2022.

    With stuff like monkeypox, it’s picking up steam, right? The mathematical trends are in his favor.

    And so gotta pay attention when the math shows that early signs of an exponential trend, which you can find mathematically, it’s time to pay attention to it.

    The challenge is, you’ve got to know where to listen.

    And that’s the part that marketers have, I think the most trouble with marketers spend so much time listening to themselves and to the people within their companies, and not nearly enough time listening to their customers, not nearly enough time listening to the audience spending time.

    Online, even in your audience.

    When you spend time in your audience, you hear stuff, when you hear stuff, you can start quantifying it, and identifying what’s gonna be a thing before it’s a thing.

    Because it is still technically a thing.

    Exponential growth just doesn’t look like it until it really looks like it.

    But that’s the way exponents work, right? Doubling a number that doubles every time you know, it goes from one to two, whoo, big deal, right? Two to four, no big deal, then you get to 64 128 256-512-1024.

    And you’re like, oh, this thing’s growing pretty fast.

    Now.

    That’s the challenge our brains as people we don’t we don’t do exponential calculations very well, if at all.

    We can’t see it.

    So we’ve got to rely on our tools to do it for us.

    So that is what I would suggest is good listening to identify topics and things to pay attention to.

    And then good analysis tools to look at the data and say, are any of these things exhibiting exponential growth? If so, should we be doing something about it? Really good question.

    It’s a question that requires you to actually have a the time to listen carefully in all the right communities and be the technology to to analyze it to look for those trends.

    So good question.

    Thanks for asking.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: What Makes for Compelling Events?

    You Ask, I Answer: What Makes for Compelling Events?

    In today’s episode, we answer the question, “What compels you to attend a webinar/online event?”

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    In today’s episode, the question is what compels you to attend a webinar or online event? To be honest. Not a whole lot does. Not for me If it’s a topic or a subject that I’m interested in, I will attend. If I’m speaking at it, I kind of have to attend Right. That’s that was pretty obvious. But for the most part, there isn’t a lot to online events and to webinars other than it being something where I know I’m going to learn something that compels me to attend.

    And so a lot of the time I will attend events and things outside of my area of Expertize, right? I don’t attend much in the way of marketing and especially marketing analytics content because there isn’t a whole lot new under the sun right back. I get a ton of useful insights and experience when I attend, say, like a medical analytics event or a hard core coding event like the AR conference or a Tableau Conference.

    Something where I can see different perspectives, where I can see the same tools that I use, but see them used in different ways. The analogy I would give there is imagine you’re a French chef, right?

    How much benefit are you going to get out of going to online events about French food? If you’re a really good French chef, that answer is probably not a whole lot. You might pick up a little insight or a new thing here or there, but for the most part, if you’re a good French chef, you probably are not going to pick up a whole lot of new things.

    Right. But if you attend a an Italian food event or a Japanese food event, totally different way of doing things, even though it’s the same general topic cooking, you’re going to see very different perspectives, new ideas that you can then bring back into your practice. Some things will not make sense. Other things you can pick up some really cool stuff.

    For example, in that in that example, maybe, maybe you see how the Japanese method of making computer works and like, wow, I’m going to try that because that looks really different and could lend some some neat new flavors to my food. When we think about analytics and marketing and stuff, it looking at the same stuff that everyone else is looking at guarantees that you’re going to be doing the same things everybody else is doing.

    When you should be looking at what works best in other domains of expertize, what works best in bioinformatics, what works best in stock analysis. Half of the interesting things that I’ve done, my own coding and my own analytics come from other disciplines, particularly finance. I people have spent decades trying to build financial models to predict a stock or an equity or a bond or something else.

    Now, cryptocurrencies, right, and forecasting financial outcomes And those techniques they developed kind of sort of work in finance, but particularly with things like the stock market is really, really difficult because there’s so many hidden factors Those same techniques, they were brilliantly in marketing because we have far fewer inputs. When you have a stock market and you have a stock, you have a lot of I call shadow inputs and things that are out of your control, maybe out of your vision.

    There are institutional funds, hedge funds, you know, all sorts of high frequency trading off market transactions that can impact a stock price. It’s very, very difficult to to see those. It’s very, very difficult to forecast those and to account for them in a financial model. There is no such thing as a shadow website that’s secretly sending you traffic, right?

    You may have unattributed traffic, but for the most part there is no parallel parallel marketplace, no parallel web there. There’s all these secret things that are suddenly influencing your analytics, and it doesn’t happen. Your web analytics is reasonably self-contained. Now, but, you know, there are obviously are things that will impact your company. But from a data perspective, you don’t have those problems.

    And so a technique that works, OK, in finance works really well in marketing because there are more guardrails right there. There’s fewer chances for random, weird outside interference when you look at a technique that works in medicine, it’s statistical technique. It works in medicine. A lot of these techniques have to be bulletproof. Right, because lives are literally on the line.

    If you get the statistical analysis wrong, people die. When you’re researching a drug and you conduct an AB test in marketing, we conduct a Navy test and nobody like test be cool, right? In medicine, if if B goes really wrong you kill somebody. And so the rigor and the discipline and the governance and all the best practices are used in medicine and in pharmaceutical research.

    Again, these are the things that we can put into marketing, improve our marketing, improve our analytic skills in an environment where lives are not on the line. And it’s a topic of discussion that my business partner and her friend, Katie Ribeiro and I talk about all the time. She cut her teeth in in the medical industry, in the pharma industry, in dealing with substances and situations that if you got it wrong, people died.

    To step into marketing is like a breath of fresh air. Because even if you’re completely wrong in marketing, probably nobody’s going to die. You might get fired, but you know you’re not going to have somebody coding out on the table because of a bad decision you made. So when we think about what compels me to attend an event, it’s because I want to learn something from a perspective I haven’t seen yet or from a perspective that’s going to be so wildly divergent from what I’m currently used to that I can come away with not one or two, but a dozen or two dozen new ideas, new things, new points of view.

    The last two years have been a buffet of these things because again, with the pandemic, so many events and things went online and the recordings are up on YouTube for free. You don’t have to register. There’s no shortage of really good sources for new ideas. The challenge that we all have to face is making sure that we’re not attending events and trainings and online things that are inside of our comfort zone, that are inside of our knowledge zone, but instead stepping outside, sometimes far outside for a totally different look.

    How an industry solves a problem that isn’t our industry could lend some unique insight, some innovative insights that we could use for our stuff that could shortcut months or maybe even years of work on our part when someone else is hardly working solution for that any different industry. So that’s what compels me to attend events. Be curious to hear what you have to say to this question.

    If you want to let me know. Go over to every Slack group. Go to Trust Insights Dot A.I. Slash Analytics for marketers. Ask this question recently there. We’d love to hear what compels you to attend an online event. Thanks for tuning in. We’ll talk to you soon. If you like this video, go ahead and hit that subscribe button.

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