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What’s On My Mind: How To Make a 30 Second Spot with AI

Happy Mother’s Day to all who fulfill that role.

I strongly recommend you watch the video version of this week’s issue.

This week, let’s look at a practical use case that assembles a variety of different AI tools and techniques to produce a final, reasonably polished output: a 30 second ad spot.

Why this use case? If we look at all the subordinate tasks in this use case, it’ll teach us quite a bit about how to employ AI to reach far beyond our individual capabilities, or the capabilities of any one tool. It’ll help us transcend our own limitations and transform how we do things.

Part 1: Cautions and Ethics

Before we begin, I want to issue a caution here. If you believe in things like ethics, maxims like ‘People over Profits’, etc., then do your best to make your use of AI additive.

By additive, I mean using it in places and ways you would never have done before. By contrast, using AI in a substitutive way takes away paying work from our fellow humans, which will have long term consequences if everyone starts doing it.

For example, I’ll be making a 30 second spot for the Almost Timely Newsletter. The likelihood that I would commission an ad agency and the requisite talent to do that is approximately zero. I can’t afford it. I’d never do it, so that work would simply remain undone. I’m not using AI to take money out of anyone’s pocket.

By contrast, if I were to use AI to make a 30 second spot for a company like T-Mobile? They can clearly afford to hire humans to do that work, so if I did it with AI, I’d be taking money out of someone else’s pocket. That’s a case where the use of AI is harmful to real people in a clear, direct, obvious manner.

I get it. It’s not always so cut and dried, so black and white. As the economy turns, everyone is finding ways to cut back, to (that much hated cliche) “do more with less”. But there’s a difference between lean and mean versus starving and homicidal.

The temptation, now and in the days to come, to cut costs as fast as possible and swap in AI as much as possible will be strong. You will feel that pressure, especially in B2C in the next 2-3 months and B2B in the next 3-4 months, if you’re not feeling it already. From AI to tariffs to whatever the crisis of the week is, you will face pressure to boost profit margins and reduce expenses.

How that plays out will depend on who you work for. A company that prizes people and the long-term view will generally not pressure you to replace people with AI. A company that prizes profits and the short-term view will generally push as hard as possible to replace people with AI.

So where and when you can, pay humans to do human work, and use AI for the work that would never have gotten done at all, or where there’s absolutely no realistic way you could have gotten budget for the human equivalent.

Part 2: Mise En Place

It’s tempting to jump right in and just start doing stuff. That was me ten years ago, let’s just go!

Well, ten years and a lot of bruises have kindly suggested that a little mise en place never hurts and often helps.

You’ll need the following to make this project work.

Ingredients

• Data about the thing you’re working on. In my case, it’s a long block of text (I call them knowledge blocks, like Legos) about the Almost Timely Newsletter. I cover how to build knowledge blocks in the Trust Insights Generative AI Use Cases course
• Data about the people you’re trying to reach, like your Ideal Customer Profile
• Knowledge blocks about best practices for 30 second spot creation, music theory, TV ad script writing, and non-linear video editing. You can technically do this process without these, but these make it SUBSTANTIALLY better. If you want to take your work to the next level, have subject matter experts review your knowledge blocks and correct them. Remember that as AI gets smarter, it makes smarter mistakes that are harder to detect.
• Ideas about what kind of 30 second spot you want to create. You don’t have to be specific at first, but you should at least have a general idea.
• Guidelines if you have them about brand voice, tone, etc.

Tools

• A paid Google Gemini or OpenAI account (something that gives you access to Veo 2 or Sora)
• Access to a reasoning model, such as Gemini 2.5 Advanced, OpenAI o3, DeepSeek R2, Qwen 3 235B-A22B, or Claude Sonnet 3.7 Extended Thinking
• A free or paid Suno or Riffusion account for music generation
• A paid Eleven Labs account or similar text to speech service (Google’s TTS voices are generally quite good as well)
• A video editing tool (Camtasia, Adobe Premiere, Google Videos, etc.)

“But Chris, can’t you do all this in one tool?” Yes, you can, but you should avoid it if possible. Google Videos in Google Workspace can. The quality of the non-video parts leaves a lot to be desired. If you want something that looks nice, use the best in class tools for each.

Part 3: The Script

We’ll start in the generative AI tool of your choice – Claude, ChatGPT, Gemini, DeepSeek – it doesn’t really matter which. You’ll want to load your ICP into the AI of your choice, along with your knowledge block about 30 second spot scriptwriting. You’ll also need to load in your About knowledge block, of who you are and what you do.

Here’s a sample prompt that you’d include with this knowledge block.

You’re an ad scriptwriting expert. Using the knowledge I’ve provided and your background knowledge about 30 second spot scriptwriting, let’s think through 5-7 unique, divergent ad concept candidates for a 30 second spot about the Almost Timely Newsletter. Reference the knowledge block I’ve provided about the Almost Timely Newsletter and the Ideal Customer Profile. The specific problem I want to solve for my ICP in this spot is helping them become better marketers by learning about AI from me, in my free newsletter. The goal of the spot is to get them to subscribe to my newsletter. Rank your concepts by probability they will appeal to the ICP in descending order. Show the probabilities.

You’ll note that this prompt is relatively short, and the reason for that is that we’re provided thousands and thousands of words in our knowledge blocks that help the AI model precisely understand who we are, what we do, and who we serve. Without that knowledge, this prompt would generate something totally unhelpful.

Once it spits out some concepts, review them. This is, as you can guess, the Trust Insights RAPPEL AI framework at work.

After you select the concept you like most, then move onto the script.

Using your knowledge of scriptwriting, draft 3 unique, divergent candidate scripts for the concept of {put the concept you liked here}. Think through the kinds of language, emotions, appeals, and ideas that would appeal to our ICP. Each script should be a maximum of 60 words. The call to action at the end of each script must be “Subscribe now for free at ChristopherSPenn.com“. Produce each candidate, then produce a summary score ranking each candidate in descending order by probability our ICP would like it. Show the probabilities.

You’ll note that in both cases, I’m having the AI model generate not one, but many different options and having it self-evaluate. One of the things people do most wrong is have AI come up with a single answer. AI models are probability engines, which means if you have them do just one thing, they produce the highest probability outcome, but in a narrow distribution. If you force them to produce multiple, diverging outcomes, you get a wider distribution, which means you get more creativity out of them.

Once it devises the script and you pick one, spend any additional time you need refining it.

Part 4: The Videos

After you have the script, it’s time to build the videos. In the same chat you were building the script in, include your 30 second video ad production knowledge block and NLE video editing knowledge block, the prompt it like this:

Using the script above {or provide your revised version if you did some wordsmithing} and the knowledge blocks provided, generate a shot list of 6-10 shots for the script that match the script and are visually appealing to our ICP. The shots should total 30 seconds. No single shot should exceed 5 seconds. The video format is 16:9. The shot list should be rich, highly detailed, highly specific, very technical guidance for a producer as to what to shoot, so each shot will need to have:
– Shot number
– Shot type (closeup, medium, flyover, etc.)
– Camera movement
– Location/scene/setting
– Exterior/interior including time of day
– Lighting
– Cast (will there be people? If not, you need to say so. if so, specify what they’re doing. specify a specific person or people with verbose descriptions of their appearance)
– Duration
Each shot in the shot list should be approximately 1,000 characters long. Think through how each shot flows from one to the next, ensuring consistent visual storytelling. Assume the producer will need complete, discrete details for each shot to increase consistency, as though each shot were being given to a different production unit.

This should produce a solid shot list. Take each shot, one by one, and put it into the video generation tool of your choice. Be warned, for Google Vertex users using Veo 2 within Vertex, you pay 7 cents per second of generated video. By default it produces 4 candidates at a time, so if you have it generate 4 seconds of video, each prompt costs you 4 * 7 * 4, or USD 1.12. Doing 10 shots would cost you USD 11.20.

Veo 2 is currently the best quality video generation model on the market, though there are strong competitors such as Kling, Hailuo, Sora, and Pika. Rumor has it next week that Google will reveal Veo 3, so stay tuned on that front.

Once you get the video clips, store them in a folder somewhere. We’ll assemble them later. Make note of the fact that almost every tool exports them with nearly useless file names, so rename them according to your shot list.

Part 5: The Music

This brings us next to our music. Go back to the text chat where we were building the video script. Let’s now have the model think through some music candidates. Add in your music knowledge block, then prompt it like this:

Based on the script selected and the shot list you created, think through what kind of background music (instrumental) would be the best fit the script. The duration of the piece will be 30 seconds. Create three unique, divergent, highly technical, highly detailed, granular, specific list of instructions for a composer to generate the music, including:
– Style/genre (i.e. action, drama, romance, comedy, etc.)
– Key
– Tempo in BPM
– Timbre
– Orchestration and instrumentation
– Harmony and dissonance
– Melody
– Rhythm
– Chord progression
After you produce the complete directions, produce a version that is no more than 200 characters, condensing it to the most critical, technical points. The condensed version should use no verbs, no stop words, working to condense as much detail as possible into 200 characters.
Then rank the three candidates based on their appeal to the ICP. Show your probabilities.

The latter direction in the prompt is for tools like Suno that constrain you to a short prompt. Riffusion offers more generous space in its prompting, but its model isn’t as good as Suno’s, at least for the moment. The reason this prompt is structured the way it is, is to get the content into the working memory, the conversation first, before winnowing it down.

Go to your music generation tool of choice and generate candidates until you find one you like. Depending on your plan, you may need to generate 5-10 variations until you find something solid.

Save the music to the folder where you put the videos.

Part 6: The Voiceover

Next, take the short script we generated earlier and go to a tool like Eleven Labs or Google TTS. For the purpose of making a 30 second spot, Eleven Labs tends to be the better choice. Now, there are two fundamental ways to do the script read here. If your script has certain elements that you want read a very, very specific way, you’ll use the Voice Changer module. If you don’t care how it’s read beyond basic competence, you’ll use the Text to Speech module.

If you’re using the Voice Changer, record yourself speaking the script exactly the way you want it. Then choose a voice from the Eleven Labs voice library that fits your script and apply the voice to your audio.

If you’re using the Text to Speech module, paste in the script, select the voice from the library, and generate it. You may need to mess around with the sliders on the right hand side until you get a voice generation candidate you like; it’s a bit of trial and error. I find Stability around 50, similarity around 85, and speaker style set to 1 the most effective for most use cases.

Save the voice file to your folder where you put the music and videos.

Part 7: The Assembly

In the video editing tool of your choice, assemble the final product. Put the video clips on the first track, and splice them up as needed to fit the 30 second time requirement, arranging them in the order of the shot list.

In the audio tracks, put your music and voiceover. If your software supports it, choose ducking for the music track so that it doesn’t overwhelm the voiceover.

Once you’ve assembled everything, give it a playthrough in the interface and if it looks and sounds good, export it. You’re done! You can now upload it and put it to use.

Part 8: Implications

That brings us to the conclusion of the process, but not the conclusion of the discussion. As you can probably see, the output of this process is… pretty good. It’s not great. It’s not going to win an Emmy. But it is better than what I’d be able to do for myself.

Which means that, as we discussed in the cautions section, there will be people who will use this to take wages away from real humans. Don’t do that, to the maximum extent you can avoid it.

Above and beyond the ethical reasons, there’s also the matter of copyright. Because we have done this entire process via prompting, with us providing no human-created works along the way, the output is completely machine-made. That in turn means that in most places in the world, the output cannot be copyrighted. If you’re creating content that you must own the copyright for, you cannot use machines for it. You must use humans.

So what would be the practical use cases for something like this, if we don’t want to take away wages? As I said earlier, it’s about doing what you couldn’t do before and wouldn’t pay someone else to do, or couldn’t afford to do. Me doing a 30 second spot for this newsletter doesn’t take money out of anyone else’s pockets.

This process would be amazing for comps – whiteboarding out some content and then once you’ve seen how it works, how it flows, working with real humans to build the full, final product. For things like television and movies, that’d definitely accelerate the process.

It would also make phenomenal training materials for people wanting to learn to work in digital production, or for people who are just starting out that don’t have a robust portfolio. My friend Julia is starting her own video production house, and this kind of process could let her produce all the raw assets needed for her to demonstrate her skills across a wide range of content types – 30 second spots, testimonials, etc. with realistic outputs that she absolutely couldn’t get access to otherwise.

What role does an expert play in this ecosystem, when a machine can replace a production team or an entire agency? Think back through the process. The machine did the labor. I brought a LOT of materials that I synthesized, but I am not expert in any of them. I relied on AI to generate them, and for at least one of them, the machines made some subtle mistakes. My friend Ruby, a music expert, reviewed the music knowledge block and pointed out where the machines went wrong. That block is now better because a subject matter expert reviewed it for correctness.

If you’re a subject matter expert, you could curate knowledge blocks that are bespoke, that have your specific expertise and point of view in them. As I say in my keynotes, whoever has the most, best data – meaning the highest quality knowledge – will have an advantage in the generative AI era.

Finally, some additional ethical points. Avoid making videos that misrepresent things. For example, I’ve spoken on stage at events and gotten standing ovations. I have lower quality video of people doing that, so generating a higher quality version of that to me is not problematic. I have the receipts that it actually happened, so I feel comfortable with a synthetic version. If that never happened? Ethically, I’d be misrepresenting the situation.

AI is a superpower, and as Dr. Erskein said in the first Captain America movie, it makes the good into better and the bad into worse. Its limits are your limits, where you stand ethically, what you consider to be right and wrong. It’s not sentient, nor is it self aware, nor are manufacturers able to limit it in any serious way to only allow positive use cases and prohibit negative use cases outside the blatantl obvious.

Which means the power to use it wisely and well is in your hands. Use it wisely and well, doing as little harm as possible.

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