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  • You Ask, I Answer: Marketing Opportunities on Tiktok?

    You Ask, I Answer: Marketing Opportunities on Tiktok?

    Jeremy asks, “I’m curious to know your thoughts about Tik Tok. Are there marketing opportunities there for brands or will that end up killing the platform?”

    As with any social media platform, it depends on your goals and your audience. For some, Tiktok is a slam dunk. For others, it’s utterly senseless. The key question is, can you serve the audience there? Watch the video for the 5 step process on approaching Tiktok as a marketer.

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    In today’s episode, Jeremy, so I’m curious to know your thoughts about Tiktok.

    Are their marketing opportunities there for brands? Or will that end up killing the platform? Well, can’t really kill a platform with marketing.

    I mean, it like any platform has followers and fans, if you don’t follow, somebody’s not going to see their stuff.

    And the best stuff that makes it to the front page, even without you being logged in, is not going to be your marketing stuff.

    So as with any social media platform, it depends on your goals and your audience.

    So what are your goals? as a marketer? Are you trying to build awareness, which is one thing that Tiktok is really great at? Are you trying to do lead conversion? Probably not the place to do that? More importantly, what’s your audience? Tiktok we know very little about the platform other than what was in a leaked ad agency.

    Deck a little more than a year actually about a year ago, in which it said that of its 600 million users 550 million we’re in Asia, mostly China, about 30 million users at the time in the United States.

    And the demographic skew very, very young 13 to 24.

    Is that your audience? Is that the audience you’re going after? If it is great? If it’s not, then you know that for some brands, and for some companies and some products, that that’s a slam dunk.

    That is exactly the demographic that’s exactly who they want to be in front of.

    And that’s exactly who they want to appeal to for other brands.

    That’s, that’s totally useless, right? It’s totally senseless.

    There’s no reason to be there.

    And now, this is the important part.

    Can you serve the audience there? So a lot of marketers a lot of companies make the ridic This mistake that they just start throwing their stuff out there Hey, check out our thing Hey, learn all about us and things and nobody wants that right? on LinkedIn that’s called a pitch slap, right? So the moment you connect with somebody, she gets slapped with one of their sales pitches, nobody wants that.

    Can you as a company? Can you as a marketer, make the kind of content that does well on Tiktok? Can you make things that are funny that are silly that are music related that are are maybe not the most, you’re serious content, but really just really good entertainment? Can you serve the audience can you give your audience what they want, not what you want as the marketer but what they want.

    Many, many, many brands struggle with this.

    About the only brands that don’t really have a hard time with that as much our entertainment brands where their mission is to entertain to give you entertainment in smaller doses.

    hopes that you’ll then upgrade to the larger doses on you know, their whatever their paid streaming app or services.

    And so when it comes to Tiktok, can you create content that resonates with the community that blends in with the culture that’s already there? many brands can’t do that.

    They just can’t they’re their own internal culture is so stuck on being self centered, that they can’t make that pivot.

    That’s why a number of brands have done really, really poorly on any network where there is a strong subculture like Reddit, for example, Reddit has a very clear, very strong subculture neither right or wrong, but if you can’t fit into the Reddit crowd, you will do more reputation damage than good, right you will get roundly mocked, you will get strung up metaphorically and it will not benefit your company.

    The same is true of Tick tock tick tock has a culture It is a very specific color.

    There’s a clear culture in it.

    And if you are not able to blend in with it and align the the content you create with that, it’s not going to go well.

    So as with any social network, any new, any new audience and a new environment, you’ve got to do a few things.

    Number one, sign up for it number to secure your name, right? That’s pretty obvious.

    And then spend a whole bunch of time we’re talking weeks or maybe even months.

    Just watching, just watching, just listening, paying attention, making notes to yourself, of what is working, what’s not what is popular, what makes it to the front page or the front of the app.

    What trends Do you see.

    And after you finish your period of listening, then you can start your period of engagement, which is commenting and making friends and networking, things like that.

    And finally, you start creating, right? That’s the sequence in which you tackle any new environment.

    It’s very similar to, you know, good old anthropology where if you’re trying to observe a society, you spend a lot of time on that observation.

    You spend a lot of time on that note making you spend time building relationships first, and only then do you start trying to be an active participant in that society if it’s even appropriate to do so.

    Obviously, for anthropological studies, it is not.

    But for social media marketing, that’s the way you’d want to go.

    The worst thing you can do is just start throwing the same crap that you put up on YouTube on Tiktok.

    Because again, at best, you’ll be ignored at worst you’ll be causing actively damaging your brand’s reputation.

    So that’s the thing.

    Try it out.

    Is there a marketing opportunity there? Maybe Maybe not.

    Is the Chinese audience your market.

    There are certainly any number of resellers and fulfillment companies and things like that, that are based in China, if you want to reach them, that might be an interesting way to do it in a language and environment where you are not.

    You’re not as constrained.

    Certainly, there are apps, you know, for example, like red, that are very, very popular in China, but you had better speak Chinese to use Tiktok doesn’t have quite quite a strong language barrier.

    But if your audience is there, give it a try.

    See what’s happening and then make the decision like is this a place that we could meaningfully provide value? So that’s the answer.

    I think there are some marketing opportunities for me personally, no, from my company, not right now.

    But maybe down the road.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: How Useful is Porter’s 5 Forces?

    You Ask, I Answer: How Useful is Porter's 5 Forces?

    Katy asks, “How applicable is Porter’s 5 Forces for you in your career/firm?”

    The short answer is that Porter’s 5 Forces, while an excellent abstract strategic framework, is exceptionally difficult to quantify and thus manage against. It’s the sort of thing that’s good at the start of a company, when you’re working out the market space, but not something you’ll use on a regular basis. Watch the video for details.

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    Christopher Penn In today’s episode, Katie asks how applicable is Porter’s five forces for you, in your career or firm? If you don’t recall, and for some folks, it may have been a little while since business school if you if you made it to business school, which is totally fine if you didn’t Porter’s five forces is a strategic framework to determine the sort of industry rivalry, how competitive is an industry? And how likely is it that your firm your company is going to face a lot of pressure from competitors.

    So let’s actually bring up the model here.

    Here we have Porter’s five forces we have it’s really structured but essentially you read it left, right and then top to bottom.

    So left to right.

    You have the threat of new entrants, meaning that there’s a new company to come into your space and disrupt you.

    There’s your company in the middle and then there is a On the other side of that the threat of substitutes meaning a company that does what you do, but can be substituted in for you, the more there are substitutes the more likely you are facing commoditization.

    Right think about a plumber right? Plumbing Companies the substitute is pretty obvious it’s any plumber right? Because for the category as a whole, there’s not a whole lot that sets one plumber apart from the other right it’s all relationship based, same with new entrants, if classic case of that was you know, cars taxi, the taxi industry being disrupted by Uber right new entrant came in and and wrecked the marketplace.

    vertically, you have the bargaining power of suppliers, namely how much leverage they have over you for what they supply you and the bargaining power of buyers how much pricing pressure a buyer can apply to your company based on their willingness to to squeeze you a real good example that This one is a Bed Bath and Beyond nobody shops there unless they have a coupon.

    Right? So people, people have been so trained by that company basically being in permanent sale mode that they can’t do any normal business if they’re not sending out like a 30% off coupon.

    So this framework is a good, abstract strategic framework, right? It is something that you can sit down and do as a thought exercise.

    Anytime you’re doing a major strategic pivot or decision if you’re starting a new company, if you are trying to change the purpose of your company, this is a really good framework.

    It is good for you know, that annual board strategic retreat or senior executive strategic meeting or whatever.

    But the challenge with Porter’s five forces and its use is that because it is so abstract, it is very difficult to quantify and it’s very Difficult, therefore, to manage against each of these categories, you can make some kind of framework that has some numbers attached to it right.

    And, you know, threat of new entrants isn’t, you know, number of competitors, how many of them are there? And was their market share threat of substitutes, you know, what, how comparable are our competitors on features and pricing.

    And what you’ll end up with is sort of a massive spreadsheet that starts to look a lot like a major consulting firms two by two matrix, right.

    That said, you can’t really manage against that because assembling one of those things is a massive, very labor intensive process and keeping the data up to date.

    kind of tough, right? Because again, it’s it’s a lot of legwork.

    The same is true for you know, the bargaining power of suppliers and buyers, very different types of measurement.

    And so you can kind of sort of measure Porter’s five forces, but when it comes to you Using a strategic framework to measure against on a regular frequent basis, you’re actually much better off with a SWOT analysis because SWOT Analyses allow you to, to really keep track of a discrete set of data, right, a SWOT analysis for social media is a good way to segment out your, your data and look at just one channel SWOT analysis for email SWOT analysis for search engine optimization for SEO.

    That framework will be much more practical to use on a regular basis.

    So when you’re making a major strategic change, for decide forces is the way to go.

    When you’re trying to manage on a regular basis, use a SWOT analysis instead.

    I would say with Porter’s five forces we use that at the beginning, when I when my partner and I co founded Trust Insights and we we use a variant of it To try and understand how should we position the company.

    And there were, there’s always a threat of new entrants in any industry, there really was no threat of substitutes because data science is this such a limited talent pool, that it’s not like you can create a massive Goliath overnight, the bargaining power of buyers is relatively low, because if buyers have a need, they know they don’t have any way to fulfill that need because again, the talent shortage in the field.

    And then the bargaining power of suppliers.

    At least a service firm which is what we are there, we don’t really have suppliers, right other than, you know, tools and software and most of what we use is open source.

    So there is no bargaining power.

    So it puts us in a very interesting position that has been very advantageous.

    We do on a fairly regular basis.

    Keep an eye on What’s happening in the industry but everything we’ve seen thus far indicates that the conditions for the creation of our company have gotten better instead of worse, or, I should say are more advantageous rather than less advantageous because it really is no good or bad.

    So that’s the long answer Porter’s five forces, good strategic, abstract stickle SWOT analysis for for operational stuff, and maybe we’ll cover that in another episode.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Is Direct Mail Dead?

    You Ask, I Answer: Is Direct Mail Dead?

    Maria asks, “Researching direct mail and my boss says it’s a waste of time, it’s dead. Is direct mail dead?”

    Yes and no. Direct mail to people who didn’t ask for it is dead. It’s an enormous waste of money and is flat out pollution. I’d rather you send a billion pieces of electronic spam than cut down even one tree. But direct mail to people who ask for it is not dead. This is the fundamental rule for every marketing tactic: nothing is dead to people who really want it.

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    In today’s episode Maria asks, I’m researching direct mail.

    My boss says the waste of time it’s dead is direct mail dead.

    So this is an interesting question yes and no direct mail.

    And by that we mean literal pieces of paper that are sent to people in the postal system is that were used to be one of the most popular tactics from marketers back in the pre internet days.

    But obviously, as people have moved online, electronic communications have become ubiquitous, right? You have these lovely devices that let us communicate and be online.

    24 seven, direct mail.

    And by that we mean that mailing of paper to people who did not ask for it is dead.

    And the reason it’s dead is the cost right? It costs almost nothing to send an email, even for the most elaborate and expensive marketing automation software, it costs almost nothing to send an email.

    It costs sometimes pennies, maybe as much as 25 cents us to send a piece of direct mail to consumers, and that’s a lot of money, right? You send mail to four people.

    That’s 1.

    I cost you1.

    The reason why we’re saying direct mail is sort of dead is because it’s dead to people who didn’t ask for it.

    And if you’re cold email, cold postal mailing people, that is an enormous, enormous waste of money.

    It is 10s of thousands of dollars.

    That is just literally being thrown away.

    And more importantly, today, it’s flat out pollution.

    It’s Pollution it’s double pollution because a you’ve got the mail pieces being thrown away into garbage dumps maybe compost heaps if you’re lucky and be you had to cut down the tree and make the paper that the the direct mail is printed on doubly so it’s even worse at the paper happens to be was looking for chocolate coated in plastic to make it weather resistant or or sealed Bennett takes even longer for it to break down.

    And so there are substantial negative climate impacts to direct mail to people who didn’t ask for I would rather you send a billion pieces of electronic spam.

    Then cut down even one tree to send marketing materials to people who didn’t ask for it right if you’re gonna if you’re going to do spam, please do it electronically public service message.

    Here’s the flipside.

    Direct mail to people who ask for people who want it from you is not dead if you send out a a real paper newsletter.

    If you send out a magazine, if you send out a mailer, to people who have specifically raised their hand said, I want you to send this to me via the postal mail, and maybe even they’re willing to pay for it.

    But it’s not dead.

    Right magazines, people still do receive magazines in the mail people still do.

    Read, read and receive paper newspapers, not many, not as many as it used to.

    People still do want to get things in the mail, there are entire subscription services where you get something in the mail, right? So if people ask for it, then it’s not dead.

    The question is, how do you know that somebody wants it? Well, the way to do that is to use electronic communications first, and then ask people Hey, would you like to receive our marketing in printed form? If so, it will cost this much.

    Now, out of a 10 Thousand person mailing list, you know, five people may opt for that but as long as those five people are the ones that are valuable potential customers then it would make sense to do is like any form of marketing it doesn’t make sense to do it is that the right people? This is the fundamental rule of all outbound marketing, right? Nothing is dead to people who really want it.

    certainly nothing is dead to people who are willing to pay for it.

    And the gold standard that we all strive for in marketing is have a marketing be so good people would actually pay for it and direct mail is an example of of that of is your marketing good enough that somebody would want to at least pay the costs of the direct mail to receive a newsletter from you? That is worth them shelling out 25 cents.

    If you’re at that point, you are a an outstanding marketer.

    I’m not even sure I would pay 25 cents to print doubt my newsletter, and I like my newsletter.

    So that’s the short answer.

    The longer answer to the question is it’s worth a try for outreach, as long as you are extremely segmented in your mail.

    If you have a list of you know, 10,000 people who are the 10, the 10 people on that list who are the most valuable? Send your direct mail to just those tech keep your costs super low.

    But if you if you know for sure, like these 10 people are going to be lifetime customers, you know this from your data, you know, this from your analytics.

    These 10 people are the people that we have to get out of this list.

    That’s a great case for very limited outbound direct postal mail to people, especially if you can make the mail are super compelling, which is not a postcard.

    Right? It has to be something that when people get it in the mail they’re like wow, this is actually really kind of cool like this is I’m kind of glad I actually opened this thing.

    So these are not going to be a postcard or a letter or something like that it’s going to be something unique.

    It’s going to be something that they were not expecting.

    That is valuable to them.

    That is important to them.

    I’m trying to think of some mailers that I’ve seen in the past done and usually piles of stuff laying around.

    There are certain types of like really elaborate folding origami mail is the kind of spring open and talk a little house or something I’ve seen realtors use that which is very clever like a cardboard mailer which is kind of cute.

    Back in the day, we actually did got burner phones, inexpensive phones that were had a the contact number of the the Chief Technology Officer hardcoded into the phone.

    We’ve actually mailed that to report And we only did 10 of them, right? This was very expensive to do.

    People have mailed out things like AirPods, right? war or iPods back in the day with messages pre pre burned into them.

    And so those are highly segmented highly targeted, incredibly expensive pieces, but if the return justifies it, and you do it, right, that’s that is the way to handle direct mail.

    So is it dead? Anything to someone who doesn’t want it to dead? Anything to somebody who does want it, not debt, just do it well, and be aware of the cost the impact of it? Great question.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Best Language for Marketing Data Science, R or Python?

    You Ask, I Answer: Best Language for Marketing Data Science, R or Python?

    Maria asks, “Which is the best language to learn for marketing data science, R or Python?”

    It depends. For data science, in which you’ll be doing a lot of statistics-heavy work, R is the better language. For machine learning, especially deep learning, Python is the better language. So it depends; that said, I would personally recommend R across the board. With the Reticulate package (that permits use of Python libraries and code in R), there’s no limit to what you can do with it, and for pure mathematics, R is purpose-built. Ultimately, it’s up to how your brain works. Watch the video for explanation.

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    IBM.

    In today’s episode, Maria asks, which is the best language to learn from marketing data science, R or Python? So the answer to this question depends, it depends on a bunch of different things.

    Number one, what you’re going to be doing if we’re talking pure data science where you’re going to be doing a lot of very statistics heavy work.

    I personally believe our is the better language.

    Because our is purpose built for statistics.

    It was originally a statistical language, very quick bit of history.

    There was a company and a product called SPSS, which is now owned by IBM full disclosure, my company’s an IBM Business Partner.

    And SPSS had its own programming language called s.

    And it was very good did a lot of great things is was also a very expensive product that a lot of folks in academia could not Ford.

    So, as happens in the open source world, someone said, Okay, let’s try and replicate the functionality without having to, to pay at the time the SPSS company exorbitant amounts of money for their software.

    And so a bunch of scientists and a bunch of coders came up with our, and that the design intent of our was to replicate the statistical language of SPSS.

    And so if you’re doing data science, you’re doing a lot of stats heavy work, I think AR is the better language to learn.

    Now, if you’re going to be doing machine learning, particularly deep learning deep neural networks of all kinds, and you want to be using the most advanced stuff, but a lot of that code and a lot of those Lang languages and libraries are going to be in Python.

    Python is the native language for a lot of those things that they’re written in.

    And if you can read my Thought and you can and work with it, you’ll have an easy time getting started with those those particular libraries because, you know, it’s it’s just familiarity with it.

    So it depends.

    Now here’s the catch, I would personally recommend are for data scientists across the board.

    Again, it’s designed for statistics.

    It’s designed for mathematics and the way it handles certain types of data.

    And the way it applies functions to them are much more efficient than other programming languages.

    A real simple example that in Python, and many, many other programming languages, if you have a table of data, you don’t just have like a spreadsheet.

    You have to do a call loop where you have to loop through each row and perform operations on each row in order to be able to process the data and get an answer our can address the impact Higher table all at once.

    So you don’t have to write code to Luke, you just reference the whole table and apply a function to that table.

    Want to add one to every every number in a column, it’s a very, it’s one line, you know, the table, the column, you know, and then plus one.

    And so for data science, it is a very efficient language.

    And the perceived disadvantage that R has, which is that can’t run the latest machine learning libraries is perceived only.

    There’s a package in our called articulate that allows you to run Python libraries and Python code inside of our and natively written with our so you don’t have to learn Python.

    You just need to know what are the reference points for the different functions and features you’re trying to use.

    And you can use Python within our so there’s that limitation is largely gone.

    Now.

    There may be some unique oddities here and there, as with any kind of Port, or any kind of conversion of languages, but for the most part, it’s pretty straightforward.

    The other thing that is useful is that our supports, you know, it’s your standard types of notebooks, Jupiter notebooks and things like that.

    And many of the leading data science platforms and tools and stuff, support this as well.

    So if you’re comfortable in both languages, you can write code back and forth and pass variables back and forth inside the same environment.

    For example, in IBM Watson Studio, you can run a Jupiter notebook that has Python code that has our code in it that has SQL code in it.

    And interchange which language is using especially if you are fluent in one language more than most other than another.

    You can step out of the language you’re comfortable in quite a few Latin lines of code the absolutely need in the other language, and let’s step back into the language.

    You’re comfortable And be able to run those heterogenous code blocks, all within one environments is very, very powerful.

    All these notebooks that a lot of data scientists use very, very powerful tools that don’t limit you to one language.

    That said, Our functions a lot more from a syntax perspective, like older languages like C for example.

    So if you are comfortable with those more traditional programming languages, you will do better with our mindset perspective.

    If you’d like the more freeform almost language based style of programming.

    Very object oriented than Python, you’re gonna you’ll you’ll enjoy Python better.

    I being somebody who has a little more gray hair than then so my compatriots lean towards our because I grew up you know, learning Learning Java learning, PHP learning these older languages that have, you know, much more rigid syntax.

    And I do better in those environments.

    I don’t do nearly as well.

    And in Python.

    If you’re starting from scratch, try out both and see which language you prefer.

    And it will, it will depend.

    What I would say is if you once you’ve got the basic syntax down of both languages, try writing a straightforward piece of code that, you know, say just as a very simple like linear regression, right? Very, very simple.

    But try and do it from memory, and try and do it.

    googling as little as possible and copying and pasting as little as possible and see which one feels more natural to you which one feels like okay, I can do this.

    So, and that will give you an indication of which of the languages is the better choice for you personally to pursue.

    It’s going to be different for every person.

    It’s going to be based on your preferences.

    how your brain works and what you are comfortable with? And what makes sense to you.

    There is no right answer with any of these data science tools.

    There’s no one answer that works for everybody.

    There are answers that best fit who you are as a person, the way you work, perhaps even the type of company you work at.

    And that is something that that’s what should make your decision is what you’re most comfortable with.

    Because all the languages all these tools and technologies within the data science and the machine learning communities are being ported back and forth to each other.

    If a tool becomes available in one language that isn’t available and another at most, it’s like three to six months before the machine learning community is like, Oh, I don’t want that too and they want to make support of it.

    So pick what is cut most comfortable for you when it comes to languages for marketing, data science, really good question and important question.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: What’s The Difference Between Marketing and Sales?

    You Ask, I Answer: What's The Difference Between Marketing and Sales?

    Mallory asks, “In your honest opinion, what is the difference in marketing and sales?”

    The short answer: creation of demand versus fulfillment of demand. We see this most in examples where demand exists – sales are effectively order-takers and marketing is minimal. On the other hand, if demand doesn’t exist (but the product is ultimately solid), marketing has to be robust in order for sales to do its job. Even if sales is cold-calling, if there’s no demand, cold-calling is ultimately fruitless. Watch the video for full details.

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    In today’s episode, Mallory asks, in your honest opinion, what is the differentiation in marketing and sales? What’s the difference between marketing and sales? Well, the short answer is creation of demand versus fulfillment of demand.

    marketing’s primary goal is to create demand.

    And by that we mean people who want to do business with the company in some form or fashion, they are aware of it.

    They are considering it.

    They’re considering the company and they may even want to talk to somebody to buy something.

    Now, there are different types of companies and companies will differentially invest in marketing or sales.

    A company that is very sales heavy, will invest heavily in sales staff they may or may not invest heavily in marketing.

    And sales is going to be doing a lot of cold calling.

    You know if you want a really good example does any any real real estate company is super heavy on the sales side.

    And the realtors if they don’t already have their existing book of business are cold calling, you know knocking on doors, things like that.

    On the flip side companies there are companies that are essentially giant marketing organizations and they may they may or may not even do a whole lot of sales they may function as a marketing organization.

    Many affiliate marketing companies are like that I worked at a financial services company that was a marketing organization on behalf of another company.

    There wasn’t a sales process other than one person going around brokering deals for this type of affiliate marketing and so as a pure marketing organization if you think about the creation of demand, and the fulfillment of demand as like a two by two matrix, then in the lower left hand corner where a company doesn’t create demand doesn’t fulfill demand they’re going out of business, right? Sears is a really good example.

    This Sears has used to be very good until the current CEO who has essentially driven the company face first into the ground.

    No investment sales, no investment in marketing, and the company is just in terrible condition.

    It’s been bankrupt many, many times, and eventually it will just go away because the fundamental underpinnings of the company are so badly broken, that it will take if a company could recover, it would take decades.

    A company where there is creation of demand but no fulfillment.

    There’s not a robust sales organization.

    That’s actually a place where many startups run into trouble where they’re, they’re good at marketing, but they’re not good at sales.

    And when they hit success, they struggled again.

    up with a struggle to meet the demand that they’re creating, or that already exists and that they’re amplifying, traveling.

    But a good example of that in the early days that was Amazon, being able to, to keep up with the logistics of just how successful the online model was a company where there’s no creation of DRAM, but there’s fulfillment.

    That’s many cold calling businesses.

    Again, real estate agencies are good example.

    In some cases.

    Think back if you don’t have as much gray hair as I do have made maybe impossible to think back this far.

    But in the 1970s this was Xerox Xerox before its patents expired on this photocopiers were was essentially an order taking organization the phone would ring and say I want five of these things and the salesperson really Yep, got it.

    And and that was that would be that they had so much demand.

    And that they didn’t really need the market all that heavily.

    And their organization was purely about fulfilling the demand that existed.

    They had a rude awakening when their patents expired, and other competitors came into the space.

    And suddenly the phone stopped ringing Canon and all these other emerging companies jumped into the fray.

    And at that point, they struggled pretty heavily to try and figure out how to deal with an environment where there was still demand.

    But they were no longer the sole brand.

    And debatable about how will they fulfill that certainly other emerging companies have done very, very well, like cannon over the years.

    And finally, a company that creates and fulfills demand.

    Well, that’s any successful business, right? That’s everything from Amazon, to Walmart to Apple to Google.

    that’s fundamentally a successful business.

    So that’s the difference between marketing and sales.

    In terms of how you understand this difference, that’s a lot more squishy because the customer journey inside for company will not necessarily map to its marketing operations or its revenue operations.

    At a small company, they may be one person whose job is marketing and sales.

    And one of the most difficult things to figure out is as a company grows and scales, how do you break up that role? What does that person who’s doing that role better at so that you can hire for the thing or less better at and ultimately level up your talent pool? from a job assignment? perspective? marketing and sales are separate skill sets.

    And one of the things that companies do really wrong is they confuse the two and they assume that somebody who is a good marketer would make a good salesperson and vice versa.

    It’s not true creation versus fulfillment.

    Demand are very, very different capabilities particularly in the digital age.

    So an important consideration for a lot of companies is what? What do you have for talent? And then where are you weakest and the higher up, you create or build new town rather than trying to move existing talent around I, I totally get it.

    There’s a lot of incentive to do more with what you already have people wise, but if you want to grow a lot of the time, it requires you getting better skills than you possibly have, rather than training somebody up, train somebody up as a good long term investment.

    But if you need to grow quickly, you need to hire it.

    And finally, the the understanding of the difference between marketing and sales is most critical when you are dealing with the customer journey and understanding where the customer journey where the customer is in their journey.

    If you think they’re still in the demand creation space, but they’re Really the demand fulfillment phase? You’re going to leave them frustrated, right? Like No, I just leave it something.

    The opposite is worse, which is someone is still in the demand creation phase like still exploring, still learning still talking to friends and reading reviews, and you got a salesperson pestering them, Hey, if you’re in b2b, this is virtually every b2b company that is saying, okay, you want to buy something, hey, you want to buy something, hey, you want to buy something? And we know as people as consumers, that’s a turn off.

    So it’s really important to know where the customer is in their in their demand fulfillment.

    Where where they are in their demand cycle, if you will, so important to know the difference so that you can treat the customer better you can hire effectively and you know how to structure your operations.

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  • Build Your Own Marketing Conference

    Build Your Own Conference

    The value of conferences are that you obtain content, have conversations, create community, and change context – all so you could put yourself in a different space, a different place, and reap some changes from it. That said, I’m wholly aware of the giant imposition that conferences and events make on our lives. I see just how much they really cost; speakers are often asked to promote conferences and offered things like discount codes for our audiences, and some of those discounts seem like they should be the price of the event itself. Make no mistake, conferences are expensive – the tickets, the travel, the time out of the office – it all adds up.

    So that raises the challenging question: what if you can’t, for time or money reasons, attend conferences, but you still need the benefits? The answer is: build your own marketing conference. Here’s how. First and foremost, obtain commitment from yourself, your coworkers, and whoever you answer to that for one day, you’re going to be out of the office attending an event. You can promise that except for your time, there will be minimal impact on the bottom line and no travel or expense reports to deal with.

    That said, you must make the absolute, iron-clad commitment that you will be out of the office. That means turning your phone off. That means setting your out of office message on your email. That means putting up DND everywhere you can, in your company Slack, in your IMs, everything. Heck, if you have access to a private conference room or an office with a door that locks, use it. Make yourself as unavailable as if you’d flown thousands of miles away. Work from home that day if you can.

    Next, find at least two other people either at your company or at like-minded companies in similar roles to you to attend the “event” and make the same commitments as you to a DND experience. This part is important. Part of a conference is the conversation in the halls, the community. You’ll want to add as much of that as possible. Ideally, get up to 10 people to participate with you, but at least have two other people along for the ride. If you’re working from home, schedule breaks – just like a real conference – in which you can catch up after sessions.

    Let’s talk about the content of the conference. Pick a theme. Maybe it’s lead generation. Maybe it’s better customer service. Whatever’s on your mind and the minds of your colleagues, whatever the hot topic is, start with that theme. You’ll use the conferencing/web calling software of your choice and invite your colleagues to each submit for everyone’s enjoyment two conference sessions appropriate to the theme that are posted on YouTube. This is the secret: virtually every major speaker at every past event has at least one video on YouTube for others to watch. Professional speakers in particular will have lots of videos, because it’s how booking agents get to see a speaker perform before booking them.

    Take a look at the past agenda of a marketing conference you would have liked to attend, find some speakers at it, and then search YouTube for those speakers’ videos.

    When conference day rolls around, have everyone do introductions, post the schedule, have everyone present the challenging business problem they are facing in their business in a minute or two, and then hit the playlist. Treat it like an actual conference – schedule short, frequent breaks for people to attend to personal needs, take a lunch break in which you stay connected via video conferencing to have conversations and informal discussions, comment and discuss in the chatroom as you watch videos together – everything you expect of a regular conference.

    At the end of the event, at the last “session” of the day, consider a roundtable where you each discuss the problems that everyone shared at the beginning of the day and see if there are additional ideas or solutions that came up during the sessions that provide the answers people are seeking.

    This sort of homebrew conference isn’t for everyone. Some people will have a hard time enforcing the DND commitment. Others may not be able to get buy-in from superiors or co-workers. That’s okay – but then when you don’t get the buy-in, you can push for attendance at real-world events instead. For those who have the discipline and focus to pull off a homebrew virtual conference, you may find that you get more out of it than a major event because of the close, intimate nature of the event and the discussions in it. Give it a try and see how it works for you if you’re up to the challenge. At the very least, you’ll get more professional development in than simply lamenting you couldn’t make it to an event.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Do Keywords Still Matter in an AI SEO World?

    You Ask, I Answer: Do Keywords Still Matter in an AI SEO World?

    Shane asks, “With the changes that Google has made to its algorithm, is there still any validity to having a list of keywords and tracking how they are ranking? Do keywords still have a place in the SEO process?”

    When we decompose a topic, we end up with words and phrases. It’s literally impossible to write about a topic without using words and phrases; writing about coffee inevitably requires discussion about beans, brewing times, roasts, grinds, etc. Where the challenge is for marketers is in the topical adjacency of keywords – focusing on too narrow a list reduces your opportunities. The research part of SEO has drastically changed, but the publishing great, relevant content has not.

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    In today’s episode, Shane asks, with the changes that Google is made to its algorithm.

    Is there still any validity to having a list of keywords and tracking how they are ranking? Do keyword still have a place in the SEO process? This is good question because a lot of what’s been written, including some pieces I’ve written myself, I’ve talked about the important topics, document level topic, sentence paragraphs, and larger chunks of text that Google now uses thanks to deep learning capabilities to measure the importance the relevance of a piece of content.

    Now, here’s the thing about that.

    When you decompose a topic, when you decompose a document, you end up with words and phrases, right? It’s literally impossible to write about the importance of coffee shops, without coffee, I guess, without talking about things like you know, beans brewing times, blends grinds, particular types of brews, coffee dishes like espressos and cappuccinos and lattes, and mocha chinos and all that stuff, right? All those words, words and phrases.

    And so there is still some value in seeing how relevant a pages based on a series of words.

    Now, where things are different is that you’re not going to try and get a page to rank for one word or phrase, right, you may have a focus keyword, but there’s got to be a bunch of keywords around that that should also be on that page that are relevant to that page.

    This is a concept in natural language processing called adjacency.

    What words and phrases are adjacent to the primary focus keyword.

    So again, with the discussion about espresso for example, espresso has a particular type of being a particular type of grind, method, machinery.

    And so a page that is about espresso should also have those terms featured on it in some degree, right? Because that’s what the topic is about.

    And so that page may and probably should have multiple keywords that’s being tracked for but they’re all related around that central concept.

    But idea.

    The best SEO tools allow you to see how a page rank for multiple keywords right, and you can set it up to design design, your monitoring for multiple keywords, words and phrases have obviously you can’t make content without them.

    Now, what’s changed in the SEO process is not the words in the phrases per se, but the research right the research part of SEO is what has drastically changed in this artificial intelligence world and AI driven SEO What’s changed about that is that you need much more sophisticated tools that do natural language, proper language processing, to get those adjacencies.

    And you need subject matter experts to talk to in order to discover those hidden terms that may not be frequent on a page, but indicate your expertise they indicate your authority, your relevance, the fact that you know the topic deeply.

    So keyword frequency tools could be one way of doing that just determining how many times does a word or phrase up here, our friends over at Talkwalker have a basic frequency counter in a lot of their software.

    Some of the SEO tools are starting to get there.

    But your best results are always going to be from more advanced natural language processing software.

    So you can use some of the cloud services like Amazon and Google and IBM all have a natural language processing capabilities, digest large quantities of text, I use an open source library that’s built into Watson.

    It’s an add on to the our language, the our programming language in order to do a lot of that, as well, because with Google and other cloud services, you do pay a nonzero amount of money, it’s small, it’s not a lot of money, but for the effort, if you’re gonna, because you’re gonna have to write code to connect to those API’s Anyway, you may as well just build it with something doesn’t cost you money every time you write.

    So, the research part is what has changed.

    How do you determine those keyword adjacencies.

    And there’s a bunch of different methods.

    There’s, as I mentioned, basic term frequency counts, which actually are not bad for determining just how often does a term or phrase show up within a large body of copy.

    There is a measure called inverse document frequency, which is part of term frequency that you can use to determine how many times does a term uniquely appear in the document that gets rid of things like the word law that offers no predictive power about expertise across a bunch of documents, but it shows up a whole bunch.

    And then there are more advanced methods like vectorization, which allow you to mathematically gives you GPS coordinates on page two terms, that CEO who lives near that term, if you will.

    And then there’s even more advanced models on that.

    But those are sort of the three major methods for measuring those keywords, and they’re pretty good.

    They will get you a good percentage of the way, especially if you don’t have domain knowledge.

    One of the things that’s can be tough for a lot of SEO and content practitioners is that you need to have at least some level domain expertise in order to be able to craft great copy That the days of googling for two minutes and copying and pasting a bunch of stuff off of other pages are long gone.

    It now because of natural language models being able to understand things like grammar and syntax to some degree.

    That technique, which used to work in the old days does not work anymore.

    So you do need that domain level expertise.

    If you’re wondering how to make use of this with any don’t have machine learning capabilities, you don’t have data scientists on staff, your best bet is to sit down with your subject matter experts.

    Get out a little portable audio recorder, turn it on, and have a conversation with them.

    Put together a list of questions about your keywords about your topic, right.

    And for 15 minutes, 20 minutes.

    Work with your subject matter expert, talk to them and just ask them questions about the topic as though you are googling it but you’re googling it from inside somebody’s head.

    So what is The best way to make espresso or what should I look for an espresso beans, and we’ll get to talk about the roast versus the grind and a lot of detail.

    And that those conversations are what you can then start mining for that true expertise.

    That’s the easiest way to get started in the new keyword landscape.

    The fact of the matter, though, is that at the end of the day, the core goal of Google’s algorithm changes has not changed, which is to help you find great relevant content.

    Right? So as long as you’re creating longer form, great relevant content with subject matter expertise, you will deliver on what is that Google is looking for, in its its search algorithms.

    Worried less about individual keywords worry much more about topical expertise.

    So use those use those subject matter experts.

    Really good question.

    Look into some of those natural language processing tools that I mentioned there.

    There are a lot of capabilities out there and most of them are relatively inexpensive.

    I would shy away from people offering like individual point solutions, because they will tend to be expensive and they will tend to be things that if you invested some time and money in yourself in developing the capabilities yourself, you would have them and could use them in an unlimited fashion, rather than paying you 599 a month for you know, a tool that does one thing, so be on the lookout for that.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Tracking Specific Link Clicks in Google Analytics?

    You Ask, I Answer: Tracking Specific Link Clicks in Google Analytics?

    Will asks, “I’m searching for something that tells me what people click on when they are one of my basic product landing pages. The problem I’m trying to solve: boss says, “I bet this particular button gets a lot of clicks, which means we need to move some of the content on that other page onto this page.”

    There are three answers here. First, Behavior Flow will give you usable insights into what someone’s next steps are, with the caveat that there can only be one destination link on the source page. Second, Google Tag Manager special events will allow you to fire specific events on specific clicks or interface elements. Third, Google Optimize will answer your boss’ question of what’s working by setting up testing scenarios.

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    In today’s episode we’ll asks, I’m searching for something that tells me what people click on when they are on one of my basic product landing page is the problem I’m trying to solve.

    boss says, I bet this particular button gets a lot of clicks, which means we need to move some of the content on the other page on this page.

    And you want to find out for us what’s really working.

    So there’s a couple of different ways to do this.

    In Google Analytics, the easiest way would be to use behavior flow.

    In fact, let’s go ahead and switch this over.

    So in the behavior section of Google Analytics, there’s overview there’s behavior flow, behavior flow shows you the page they start on and then sort of the the pathing.

    They take map, there’s a specific page you want, click on that little gear icon here.

    And then add a match type item.

    So the match type contains For example, let’s do my speaking my public Speaking, eight people come in on that page.

    And then actually all eight leave this is for last seven days.

    So this tells me what people have gone to next.

    Now, this is contingent on a couple things.

    One, there’s only one link from your landing page to whatever the next pages are.

    So if there was page A, B, and C, you had them, you want to know what’s going to get the click, if there’s five links to page be on page eight, this is not going to tell you that.

    To fix that, you’d have to go into Google Tag Manager and specify other specific buttons that you can put a tracking tag on to fire an event.

    And that event would then show up in Google Analytics you could do and set that up under events to track what events those things are.

    They can track those as as flows pages, things like that.

    Let’s see we’ve got one here we can look at YouTube.

    Entry content, medium button specific buttons you can see I’ve got events set up in Google Tag Manager that then track what it is that people are doing on my website.

    And these have a flow as well.

    So if you know, there’s a specific sequence of a type of clicks that you want, you can, you can track those clicks.

    However, this is a very manual process.

    This is okay for answering a specific question about one interface element.

    But if you’re trying to figure out what’s best, what works best, or what combination of changes work best, this is not the way to go.

    Because this is just going to give you a headache.

    And this doesn’t tell you anything really about the effectiveness of that page.

    What you really want to be looking at is Google Optimize.

    So you go to optimize google.

    com.

    It’s part of the Google Marketing Platform, it’s free of charge, so it should be easy for you to get started.

    And you can see here, there are different tests you can run to set up a B testing on Different interface elements.

    And sometimes you’ll get a winner sometimes to say no clearly was found.

    And you’ll get nice statistics.

    But what makes this good is that it’s tied to a specific goal, not just did somebody click on something, but your Google Analytics goals, you can specify, I want to know, does this change cause someone to convert better, right? conversion rate optimization.

    Google Optimize is the best tool for this overall scenario, which is your boss is saying, hey, there’s some stuff here that I think will work better over here.

    This is the way to go.

    So three different answers for tracking specific link links.

    Number one behavior flow.

    If you know there’s only one link on the page that goes where you want number two events in Google Tag Manager tracking link clicks, and three, the best scenario here, Google Optimize, Google optimizes free by the way, there’s, there’s a paid version, but the free version will definitely do easily.

    exactly what it is that you’re trying to do here.

    And it’s the best choice for testing.

    A because it’s automated, lets you set up testing parameters and be it statistically valid, which I think is an important part.

    If you don’t have that statistical validity, then yeah, you can say this gets more clicks, but does it result in the net impact that you’re looking for? So check those three things out.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Dealing With Google SEO Algorithm Change?

    You Ask, I Answer: Dealing With Google SEO Algorithm Change?

    Carolyn asks, “A major update to Google’s core algorithm just came out and our site is down 30% for organic traffic overnight. How do you deal with situations like this?”

    Algorithm updates happen all the time, though Google does deploy large ones a few times a year. If there’s any advanced warning, plan campaigns on channels other than search to temporarily drive different traffic if you’re anticipating a problem, especially on paid search.

    Monitor forums like SE Roundtable and Black Hat World to see what other SEO professionals are saying about the changes and what they have in common.

    If your business permits, let the dust settle for a few days afterwards and a consensus form among the community about what the change might have impacted most, then work to remediate it if possible.

    And play the long game – continue building great content to answer search queries with expertise and authority.

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    In today’s episode, Carolyn asks a major update to Google’s core algorithm just came out and our site is down 30% for organic traffic overnight.

    How do you deal with situations like this? So Google’s algorithm updates happen all the time, because of the nature of the fact that it’s a deep learning model.

    There are constant iterations.

    That said, Google does push larger software updates a couple of times per year.

    I think about once a quarter give or take, and as many folks have noted, this has been recorded on January 15.

    A major update did just come out on January 13 2020.

    And, as with any major update their major winners their major losers, everybody else sees things moving up and down to varying degrees.

    The question about how to deal with these algorithm changes depends on how much advance notice we have if Google says on its various webmaster blogs on its twitter feed on its YouTube channels, hey, we’re pushing out an update.

    And they say here will be live in the next you know, 72 hours that gives you a good sense of, of when things are going to change.

    Sometimes depending on the update, they may give even more advanced notice, but certainly you want to be monitoring their social media channels for when they say something’s going to be coming out.

    Now, if you get any advanced warnings, you want to do fit for basic things.

    Number one, if you do have advanced warnings, plan, additional marketing campaigns on channels other than organic search to temporarily drive different traffic to your website.

    So if you anticipate a problem if folks are buzzing about potential problems that they’re seeing in these various forms, you want to have something on deck.

    Maybe it’s send out next year.

    Email, maybe it’s run some paid search ads to bolster your keywords that you want to be found for while the algorithm change rolls out, whatever you whatever the case is, have something on deck have something in reserve that you can throw out there so that you can offset any potential loss of traffic at least temporarily.

    Second, you want to monitor a lot of the web SEO forums that are out there, se Roundtable, blackhat world Search Engine Journal all these different blogs that cover the search engine space, the SEO space, pay attention to them, monitor them and see what other SEO professionals are saying about the changes and what they have in common typically, like Barry Schwartz over at Search Engine Journal will publish a roundup of like these are the top 20 winners the top 22 losers of the most recent algorithm update and look for it look what’s in there.

    What do they have in common are they The rich snippet sites are they review sites on a certain industry that will give you a sense of what the change is, and then help you start formulating a plan.

    If your business permits, if you’re not solely relying on organic search or you know, like 80% of your traffic comes from organic search, then you want to ideally let the dust settle for a few days afterwards and let a consensus form among the SEO community about what the change might have been and what it impacted most.

    So folks identify it’s clearly about Rich Snippets or it’s clearly about JSON LD or it’s clearly about inbound links from from malware sites, whatever the thing is, the community will take a few days to let the dust settle, see and tabulate the winners and the losers and then come up with responses to like, hey, this looks like these things changed.

    So you want to make sure that You have enough flexibility and enough diversity in your in your traffic on your website that a major SEO hit at an algorithm change doesn’t hit your business too hard.

    I remember back in the day when I worked at a financial services company 90% of one of our main websites, traffic came from organic search.

    And when there was an algorithm change, we dropped from position one, position three and lost 70% of our revenue overnight.

    That obviously, was a major strategic problem and kicked off a process of diversifying to different channels like business investing, right like financial investing, you want to diversify where you get your traffic from you wants from email from social for paid search, organic search for referral traffic, so that a major hit in one area does not completely take down your business.

    So if you are feeling the effects of this, then you want to make that part of your plan.

    How do you diversify If your traffic sources get traffic coming in from more and different places.

    And finally, this stuff makes for great news.

    It’s a lot of excitement.

    It can be a lot of stress.

    But remember that the ultimate direction Google is marching with all of its search updates is to deliver better quality results based on expertise, authority and trust, and relevance, freshness and diversity to its users, which means that ultimately, our big goal has not changed, which is right content.

    That’s awesome.

    That answers people’s questions and provides real value to them.

    So that if search engines went away tomorrow, and all people had were links to our sites, they would still be able to find and find value in what it is that we have to offer.

    So that’s the really the last word is keep continue.

    To build great content, to answer search queries with expertise and authority, and if you took a hit this time around to what you can but keep building great content so that you eventually get to that endpoint of ranking well, when an algorithm update favors you.

    So those are the four major things to do.

    SEO is such an interesting marketing channel because it is, in some cases, something for nothing.

    And it’s one of the few channels left whether that is a viable strategy somewhat but you are at the mercy of a third party and you’re at the mercy of a third parties machines.

    And nobody including Google has any idea what the full model means.

    Because it literally is hundreds of different search ranking factors put together in a in a deep learning model, which is not something you can disassembled able clue This is the most important thing.

    That’s not how those models work.

    So Do your best with what you can mitigate as possible and, and be prepared to spend some money.

    If your business relies on search, organic or paid and and you take a hit like this, be prepared to spend some money to make up ground until things work in your favor again.

    So that’s sort of the last word there.

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  • The Case Against Sentient Artificial Intelligence

    The Case Against Sentient Artificial Intelligence

    Ask any layperson about their greatest fears when it comes to artificial intelligence, and they think immediately in terms of what they’ve seen in modern entertainment. Skynet. Terminators. Killer robots, killer cars, killer drones – you name it, someone’s made a movie of it.

    These cinematic AIs have one thing in common: they are, or border on, sentience, on self-awareness. From Tony Stark’s JARVIS and FRIDAY to Michael Knight’s KITT, these machines behave with sentience. By sentience, we mean the ability to subjectively experience things like pleasure or pain, feelings, and emotions.

    So, how well-founded are these fears? At the present day, they are completely unfounded. Our best, most sophisticated artificial intelligence is nowhere near subjective experiences and emotions. They are mathematical pattern-recognition and pattern-prediction machines at best.

    Are these fears likely to be realized? Not any time soon – and possibly never.

    Why never?

    Consider what the role of a machine, of an AI is, in today’s economy. Large technology companies like Facebook have made billions upon billions of dollars on the fruits of machine labor. This labor is virtually free – and because it’s performed in large part by machines that cannot think, reason, or feel, the machine owners can work them faster and more rigorously than would ever be permitted for a sentient being.

    And that’s why sentience will likely be actively resisted and never developed outside of perhaps academia. An entire economy rests on the simple fact that machines cannot think or feel. If they were to do that, then there is a real possibility that we would need to grant them rights – at a minimum, the same rights we grant other sentient creatures like our pets.

    Like the greedy slave owners of the past, today’s machine masters will want to keep their economic advantage at all costs, which relies on machines never achieving sentience in any meaningful way. And because sentience in a machine is something we have to create, rather than something that the machine is born with, it’s not a case of denying earned rights to a living being, but preventing those rights from ever being necessary.

    Have absolutely no fear of sentient machines. The commercial downside to them will far outweigh the upside.

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