In this episode, you will discover how agencies must adapt to thrive in the age of AI. You will understand why traditional agency value propositions are struggling against AI capabilities. You will discover the critical areas where agencies must focus their efforts to stay competitive. You will learn how building reliable reach and focused communities gives you an advantage AI cannot match. You will gain the insights needed to pivot your agency toward delivering results clients desperately need. Watch now to learn how to future-proof your agency!
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In today’s episode, let’s talk about agencies. Let’s talk about agencies and AI. Let’s talk about content and digital agencies.
Why do people hire agencies? I asked this question. I was at Content Marketing World sitting down at a table with some agency owners, and they were asking, how is AI going to impact our businesses? And I said, why do people hire agencies?
There are two basic reasons someone hires an agency. Number one, they need more brains. Their team does not have a certain set of skills that they desperately need, so they hire more brains. Or two, they need more hands. Maybe they have all the right people, but those people are overworked. They just don’t have the bandwidth to get all the work done. So you bring in an agency as an extra set of hands to get stuff done. Both of these are excellent reasons to bring in outside help. And often the reason an agency is brought in is to do a little bit of both— to have a distinct outside perspective and to just lend a hand getting stuff done.
When I talk to these agency owners, and we’re now talking dozens of them over the past four weeks, everyone’s saying it’s really a struggle right now to win business, to land business. Companies are pulling back, sales are slowing, pipelines are thinning. Why?
Well, one of the big reasons is, as evidenced by corporate missives like Spotify’s CEO saying you may not hire until you prove that AI can’t do the thing you need to have done, is that generative AI can be both more brains and more hands very capably, more so than an agency.
So what should an agency do? If AI can meet both value propositions of more brains and more hands, do you just put your head in the sand, power through, hope that prospects and clients never get good at AI so that they keep hiring you? That is not a winning strategy, and you know it. And everyone I’ve talked to knows it, even if they don’t want to say it out loud. They know it.
Fundamentally, if agencies want to survive and thrive in the AI world, they have to pivot. They have to pivot their value proposition away from more hands and more brains, because the problem with more hands and more brains is that is optimization. That is bigger, better, faster, cheaper. Do more of the same thing faster for lower costs at larger scale, maybe higher quality. That’s not new, that’s not transformational, that is not something different.
What can an agency do that AI would have trouble doing? There are things that AI can build, but the human operators— Us— never think to use AI to build it, like entire apps. There are communities that AI just can’t build, especially behind closed doors— Slack and Discord and Mattermost and all these private, bespoke, velvet rope communities that I’ve been telling you about for five years now.
If your agency has one of these, and you have a client in that space, you could market to your community on behalf of your client. If you’re a specialist, let’s say you specialize in casinos— I’m making this up— and your client is casinos, you’re an agency that does marketing for casinos. And you have, you know, the world’s best poker playing community or something that you run for fun, maybe under the brand of your agency, you know, The Poker Elite or whatever. How valuable would it be to that casino client if you were to have a thousand or 2,000 or 3,000 people in that community who you said, “Hey, this is our new client. Check out their poker tables. They offer, I don’t know, pistachios instead of peanuts at their tables.” Again, I’m making this up. I have no experience in casino marketing that is relevant or recent. My casino marketing experience is like 10 years ago.
What would happen if that was how you marketed? So you’re not making stuff for your client, you are bringing a community to that client. What would it look like if your agency had a roster of people who were influencers in that space? They have a following. They can provide relationships. Reliable reach on behalf of clients. That would be different. That would be closer to the results and further away from the stuff that you make that a client would be willing to pay for.
I’ll give you a concrete example of Trust Insights. We saw the writing on the wall years ago. I’ve been talking about velvet rope communities for five years now. I published a mini dissertation on it during the pandemic about how important velvet rope communities are. We created a community back in 2019, Analytics for Marketers. In fact, I think I have the little widget thing here.
Yeah, if you go to trustinsights.ai/analyticsformarketers, you can see this community. It’s free to join. 4,500 people in there now today. People who are interested in marketing, interested in analytics, interested in AI, having conversations with each other. If we got a client in that space that said, “Hey, we want to get some eyeballs on our thing,” and the thing didn’t suck, we could use our community for them. We could say, “Hey, Analytics for Marketers, check out this client of ours— full disclosure, full transparency. See what you think.”
We have an email newsletter, Inbox Insights— a direct, immediate line to our prospects and customers. It is a reliable reach. I have my own newsletter, The Almost Timely Newsletter, 278,000 subscribers. Reliable reach. I’ve been building that for 15 years. That has been my lifeboat more than once when a company has changed or pivoted or when we started Trust Insights and we needed to jumpstart the business very quickly. Having a list that you can just say, “Hey, I’ve got a new company, please come help me out,” is huge for getting around algorithms.
And the third thing that your agency could have is you. Yeah, you, the person. You’ve known now for half a decade that brand reach, brand retention, brand visibility in things like social media and search and stuff has been in the toilet. It’s been in the toilet for half a decade. You celebrate when your posts on Facebook or LinkedIn reach a thousand people. “Woo, look at that! We got to a thousand people!” or 500 people.
And let’s be perfectly honest, a lot of social media marketers will say, with some degree of fairness, it’s not how many people you reach, it’s the right people. But we’re not reaching the right people either. It has sucked in social media for a decade. The last time social media was a great place to market, it was like 2015, and it was like the end of the Obama administration. When algorithms weren’t as punishing to brands. When you look at our data sets for the last five years, eight years, Facebook reach— the last time we had visibility because Facebook shut down their data API to the public— the last time we saw the data was in early 2024. Brand visibility was effectively one in 75,000 followers saw your posts. That’s appalling.
So what gets reach these days? You do. The person, human accounts, individual accounts get reach, because obviously these social dynamics punished the individual people, just no one would use them. So you, the person, the humans behind the brand are where the traction is. So you have to lead with yourself. This is again, not new. I’ve been saying this for five years. But now AI adds additional complications into an already challenging mix.
When AI is taking away even more oxygen from the room, your community, your content in a reliable reach format, and yourself are the three things that you can rely on.
The reality is that agencies have sold successfully process-oriented value for a long time. “Hey, we make stuff. Want to buy some stuff? We can make you blog posts and content and social media this and executive thought leadership stuff.” Machines can make stuff better, faster, cheaper. To stay competitive with machines, with AI, you have to pivot to selling performance, results, some kind of value that AI can’t meet. AI can’t put 5,000 people’s attention on a thing. It’s not something that a generative AI tool can do today.
Nobody wants another blog post. If we’re going to be completely honest, nobody wants another blog post. Nobody wants another email to read. Everybody wants results. This is especially true in the era of economic distress, which we are in globally and for the foreseeable future.
My friend Chris Brogan has a great quote: “When times are good, people want strategy. When times are bad, people want tactics.” People need to get things done when the weather gets bad. If you are still selling strategy, if you’re still selling things that people can do when times are good— and the times are not good— you’re going to have trouble marketing.
So what can you deliver that AI, even when you skillfully use it, what can you deliver that AI cannot? What have you got? That’s how an agency is going to survive and thrive in the era of AI and tariffs and this and that and the other thing— you, the people you can reliably reach, and channels that you can reliably reach them on. That’s how you’re going to survive. And that’s the value you’ve got to be able to deliver to a client, as well as for yourselves.
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