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  • You Ask, I Answer: Scheduling Availability When Working From Home?

    You Ask, I Answer: Scheduling Availability When Working From Home?

    Sarah asks, “QUESTION: WITH SO MANY OF US WORKING FROM HOME RIGHT NOW, HOW DO YOU COMMUNICATE AVAILABILITY TO YOUR CLIENTS AND SET EXPECTATIONS ON RESPONSE TIME?”

    Use great calendaring software that offers allocated blocks of time. You set your working hours first, then set up what size windows you want to offer. Your calendaring software should do the rest, showing available slots that they can book. Hubspot, Google Calendar, Outlook, and many others all support this either natively or with a service like Doodle or Calendly.

    For response times, it depends on what’s in the service level agreement. If there isn’t one, then set expectations appropriately for what you’re able to do based on what unscheduled blocks of time you have throughout the day. If your calendar is completely full, then you have to set expectations for next-day response times.

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    In today’s episode Sarah asks, question was so many of us working from home right now? How do you communicate availability to your clients and set expectations on response times? So, this is a couple things.

    Number one, you have to know what was contractually agreed.

    If you are in the service industry and your company has signed a service agreement with the client specifying what the service level agreement is like, you’ll receive a response within an hour, etc, then you have to adhere to that, right? You have to do what is in the paperwork.

    And if you have to, then you know, I would strongly suggest modifying your calendar so that there are blocks of time that are locked off, you know, 15 minutes every hour for client response time so that people cannot schedule a meeting over you.

    The number one rule of calendar And scheduling is this.

    If you do not control your time, your time will control you.

    Right if you do not set limitations and expectations and program them into a system and then live by that system, you will get overwhelmed very, very quickly.

    One of the things we do at Trust Insights is in our calendar invite system when you want to have an invite, they have the oddest times they’re offset by five or 10 minutes.

    Again, so that if you’re if you happen to have back to back meetings, you want that 10 minute buffer after each meeting to you know, use the restroom, for example, grab a cup of coffee, whatever the case is, you have to have that buffer in place and if you do not put it in, no one is going to give it to you.

    So you control your time or your time controls you.

    That’s the rule.

    Now.

    You should be using great calendaring software that offers allocated blocks of time when it comes to sort of work life balance when you’re working from home.

    You have to set your working hours first.

    So in your calendaring system, you set your working hours, I’m in the office from 9am to 4pm, or 9am to 5pm, whatever it is your business operates as a standard operating procedure.

    And then you put blocks in your calendar that say, or your calendar software, depending on who you use may offer those working hours settings and say these are my working hours.

    When someone goes to schedule a meeting outside of those hours automatically gets rejected says outside of working hours.

    That solves a lot of drama by itself because you can say, Yep, this is what I’m available.

    You block those things off.

    The next thing is to set up an invite system.

    You decide what Windows you want to invite people, you know, 25 minutes, 50 minutes, 40 minutes, etc.

    And then your calendaring software should do the rest.

    Your calendaring software should be able to say here’s let’s create an invite link for a 25 minute meeting or a 40 minute meeting or a 15 minute meeting and then you give That link to your clients, you give that link to your co workers etc.

    And then they get to choose when they want their meeting but within the boundaries of the calendar so the software will not let you over book another meeting.

    software will not let you book a meeting outside of working hours.

    If you have specific times you can say like I’m available from one to 3pm every day, and then people can choose their slots within that time.

    That’s the best way to do it.

    Because then you are giving limited control to your customers but you’re giving them control you’re giving them their choice of picking from available times, but with the understanding that this is what’s available.

    Now you can and you should depending on the client and their importance to your company.

    Be ready to make exceptions.

    But for the most part, you want to stick to the system as well.

    Best you can because that way, everyone is clear on what the expectations are.

    This is when services available, etc.

    This is when to stop.

    If your calendaring system does not offer that, like for example, I don’t think Microsoft Outlook offers those exact features, you can use third party services like doodle or calendly.

    To help gap fill other services like Google Calendar, and HubSpot, and such offer that scheduling services natively, it’s natively available within the software, when it comes to response times, again, depends on what’s in the contract and the service level agreement.

    If if you have a 10 minute mandated response time, you have a you have to adhere to that.

    And so one of the things you would need to do is in your calendars, set blocks of time that people can’t schedule over, you know, 10 minutes in the middle of the hour, 10 minutes at the end of the hour.

    And then, you know, work your meetings around that as best as you can.

    So that you can address those needs.

    has to happen.

    Now if your calendar is completely full, then need to move some stuff around to make time for that service level agreement.

    If you don’t have one, then you need to figure out what that agreement would look like informally with setting expectations with your clients.

    So the easiest way to do that is to look at your last two or three weeks of a calendar time appointments.

    And see how many free blocks of time and how long they are throughout the day.

    If your calendar is nine to five, completely solid, then you can’t do anything except me Oh, next day response time.

    So you have to set the expectations.

    If on the other hand, you have set down an allocated, you know 15 or 20 minutes every two hours and you can say yes, we’ll set up a a two hour response time.

    Your concerns will be answered within those two hours it will be acknowledged acknowledged within those two hours then you’ll book the work from that If additional work needs to be booked on top of what’s already in there, this requires you to have great time tracking and such because one of the things that happens, especially in agency life, is that clients like to have the service available, but then they don’t like to pay for the hours that you use.

    So having discipline around your calendar allows you to reduce both problems.

    If you say to a client, hey, you have 10 hours of paid service time, because a lot of agencies work on the odd hours.

    How do you want to use them this month, you know how many hours you want to book for actual work and how many hours you want to book for meetings and calls.

    Again, you’re giving limited control to the client saying here’s what’s available, you have these 10 coins to spend and you spend them in the way that you want them to be spent.

    If the client says I want to spend a time on on meetings, cool, you’ll get a lot of meetings and you’ll get to want to work but you will not get 10 hours worth of work in addition to eight hours of meetings, it’s, it’s just setting those expectations up front.

    If you have a client that does not respect those limits, then you and your manager need to work with them and be more clear about those expectations to say like, Hey, here’s what you have allocated.

    Here’s what is you have paid for if you want to pay for more.

    You’re welcome to never say no to a client.

    Say, here’s how you can get more by paying more.

    And what tends happen an awful lot of the time his clients like yeah, you know, nevermind.

    And sometimes there’s a legitimate need to say cool, I will pay more.

    So you don’t say no, you just say it will be more expensive.

    That typically ends the discussion right there most of the time.

    It certainly would.

    It was case in the public relations world.

    At the end of the day, literally.

    It is all about you having the discipline to run your calendar.

    So setting expectations and then using a system that allows you to control your time.

    Remember to book things like lunch, right? Set 45 minutes on the calendar every day for lunch and then stick to that.

    Make sure that again, the software you’re using if somebody tries to schedule over an existing blockage is automatically rejected.

    Don’t just bounce it back, say, you know, that block is not available.

    In many cases, I know for Google Calendar, you can for Outlook you can you can share a link to your calendar that it just only shows free busy and to say like, Look, here’s what’s available, right and if they if your your clients can see Oh, wow, there’s, you know, no available for a week and a half.

    Then either they can pay more to override something else or they can accept that the time is simply not there.

    Make sure also that you block work time If you just let your calendars stay unscheduled, time will control you.

    So if you know you’ve got a major client project coming up in two weeks, block four hours a day for that work time, so that you get that work done.

    And that way again, if you’re living by your calendar, you’ve set expectations, your client will say, wow, there’s no availability in the mornings for the next week and a half or two weeks or whatever.

    That way you get your work done.

    That is especially true in any kind of a project based business.

    You absolutely need to have work time booked so that people can see, okay, I can’t interrupt during these periods of time, something I run into a lot, making sure that I have you know, four hours at a time, because some of the work that I do with coding requires you to sit down and think and and not be interrupted.

    Finally, make sure that whatever system you choose is compatible with how you work because if you don’t use the system, the system can’t work for you.

    The system will work against you.

    So however it is you work better If you work best and 20 minute pomodoro increments or you work best in to our deep work limits or whatever the case may be, figure out how the system works that is best suited to your style of work and then adjust your calendar appropriately.

    But for sure, set those limits and let the software do the rejection for you.

    If you have follow up questions, leave your comments below.

    calendaring is is can be tricky, especially in agency life.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Analytics Uncovered By Data Science?

    You Ask, I Answer: Analytics Uncovered By Data Science?

    Monina asks, “What kind of analytics can data science uncover?”

    This is an interestingly worded question. Analytics are fundamentally about explaining what happened, the what in your data. Very often, as stakeholders we also want to know what’s relevant (data overload) and then why (insights). That’s where data science can help, especially with understanding what’s relevant. Methods like regression, clustering, classification, and dimension reduction can greatly assist us in finding out what really matters.

    You’ll never create something out of thin air – always derived from your initial data. That’s why domain expertise matters – to know what else is available.

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    In today’s episode menina asks what kind of analytics and data science on the cover? This is an interestingly worded question.

    Analytics fundamentally is about what happened, right? It comes from the Greek word online, which means to loosen up to unlock.

    So you have your data.

    And you want to unlock that data to loosen up that data to turn it into something usable.

    Fundamentally, most analytics, at least as we experience it, within marketing, are about what happened in the data, right? You log into Google Analytics, and it tells you what happened.

    You load up your social media analytics to tell you what happened, and so on and so forth.

    And what’s missing from that? Which is the whole reason any of us have jobs is it really is just What happened? There’s no explanation of why there’s no explanation of what variables matter.

    You just get a pile of data.

    It’s like someone backed the truck up and you know, poured data all over your desk.

    And so what data science can help with is answering those next step questions, right? Your boss comes to your desk and says, You made me a dashboard with 438 variables on it.

    It’s like, Okay, what what am I supposed to pay attention to here, right? You deliver a presentation, you talk to your stakeholders, you interact with your co workers, and they’re all like, we got too much data.

    What do we paying attention to? Or the next step after that is your stakeholder, your boss, whoever is like I say, Okay, so now so now what, right? or Why did this happen? You know, hey, you said that the software says website visits were down 40% yesterday, why why did that happen? What are you going to do about it? So this is where data science can help to take on some of those Extra questions and start using business skills, domain expertise, technical skills, the scientific method mathematical skills, to start to pull apart the big pile of data in that early analysis and turn it into something meaningful.

    Data science can especially help with understanding what’s relevant, right? So you have, and it’s not technically the same in data science, more advanced analytics, where, say you have Google Analytics, Google Analytics has hundreds of dimensions and metrics available to you, if you go to the Google Analytics website.

    You can actually see lists of all these things that you can analyze.

    And it’s kind of like Microsoft Word and a lot of ways right? There’s so many different options because so many different people use it in so many different ways.

    So you have to figure out which of these variables these metrics and dimensions that are available which ones actually matter to your company, and That’s where data science helps.

    Four methods in particular, can help turn that huge pile of data into something more manageable regression, which is figuring out essentially what numbers have the highest association to other numbers.

    So if you have a, a, what’s called a response variable, like conversions, goal, completions, revenue, you can then do a regression, multiple regression, of all the other stuff to figure out which ones have that association and those may be the ones you pay attention to those clustering we can make different variables sort of plotted out and figure out which one’s kind of clumped together with classification for non numeric variables like good customer and bad customer, the domain name so if you’re analyzing your email list, does the domain matter does a webmail address matter and dimension reduction where you’re using math mathematical techniques to to boil down into just a few couple of dimensions the all this data that you have these four techniques and they are data science techniques, their advanced analytics techniques statistical nature can greatly assist us in figuring out what really matters.

    And from there, we can then dig into Why Did something happen? And that’s where you’ll see a lot of that hypothesis testing that makes up actual data science.

    Once you have figured out Okay, these are the variables, these are the five things that matter maybe it’s unique visitors the website or returning users or people who visited this page, whatever the case may be, you can then set up a hypothesis saying if we increase visits to this page by 5%, we will see a revenue increase of 10% right because remember, our hypothesis has to be provably true or false, single variable statement So that you can test it.

    That’s where data science can help us in our analytics process to boil things down, and then set up the testing conditions that we need in order to validate and build that, that theory, that model of how we think our data works.

    Now, one caveat with that is that you can’t create something out of thin air, right? All of the data science work that you do in your analytics is going to be derived from your initial data source.

    You can do a regression, you can do measures of centrality, like means and medians, and modes, and distributions, and all these things.

    But you’re still taking that data from your initial data from where you got your data like Google Analytics.

    And that’s one of the reasons why domain expertise matters so much, because you’re never creating anything.

    Brand new.

    You’re always working from your initial data if your initial data has issues with it.

    You need to know that in order to either stop implemented maybe to fix the data using methods like imputation you will have to do essentially some some management of the data and possibly bring in more or additional or supplementary or, or countervailing data to work towards, that hypotheses are just trying to prove.

    So again, these are things that, as a data scientist, you would need to know, in order to be able to get the most out of your data, you need to know the business, right? If, if you see an anomaly in your data, and you don’t know that the brand manager, it was on vacation, that we can stop running ads for the brand, you’re like, wow, something’s really unusual here.

    You need to know what’s going on in the business.

    You need to know what the goals are the business and then you need to be having enough of a command of the statistical and technical methods to figure out okay, what approach Do we need to take when trying to solve this problem? So, to summarize, analytics can’t be uncovered by data science, more or less, what we can do is find what’s relevant, start to pick apart perhaps why and help reduce the amount of data clutter to those things that we can then build solid testing on to build a model of how we think our marketing is working.

    So really, like I said, it’s interestingly where the question I, I think I know where it was going, and there’s a lot that you can unpack in your data.

    So start digging into some of these methods, particularly those the top fourth regression clustering, classification, dimension reduction, those four are going to give you a lot of mileage out of your initial data, and help you clarify what’s really important.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Is Direct Mail Dead?

    You Ask, I Answer: Is Direct Mail Dead?

    Maria asks, “Researching direct mail and my boss says it’s a waste of time, it’s dead. Is direct mail dead?”

    Yes and no. Direct mail to people who didn’t ask for it is dead. It’s an enormous waste of money and is flat out pollution. I’d rather you send a billion pieces of electronic spam than cut down even one tree. But direct mail to people who ask for it is not dead. This is the fundamental rule for every marketing tactic: nothing is dead to people who really want it.

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    In today’s episode Maria asks, I’m researching direct mail.

    My boss says the waste of time it’s dead is direct mail dead.

    So this is an interesting question yes and no direct mail.

    And by that we mean literal pieces of paper that are sent to people in the postal system is that were used to be one of the most popular tactics from marketers back in the pre internet days.

    But obviously, as people have moved online, electronic communications have become ubiquitous, right? You have these lovely devices that let us communicate and be online.

    24 seven, direct mail.

    And by that we mean that mailing of paper to people who did not ask for it is dead.

    And the reason it’s dead is the cost right? It costs almost nothing to send an email, even for the most elaborate and expensive marketing automation software, it costs almost nothing to send an email.

    It costs sometimes pennies, maybe as much as 25 cents us to send a piece of direct mail to consumers, and that’s a lot of money, right? You send mail to four people.

    That’s 1.

    I cost you1.

    The reason why we’re saying direct mail is sort of dead is because it’s dead to people who didn’t ask for it.

    And if you’re cold email, cold postal mailing people, that is an enormous, enormous waste of money.

    It is 10s of thousands of dollars.

    That is just literally being thrown away.

    And more importantly, today, it’s flat out pollution.

    It’s Pollution it’s double pollution because a you’ve got the mail pieces being thrown away into garbage dumps maybe compost heaps if you’re lucky and be you had to cut down the tree and make the paper that the the direct mail is printed on doubly so it’s even worse at the paper happens to be was looking for chocolate coated in plastic to make it weather resistant or or sealed Bennett takes even longer for it to break down.

    And so there are substantial negative climate impacts to direct mail to people who didn’t ask for I would rather you send a billion pieces of electronic spam.

    Then cut down even one tree to send marketing materials to people who didn’t ask for it right if you’re gonna if you’re going to do spam, please do it electronically public service message.

    Here’s the flipside.

    Direct mail to people who ask for people who want it from you is not dead if you send out a a real paper newsletter.

    If you send out a magazine, if you send out a mailer, to people who have specifically raised their hand said, I want you to send this to me via the postal mail, and maybe even they’re willing to pay for it.

    But it’s not dead.

    Right magazines, people still do receive magazines in the mail people still do.

    Read, read and receive paper newspapers, not many, not as many as it used to.

    People still do want to get things in the mail, there are entire subscription services where you get something in the mail, right? So if people ask for it, then it’s not dead.

    The question is, how do you know that somebody wants it? Well, the way to do that is to use electronic communications first, and then ask people Hey, would you like to receive our marketing in printed form? If so, it will cost this much.

    Now, out of a 10 Thousand person mailing list, you know, five people may opt for that but as long as those five people are the ones that are valuable potential customers then it would make sense to do is like any form of marketing it doesn’t make sense to do it is that the right people? This is the fundamental rule of all outbound marketing, right? Nothing is dead to people who really want it.

    certainly nothing is dead to people who are willing to pay for it.

    And the gold standard that we all strive for in marketing is have a marketing be so good people would actually pay for it and direct mail is an example of of that of is your marketing good enough that somebody would want to at least pay the costs of the direct mail to receive a newsletter from you? That is worth them shelling out 25 cents.

    If you’re at that point, you are a an outstanding marketer.

    I’m not even sure I would pay 25 cents to print doubt my newsletter, and I like my newsletter.

    So that’s the short answer.

    The longer answer to the question is it’s worth a try for outreach, as long as you are extremely segmented in your mail.

    If you have a list of you know, 10,000 people who are the 10, the 10 people on that list who are the most valuable? Send your direct mail to just those tech keep your costs super low.

    But if you if you know for sure, like these 10 people are going to be lifetime customers, you know this from your data, you know, this from your analytics.

    These 10 people are the people that we have to get out of this list.

    That’s a great case for very limited outbound direct postal mail to people, especially if you can make the mail are super compelling, which is not a postcard.

    Right? It has to be something that when people get it in the mail they’re like wow, this is actually really kind of cool like this is I’m kind of glad I actually opened this thing.

    So these are not going to be a postcard or a letter or something like that it’s going to be something unique.

    It’s going to be something that they were not expecting.

    That is valuable to them.

    That is important to them.

    I’m trying to think of some mailers that I’ve seen in the past done and usually piles of stuff laying around.

    There are certain types of like really elaborate folding origami mail is the kind of spring open and talk a little house or something I’ve seen realtors use that which is very clever like a cardboard mailer which is kind of cute.

    Back in the day, we actually did got burner phones, inexpensive phones that were had a the contact number of the the Chief Technology Officer hardcoded into the phone.

    We’ve actually mailed that to report And we only did 10 of them, right? This was very expensive to do.

    People have mailed out things like AirPods, right? war or iPods back in the day with messages pre pre burned into them.

    And so those are highly segmented highly targeted, incredibly expensive pieces, but if the return justifies it, and you do it, right, that’s that is the way to handle direct mail.

    So is it dead? Anything to someone who doesn’t want it to dead? Anything to somebody who does want it, not debt, just do it well, and be aware of the cost the impact of it? Great question.

    Please have your follow up questions in the comments box below.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Not Ready for Marketing?

    You Ask, I Answer: Not Ready for Marketing?

    Stephen asks, “Have you ever told a prospective client that they’re not ready for marketing? What were your reasons for turning them away?”

    Yes, though it was usually for a specific type of marketing, not marketing as a whole. In terms of marketing as a whole, that’s usually a major failure of something like the 4Ps of marketing. Watch the video for full details.

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    In today’s episode, Steven asks, have you ever told a prospective client, they’re not ready for marketing? What were your reasons for turning them away? Yes, although typically it was because they weren’t ready for a specific type of marketing, not marketing as a whole.

    Telling someone, for example, they’re not ready for email marketing if they’ve not been collecting any email addresses or they’re not ready for social media marketing, because they haven’t quite figured out how to be a useful member of the community.

    Those are the the typical reasons for not using a certain marketing channel or a certain marketing method or set of tactics.

    It always came down to preparation Foundation, a plan of some kind, and those are the typical failures now for marketing as a whole.

    That’s more Companies not ready for marketing when they haven’t done the four P’s.

    So if you don’t remember from your marketing textbook in college, the four P’s are product price promotion placement, right? It is, do you have a product? Is it priced appropriately for the market? Are you promoting it? And then Where? Where are you promoting it? And typically, somebody would not be ready for marketing.

    When those four fundamentals are not in place, but specifically the product is not ready.

    Product Market Fit is probably the most important overlooked thing that marketers and companies in general don’t do especially in startups.

    If you look at all the the new business pitches at various startup incubator demo days, a lot of the times to be charitable, they’re there.

    solutions in search of a problem.

    The Uber for French fries, for example, not really sure we need that.

    There’s, there’s, there may be a mild interest in that.

    But for the most part, the product doesn’t have a home in the heart of the consumer and be very difficult to be very difficult to get really great marketing for a product like that.

    Because people may say, Oh, that’s cool.

    And then not buy it.

    Right? We ran into this in the early days, with my company Trust Insights.

    We would focus a lot on AI and machine learning and people like Wow, that’s really cool.

    But then didn’t want to buy any of the services we had attached to that.

    So after about the after the first year, we really pivoted looking at what our customers were asking us about looking at the problems in the marketplace to really focus much more marketing analytics.

    I personally focus on marketing data science and AI.

    But the markets not ready, right? The product market fit was off.

    Even though people think it’s cool, even though people think it’s interesting, at the end of the day, AI and marketing is kind of like spreadsheets and marketing, right? It’s a technology, it’s not a solution that’s complete unto itself, say adding AI to marketing doesn’t make your marketing any better.

    So if you have a prospective client that fails one or more of the four P’s in your marketing mix, that’s a good indication that they’re not ready to begin the process of marketing.

    They need to price their product appropriately.

    their product has to be worth buying.

    They need a plan for promotion.

    They need to understand the place of the marketing.

    And there are plenty of companies even companies that are ready Literally mature, where that product market fit.

    And the four P’s start to drift.

    Really good example of this is the former and almost completely gone a Blockbuster Video.

    They thought that they were in the video business, they were actually in the plastic cassette distribution business.

    And when a company came that recognize the marketplace had changed its its idea of where place was based.

    Namely, people want a video at their homes and they having DVDs they could be mailed to them was a critical and oversight, right their product market fit for a couple of decades was great.

    And their marketing mix for a couple decades was great.

    And then it wasn’t they the market change they didn’t so even a company that is in production that is maybe even a mature company can drift apart from the marketplace.

    itself.

    And so the four P’s are something that you can’t do once launch your company and then hope that you attract the customers you attract.

    Even if you’re successful, you have to constantly be keeping an eye on the marketplace and say, Are we still in alignment with the market? Or has the market changed on us? I was talking to a customer not too long ago when dealing with the hotel stuff like yeah, our hotel business live is not growing.

    Like Well, yeah.

    Have you heard of this thing called Airbnb? It’s eating your market share.

    Of course, there’s a clear case of out of sync issues with the market.

    So in those cases, a company should stop marketing or scale back drastically, and figure out how to realign with the markets and then go back into doing marketing but yeah, they should not be doing marketing if they don’t understand What’s happening with the market itself? marketing we use as a verb in a lot of cases.

    But it is also we forget that now the market is who we are marketing to.

    So how do you handle telling your client this start with a framework like the four P’s or pestle or Porter’s five forces or four P’s and illustrate clearly to the client perspective or not, where the market is, where they are, and which one of these pieces within the framework that you choose is seriously broken in it and will be a waste of their marketing dollars.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Marketing Professional Development?

    You Ask, I Answer: Marketing Professional Development?

    Monina asks, “What do you currently do for professional development? What do you look for?”

    I practice what’s called inquiry-based learning, or problem-based learning. This particularly methodology comes from the medical world; in the 1960s, students at McMaster University pioneered it in response to rote memorization (though the technique is timeless). Inquiry-based learning brings together many different skills, but can be inefficient and incomplete, and requires a base level of skills, which I usually obtain from online courses and reading. It is ideally suited for agency life and client work. Watch the video for a full explanation.

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    In today’s episode, Molina asks, What do you currently do for professional development? What do you look for? So that’s a really interesting question.

    Because in a lot of ways, I think the type of professional development I do is mostly tailored to how I learn.

    And that’s one of the things that’s really important for any organization to do and for any individual practitioner to know is how do you learn best? There are all these different methods and techniques for learning, whether it is just passive content consumption, courses, training, conferences, you name it, there’s a million and a half different ways to learn some topic.

    The question is, how do you learn best? And if you’re managing people, how do they learn best because there’s a lot of cases where a technique that works for one person will not work for another person.

    My personal methodology is in academia, it’s called inquiry based learning or problem based learning.

    This is essentially when you start with a problem that you’re trying to solve, and then you explore all the ways to solve that problem.

    This methodology comes from really the 1960s.

    At least the discipline has known today it’s it’s much older than that.

    You could argue that Socrates and such back in antiquity, were doing this sort of thing because it’s, it’s functional learning.

    The the specific discipline is comes from McMaster University in the 1960s and medical school, where students in response to their complaints that you know, at the time medical school is vast amounts of memorization without any practice.

    They said this doesn’t help us solve problems that we’re likely to face in.

    In the medical world.

    inquiry based learning brings together many, many different skills.

    So if you’re given a problem, how do you solve that problem, one of the ways you can solve it.

    Now, it requires a few things to be effective.

    Number one, it requires a lot of time.

    Because you have to have the time to explore all the solutions.

    It requires access to the information in some fashion or format, whether that’s through a mentor or through a search engine or whatever.

    And it requires a base level of skills.

    So if you don’t have any skills whatsoever, for example, in data science, it would be a very, very difficult way to start learning data science to open up the studio ID and got that blank cursor and an empty Filing a great, what do I do now.

    So you probably want some other methods to supplement it like a basic class or a course, I usually get my base skills from online courses or reading tons and tons of specialist material looking at ways people have already tried to solve the problem and picking up techniques that they use and adding them to my repertoire.

    In on Saturday nights, I do this thing, sometimes a post about on Facebook, on my personal profile and on LinkedIn, but sometimes they don’t call it the Saturday night data party, where I take a problem that I want to explore or a data set that I want to explore.

    And I dig into it and it’s sometimes it’s work related.

    Sometimes it’s not sometimes a piece of data crosses my desk is like, Wow, that’s really interesting.

    What can we do with that? How could we use that? Or problem like, how do I make help a reporter more accurate AirTable it’s 150 queries in this thing, how do I turn that into something that I can take action on faster and then I try and solve that problem.

    Now, there’s some downsides to this approach.

    Like I said, One, it does require a lot of time it requires some basic skills and it can be inefficient.

    You may learn how to solve a problem.

    And you may come up with a solution, but it may not be the best solution.

    You You may not discover best practices this way, unless you are actively looking for them.

    And you may reinvent the wheel a lot.

    And that’s okay.

    In training and development, reinventing the wheel sometimes the only way to learn how will wheel works.

    If you’re on a time crunch, it’s probably not the fastest way to learn.

    But it is a way to learn thoroughly so that you can be a practitioner and be able to stand behind your work.

    You know how a piece of code works, or tool works because you’ve used it to solve that problem.

    Where inquiry based learning really shines, I think is in agency life in client work in places where you need to be able to show practical experience cases that when a client says I’ll now what kind of experience do you have in this in this field or in this industry, you can show very clear specific examples of how you solved in that industry.

    And if you haven’t, if you can get a hold of a data set from the industry, you can show how you solved for it, even if you’ve never done paying client work event industry, which is super, super important if you are trying to start your own business.

    If you’re trying to start a new team or a new line of business inside of a company, having that portfolio of case work that you’ve done really helps illustrate Your skills and instill confidence in somebody that you’ve done this before you know what you’re doing.

    So inquiry based learning that really great for agency life.

    The catch is you have to have time to do it.

    So one of the most important things in general and professional development is making time for it.

    But doubly so if you are an inquiry based learner, you must block off time and your schedule every week, ideally every day, so that you can continue to grow your skills because one of the challenges of inquiry based learning because it is nonlinear, and it can lead you down all sorts of interesting rat holes is it’s very difficult to develop a comprehensive map of what you know until you’ve really explored a good chunk of a discipline.

    So if you are doing infrequently, you end up reinventing the wheel a lot on ground you’ve already walked on.

    As opposed to if you have frequent windows or Training is not long if even if it’s 15 minutes a day.

    You can remember what you did yesterday.

    Oh yeah, open up your your code or your tool or software, whatever.

    Like, I remember this, I remember doing this yesterday and you you continue down those pathways until you run out.

    The other thing that you should consider if it’s possible if it’s there is finding some kind of mentor at least somebody or a community of people who are in that particular technique or technology or or system that you can ask questions to as I participate in Stack Overflow, the coding website, a lot, I a lot of questions like, hey, how do you do this? Has anyone ever done this? And there are literally decades of answers on there for some of these programming languages.

    where people’s like, Oh, yeah, you see in 2008, someone asked me, How do you do this? Oh, yeah, I have that problem.

    And it helps you solve individual techniques faster.

    Not reinvent the wheel for something that is long standing and well proven, especially since a lot of the folks contribute answers on there.

    will say, Well, here’s four different ways to do this.

    So example I use the our programming language.

    So here’s the tidy verse way of a data table way and the deep lie away and the bass ROI.

    And you’re like, Okay, got it.

    Here’s how all these different things work.

    And having access to that knowledge in that community is is super helpful.

    So that’s the technique I use, it is not for everyone.

    If you are your brain works in this particular way, kind of scattered.

    I joke Attention Deficit really shouldn’t in a lot of ways because that is a clinical diagnosis that I’m not qualified to make for anyone including myself.

    But if you if you don’t learn in a linear way, if you don’t learn to not pick up the book, you know, start digging into the book.

    Okay, let’s read the book, read the book, read the book, if that’s not your style learning, inquiry based learning may be the way to go.

    But you have to be incredibly self motivated to do it, to pursue it, and have a place to turn when you run into questions you can’t answer and you can’t find a good answer for and you may not have the language to ask for.

    So, community is learning very useful for that.

    Speaking of which, if you haven’t already joined my slack group analytics for marketers, go to Trust insights.ai slash analytics for markers and join our slack group.

    You can ask questions and if you’re doing inquiry based learning a great place to ask where to go next.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Setting Social Media Goals for 2020?

    You Ask, I Answer: Setting Social Media Goals for 2020?

    Annica asks, “What sort of goals should we be setting for social media in 2020?”

    Depending on how you use social media – for marketing, sales, customer service, etc. – will govern what kind of goals you set. For marketing, the simplest goals are to forecast, by channel, what the likely traffic is going to be from each channel, and then set goals based on that. If you had, say, a thousand visits from Facebook this year and it resulted in $X in attributable conversions, then 5% more Facebook traffic should yield X% * 1.05 down the road, and your goal would be 1050 visits from Facebook.

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    In today’s episode Mautic asks, what sort of goals should we be setting for social media in 2020? Oh, that’s a very good question.

    Here’s how I would approach this.

    If you have existing data forecasts that forward using any time series forecasting tool.

    If you were at the Agoura pulse summit, you saw some of those which by the way, you can still register and see that I think for another like three weeks, but anytime you use forecasting software, Watson Studio of our Python all those things, what you want to do is this, you will first understand how you currently use social media and if that’s how you’re going to be using it in 2020.

    If If you are using it for marketing or sales or customer service and you are planning on more or less continuing what you’re doing now.

    Paid unpaid, and so on so forth, that’s going to determine the goals you set.

    If there’s going to be massive changes, like, we’re going to stop doing customer service on social media entirely, and that represents you like 30% of your activity.

    Now, it’s gonna be a lot harder to do any kind of forecasting and goal setting.

    But let’s say for the most part, you’re going to be doing more or less what you been doing within reason, for marketing purposes.

    The simplest goals for any top of funnel channel, the forecast is traffic.

    How much traffic does this send to the to the properties that we own.

    And then obviously, that traffic then goes down through the marketing operations mechanisms that you have in place to turn into some sort of business impact, whether it’s increased customer satisfaction, whether it’s sales enablement and accelerating the pipeline, or it’s just straight up marketing lead or prospect generation could be any of those things.

    But traffic is the easiest thing for you to measure.

    Social media because it requires the least amount of setup.

    And as long as the traffic you send to your website has a correlation a strong mathematical relationship to that business goal.

    Then traffic’s straightforward to measure right? You don’t necessarily have to worry about Bob and sales shut up drunk again and he disqualified all the perfect good leads we sent him.

    You don’t have to worry about that.

    So what you should do is take your existing traffic and forecasted for by channel.

    So let me bring this up here.

    And this, what you’re looking at here is a example of a traffic forecast.

    So this is for my company’s website, the Trust Insights website.

    And what we’re looking at here is each channel forecasted for so I have all of calendar 2019 on here, and that’s about half of the chart the left half and the right half is the forecast going forward.

    And based on time series forecasting, I can look at this and say okay, what what is likely to happen in the year ahead? Now, is this perfect now? Is it does it predict the unpredictable No.

    But based on the last couple years worth of data, forecasting, the sport gives me a pretty good idea of what is likely to happen for social media, social media sites for teal, light blue, I don’t even know what color it is.

    That’s at the bottom there.

    And I can see that it’s now November 2019.

    And beginning in 2020, we’re going to see about the same or slightly less traffic from social media.

    Just the nature of the beast, we don’t pay.

    We don’t do paid social media very much.

    And so it’s not really reflected on here and you can see the our organic social media impact continues to decline.

    So let’s say you had 1000 visits from Facebook this year, right and it resulted in I don’t know it, X number of conversions and 5% more Facebook traffic should logically yield 5% more conversions down the road.

    So for social media purposes for goal setting your goal instead of 1000 visits if you want 5% more conversions later on, will be 5% more traffic from Facebook now, or 1050 visits in 2020.

    Now you can do these, these forecasts either by channel which I’ve sort of lumped social media here all together in one, or you can break it up by individual source and medium that gets, that gets messy.

    And a lot of forecasting software has trouble at a certain point and dealing with, you know, a channel that sends you one visit.

    So you may want to do some filtering if you want to do it by individual, tactical old channel like Facebook or Instagram or YouTube or whatever.

    But in aggregate, you can put together some pretty good forecasts that will give you overall baselines and then maybe look at percentages and say, well, Facebook’s about 40% of our social media traffic so of that thousand visitors in aggregate working at Facebook should be responsible for about 400 of them.

    That’s a probably a simpler way to figure out what the goals for each channel and each individual tactical channel are.

    Ultimately, you want those goals to be guides, right? So we need 1000 visits and then divide that by 12.

    And you will get my math Isn’t that good? At 3.3 repeating visits a month from social media, that gives you a diagnostic that’s a lot more useful than an annual goal.

    So make sure you think about those milestones as well.

    If it’s January 29, and you’ve gotten 50 visits from Facebook, you’re like, you know what, we’re not going to hit our January goal.

    And as a result, we may miss our upcoming yearly goal.

    That’s one of the reasons why these forecasts are broken out by either month or quarter so that you can look back and go gosh, you know, for January 2020, we are forecasting on this one 369 visits from social if we don’t get anywhere close to that by January 15.

    And we’re like at five, okay, we’re going to miss that goals are either we need to change what we’re doing, or we need to update our forecasts to say, yeah, it’s going to be a great year for for Facebook, you know, based on our forecasting forward.

    So that’s, that’s how you use these things.

    That’s how you set goals, set a big goal Absolutely.

    break out into milestones and then measure against those milestones to give you diagnostics, that will you make decisions and make changes before it’s too late, because you don’t want to get to this time next year, you know, late in the year and go, Well, we set a goal of 1000 visits and we’re 400 you’re like, wow, I gotta get that bonus this year.

    So that’s the process.

    Take your existing channel data out of Google Analytics forecasted forward using the statistical Your choice and then build the forecast and measure against it.

    Shameless plug.

    If you want help do this because you don’t have statistical software, or it’s just not your bag.

    Let us know at Trust Insights We are more than happy to help you build that out.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Marketing Automation Solutions for SMBs?

    You Ask, I Answer: Marketing Automation Solutions for SMBs?

    Dan asks, “What are your suggestions for an inexpensive marketing automation platform that integrates with SalesForce and either scales well or can easily be migrated to a more powerful platform down the road.”

    This depends on what you mean by inexpensive. How large a marketing budget are we talking? At Trust Insights, we use self-hosted Mautic because in the early days of the company, we literally funded everything out of our own pockets. We chose Mautic because we had the technical knowledge to operate a server. Choose based on your budget and skill level – watch the video for some guidelines.

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    In today’s episode, Dan asks, What are your suggestions for an inexpensive marketing automation platform that integrates with Salesforce? And either scales well or can easily be migrated to a more powerful platform down the road? This is a good question.

    There are no surprise hundreds if not thousands, of marketing automation platforms, if you refer to Scott breakers, infamous martech loom escape or the martech landscape.

    There’s 8000 solutions on there, and at least a couple of marketing automation.

    So there’s no shortage of choices out there.

    The question is, what do you have for resources and resources with marketing automation comes in two forms one, technical knowledge to money.

    Most people are pretty familiar with money right? So My guideline on that is it should be, you should spend on marketing automation, approximately 25% of your data and analytics budget, remembering that from the most recent cmo survey, most marketing departments have spending somewhere between seven and 11% of their overall marketing budget on data and analytics.

    They should be spending a lot more but can’t fix that.

    Right.

    So let’s be generous and call it say data and analytics should be 15% of your marketing budget.

    Right? That’s that is optimistic.

    Of that 25% of that number should be your marketing automation budget.

    So that you have money left over to help you with other things you don’t have specifically knowledge.

    When Katie am I started Trust Insights two years ago now almost Wow, that went fast.

    We Show is a platform called Monique Monique is an open source marketing automation platform.

    They have a cloud hosted version that looks and works very similarly to, you know what, what all the other major cloud marketing automation providers have.

    But the pricing on that is comparable.

    We chose the self hosted version because the early days of the company, we were literally funding everything out of our own pockets.

    But we were literally paying for stuff out of our personal funds to get the company going, that’s startup life.

    So we chose Baltic because it was the least expensive solution for which we still have the technical knowledge.

    In order to deploy a self hosted model means you have to start a server somewhere virtual server someplace on a VPN or whatever.

    You have to install the software, yourself.

    You have to configure the server yourself and you have to firewall and do all the things that you’re supposed to do in order to make sure that the server is working correctly.

    That is a pretty heavy lift for a lot of companies.

    But the trade off is that our total costs for marketing automation are somewhere around $8 a month, right? In the beginning days of the company that is manageable, that is affordable when you have no cost at all.

    That is that is great news.

    Now, that system does integrate with Salesforce, no better or worse, I would say than any other platforms.

    But it is super easy to migrate because you have the server, right.

    So as long as you have some idea of what you’re doing when it comes with to databases, you can literally work directly in the database.

    You don’t need to go through the software, the interface and all that stuff.

    You are as close to bare metal as possible.

    And that is a wonderful thing when you’re talking about migration.

    Because when you look at every other platform out there like HubSpot Hard on Mark Hedo, Eloqua, you name it, they don’t let you get direct access to the server ever get a it’s a security risk and be there is some incentive to make it more difficult to migrate to move on.

    When you run your own systems and servers, you have the total control over the environment for good or ill now that the ill side means you have to maintain that environment yourself and you’d better have some technical knowledge or your server will end up getting hacked sooner rather than later.

    And that’s not a good thing.

    So, my recommendation if you are literally like rummaging through the couch cushions, looking for spare change to run your business, your marketing department, things like that.

    My recommendation would be Monique, it is the best overall choice for super affordable startup environments to to run marketing automation.

    Now, depending on scales and issue with Monique in the sense that when you provision a virtual server, you get certain limits like disk space and things like that.

    And you would better be working with a hosting company that allows you to scale up your instance, I’ve had to do this on my own personal Monique server.

    I have my my email list is now like close to a little more than actually has more than 40,000 subscribers.

    Guess what, that generates a tremendous amount of data, which means that it takes more disk space to store more record, the database has to be optimized more often.

    And the bills will start to increase as scale goes up.

    That’s okay.

    You would, but you need to be working with a hosting company that allows you to scale up your server otherwise, you’re going to be in a really bad situation.

    In terms of if you don’t have the technical skill.

    And you do have the money.

    My second choice, really, I mean, it would have to be HubSpot.

    HubSpot Software is expensive for a small business 800 bucks a month for the pro version.

    But it is seamless.

    It is well engineered, it works.

    It offers all the usual compliance stuff everything you want it you need and want for compliance.

    So if you’ve got the cash, go with HubSpot.

    There are other providers you know Flavio and Active Campaign drip and all these other providers.

    I have not used them.

    I can’t speak to them, whether they’re they’re good or bad.

    Most of the review sites put those companies in reasonably good standing with each other.

    It’s actually funny.

    Monique is in pretty poor standing because again, it’s extremely technical, to make it work well.

    We were making the trade off we have the knowledge we don’t have, we didn’t have the cash at the time.

    If you don’t have the knowledge or the cash, you’d better figure out which one to go after.

    First, I would strongly suggest you get the knowledge because the knowledge lets you build the infrastructure.

    You Need to Ben generate the cash.

    If you are a an entrepreneur and you don’t have the knowledge, either learn it before you launch your company or partner with somebody who does have the knowledge who can fill that gap because it’s extremely important that you have that.

    So I would say those would be my two recommendations for today.

    That may change.

    And if you’re a marketing automation vendor, and you want me to review your software, we’re happy to chat about that will at least test it out and see, see what’s under the hood? As long as you’re okay with feedback that you might not like? So, for the comments in the comments box below.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Machines Marketing to Machines?

    You Ask, I Answer: Machines Marketing to Machines?

    Annika asks, “Will humans drop out of the loop with marketing? Will it be machines marketing to machines?”

    This is already happening to some degree. We’ve been marketing to machines for decades. Our machines can now market to other machines in the sense that one algorithm competes with another.

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    In today’s episode Chanukah asks, Will humans drop out of the loop with marketing will be machines marketing to machines in the future? You know, this is happening to some degree already.

    In fact, we have been marketing to machines for decades.

    When you look at the professions, for example of search engine optimization, you are optimizing not for a human, you are optimizing for search engine to crawl your page now, thanks to things like deep learning and stuff, what appeals to a human and what appeals to a machine that have converged much more closely.

    But in the early days of SEO, it was all keyword matching, we used to have terrible jokes like an SEO expert walks into a bar tavern, pub, stuff like that.

    So we’ve been marketing the machines for a while.

    And no surprise, anybody who’s been doing any kind of work in machine learning in marketing for the last five years, has been using machines to do some of that marketing to machines.

    For example, in SEO, using topic modeling to reverse engineer, the top search results that Google spits out, so that you can understand what content needs to be on your pages to potentially rank just as well.

    That’s machines marketing to machines.

    When you look at social media, social media marketing, is humans marketing humans, but it is also humans marketing to machines.

    It’s also humans, trying to understand how the algorithms work.

    And, again, no surprise using sophisticated data analysis tools.

    A number of vendors have figured out that stuff like time series forecasting, and other predictive analytics are an important part of understanding how to market to these algorithms to increase the chances of your posts being seen in the Facebook newsfeed for example, or Twitter or Instagram.

    So again, machines marketing to machines.

    where this is going, No surprise is with lots of content generation, SEO will see this first social media will see this, probably secondarily.

    But as we were talking on a recent episode about new advances in pre trained models, like GPT 2778, and Mel net, humans are really good at creating content.

    In general, obviously, if you have the engine, create all your content, you’re gonna get a lot of content.

    But for the sake of argument, mid career professionals going to create presumably pretty good content.

    But we scale poorly.

    We can only write so fast, even a mediocre quality, we can still only write so fast.

    Machines are today spitting out mediocre quality content at blistering basis.

    And as these models, these pre trained models get better and better and better.

    We will see that quality of content generated by machines inching up.

    So going from mediocre to not bad, to a pretty good to Wow, that’s really good.

    I like that.

    As we make that evolution, no surprise, at least for SEO purposes, we will be hundred percent machines, marketing and machines, wherever human will be in the loop insofar as they are quality checking, they are providing some training for an active learning system saying like, Yes, that was good.

    No, that was good.

    Spot checking stuff.

    But the heavy lifting will be done by machines.

    We are already seeing this to some degree.

    For example, in press releases, press releases of the most template two forms of content there are right, what’s the what’s the standard format of our press release.

    It is a, you know, an introduction of the industry leading company, a quote, a key announcement, where you’re proudly introducing, you’re pleased to announce your product, right? And then you follow that up with a random quote by the CEO, the CEO, you never said you just have copy and paste something in there.

    You have information about your products innovative turnkey solution, you have a quote or testimonial, which again, is probably made up and then you have some contact information, right? That’s the template of a press release.

    Machines already, right those machines, right minor league baseball reports, machines, right financial press releases and financial statements.

    Because it’s so tempted that you don’t even need a eye for that.

    Some more creative stuff like blog posts, video scripts, and things like that those, those will become machine generated for the most part, and then humans will be responsible for the quality checking.

    Well, humans ever exit the loop.

    Probably for low risk stuff again, humans have already exited the loop for things like financial press releases, right? That’s low hanging fruit, there’s no risk.

    And if your content all sounds the same, it’s fine.

    Because humans really aren’t supposed to be reading it.

    I guess they should be.

    But nobody does.

    Those are released to satisfy regulation FD, by the SEC, which says that you must publish certain things.

    It has public announcements to meet regulatory compliance requirements.

    As long as you publish the thing doesn’t matter if another human never laid eyes on it.

    You have done your due diligence to meet that regulatory requirement.

    So machine can 100% publish that and as long as the data is factually accurate, it doesn’t even really matter if it’s word salad.

    Humans will not exit the loop on creative endeavors for quite some time because again, we want to make sure that our models are generating appropriate content, we have seen from past experience, Microsoft take comes to mind that the machines can the algorithms and the models can be spiked pretty easily poison poisoned.

    So we will be continually quality checking those making sure they stay on the rails.

    And we can track things like model drift with tools like IBM open scale, for example.

    For the most part, we will stay within the loop on our creative endeavors with machines.

    on other things like for example, advanced topic modeling or social media algorithm analysis, you will have the human in the loop far less because again, those are pretty standard statistical operations.

    Those are not things that require deep inspection humans will look at the outputs.

    But beyond checking for model drift, humans will be needed to really dig in there.

    So machines marketing machines is the present day already and it will become much more of the future as the future rolls around.

    So good question.

    Interesting question.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Successes and Failures of AI in Marketing?

    You Ask, I Answer: Successes and Failures of AI in Marketing?

    Annika asks, “Can you give me some examples of digital Marketing projects that use AI in some way that failed and succeeded and reasons behind The success or failure?”

    Some of the most prominent failures are those in which people didn’t keep their eyes on the system after deployment. In marketing, that’s systems like sentiment analysis, which has a small raft of problems. Microsoft had its very visible Tay failure. Successes are legion and very tactical, along what we call the 5Us. Watch the video for full details.

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    In today’s episode, Monica asks, Can you give some examples of digital marketing projects that use AI in some way that failed and succeeded, and the reasons behind the successes and failures.

    Some of the the more prominent failures in the space of those in which people didn’t keep their eyes on the systems after deployment, one of the major faults, or reasons for failure and many AI projects is that after you deploy your model, you don’t keep tuning it, you don’t keep adjusting it in the model drifts, which means that it begins to behave unpredictably.

    It receives data that it doesn’t know what to do with or forecasts poorly.

    So that is sort of the root reason why many AI projects kind of go off the else.

    The most prominent example This was having Microsoft’s a Twitter chat bot.

    I think it was from 2017, which in which Microsoft deployed this chat bot on Twitter, and it was unsupervised.

    They wanted to see how it would interact with users.

    And within 24 hours, users had turned it into a racist porn bot.

    And that is a function of model drift, where they didn’t anticipate the the lesser aspects of human nature.

    And the model drifted and eventually became unusable.

    What they should have done that in that particular instance, is had a constant cycle of tuning a constant cycle of reinforcement learning with active learning, which means that a human should have been in the loop at all times.

    Continuing to tune the model and saying yeah, that you just got their reject that when Microsoft and IBM had it, some project debater AI, this past February, one of the 10 ai is under the hood was an ethics module that had, in addition to being trained on a bunch of what not to say, actually had some rules hard coded into it that it was never allowed to do to do was never, for example, allowed at any point to reference Hitler.

    So that is a really good example of one of the core things, one of the many, many things that can go wrong with any kind of AI is model drift.

    And if you want to read more about the ways AI projects failed, is actually a blog series I’m doing over we’re at the trust insights blog, you can see it there on ways AI projects fail.

    Another way that is very marketing specific, is that a lot of companies have done a relatively poor job with sentiment analysis, they tend to rely on very, very old approaches for sentiment analysis bag of words, approaches, you know, this word is generally bad.

    This word is generally good and of course, fails to take into account any kind of context.

    And the reason for that is not AI based in a lot of cases, that is just computational cost based.

    The the cost to do more advanced types of machine learning on language, in many cases outstrip what that company is able to spend and still be profitable from a compute perspective, or they don’t have the code and talent to implement modern sentiment analysis.

    In terms of successes in AI, in marketing, there are they are legion because many of them are very tactical, and address very solvable, manageable problems for marketing.

    Again, this isn’t that we call the five use untapped data, being able to use machine learning to classify and categorize unstructured data like call center calls, emails, etc, and be able to extract information classified very, very quickly.

    dimension reduction, which is a huge problem for most marketing data sets.

    They have many, many dimensions, many columns in the spreadsheet, if you will.

    And using techniques to do feature selection and dimension reduction, understand what’s really important.

    There are many, many examples of being be able to do driver analysis, multiple regression in which you are trying to figure out what is at the heart of a problem.

    So if you have all this data, say, posts on social media, and you have all the reactions likes, wow, and whatever in posts, views, and shares and comments, which one of those metrics or which combination of those metrics is really impactful? would be a an example of that.

    You have techniques like network graphic, which is the type of machine learning, being able to identify the relationships between entities very useful for sentiment and outlet for social media monitoring, for influencer analysis, very, very powerful stuff.

    And of course, you have predictive analytics time series forecasting, being able to forecast forward, when is a specific search term going to trend, and that that helps you then set your editorial calendar.

    So there are many, many tactical successes for using AI and machine learning in marketing? They are they are legion, I can refer you to a number of talks that we’ve done over again on the trust insights website, detailing this in much greater depth.

    But in terms of successes and failures, what sets apart successes and failures in AI and marketing more than anything else, this is something that my CEO constantly says is all about the planning.

    Do you have a clear business goal? Do you have a well defined approach? Have you done your technical requirements? Well, at the end of the day, when you’re doing AI, and you’re doing machine learning, the output is software.

    So if you are not treating it like a software development project, you’re setting yourself up to fail.

    On the other hand, if you follow decades long best practices for software development, knowing that you know a portion of the prod of the development will be done by a machine you will be much more likely to succeed.

    So those are some of the basic basics.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Where Do You Go To Get Smarter?

    You Ask, I Answer: Where Do You Go To Get Smarter?

    Jeremy asks, “Who are your communities? Where do you go to get smarter?”

    In the context of business and marketing, getting smarter in a useful way requires focused learning. Once you’ve become competent in the basics, you need focused lines of inquiry in order to grow. It’s very difficult to just “get smarter” in general – you need a goal. The number one place I and every marketer should be going to get smarter is: the customer. Watch the video for full details.

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    In today’s episode, Jeremy asks, Where do you go to get smarter? Who are your communities? In the context of business and marketing, getting smarter in a useful way, requires focused learning.

    So in the beginning, you go to conferences, you take courses, you get a degree in something, and you get the basics down, right? You, you may not be a master of the basics, but at least become competent in them.

    From there, you have to have focused lines of inquiry, right? If you are a creative person, maybe there are places that you go for creative inspiration.

    But ultimately, what compels you to learn more or do more is a need of some kind of something that gives you a focus and a reason to be doing that dynamic.

    One of the reasons why so many marketers don’t make progress, so many people don’t make progress is because they stop learning.

    And they stop learning because there’s no reason for them to continue learning to continue growing, or at least they don’t perceive there’s one, there’s always a reason for it.

    It is very difficult.

    to just get smarter.

    In general, you need to have a goal, you need to have something to be aiming at.

    And now this is my opinion.

    The number one place that all of us, you, me, every marketer, every data scientist, all these folks should be going to get smarter is the customer.

    Because only customers give us problems to solve.

    Certainly, as someone who works in marketing and data science, the more interesting the problem from a customer, the more challenge the problem, the more I have to grow, the more I have to get smarter, because my customer forces me to get smarter.

    And it’s really easy, really easy to get complacent to say, Oh, I you know, I know how to do SEO or I know how to do this.

    Yep.

    But if you’re not getting the best possible results all the time, then there is room for you to get smarter.

    And that’s when you Yes, you go to resources, like private groups on Facebook, or like the slack group that I run analytics for marketers, shameless plug, go to trust insights.ai slash analytics for markers and join our slack group.

    People ask questions in the slack group all the time.

    And if I’m not working on a customer problem right then and there.

    And I have a few few moments or something that would be fun to explore.

    After hours on a Saturday night, that group is a great place to get problems with people who may not be customers right now, but could be customers.

    So once you have a problem, then you can start building and growing and acquiring the knowledge you need to solve that problem.

    Somebody was doing some customer work the other day and said, and they brought out this, this theoretical model of how they think a certain part of their business works.

    That’s a really, really cool, interesting problem to try and solve like, Okay, how do you validate the that model is actually true.

    And that sent me down this line of inquiry about things like hidden Markov models and all these data science terms, to see if, in fact, their model could be validated through practical real world means.

    And so that’s how you do this, you know, sort of generic getting smarter, it is going after a goal trying to achieve something trying to solve a problem.

    And your your best problems, the ones that will be most useful to your career, we are certainly into your company, will be those problems that customers bring up.

    Now in terms of places to go, I mentioned groups, obviously, you have search engines, which are quite possibly the greatest contribution to human knowledge in general, because people search for things.

    And as long as search engines are functional and useful, they deliver places to go to acquire new knowledge.

    There are a number of YouTube channels that I follow, and of people who are doing good work.

    And sort of being really far out on the cutting edge learning from them, I spend my Sunday mornings and you know, that couple of cups of coffee, and a YouTube channel, where to watching what people are doing, watching how people are getting their work done, watching the code that they build, and using that to solve problems I have.

    And now if you’re not a coder or a technical person, these are still valuable resources, you can still get a lot from, for example, conference sessions that have recorded, there are tremendous numbers of conferences, and speakers who publish their talks online, that you can watch and learn from.

    There are dozens of different course sites, if there’s a particular line of inquiry that you need to go down.

    You can take courses in that line of inquiry, if it’s something you need a full, formal structured set of information about, take a course edX, Coursera, Udacity, you Demi, LinkedIn learning lynda.com, all these different publications have give you the ability to build those lines of inquiry in a more formal way, especially if you want to have a little sheet of paper to hang up near your cubicle after you’re done.

    So those are all kinds of different places you can go.

    But it all begins with that problem that you’re trying to solve.

    And if you don’t have that you don’t have a source of interesting problems and challenges, then you’re not going to grow.

    So focus on your customer.

    If you’re if you don’t have a customer or you don’t have a very challenging customer, then find a group to participate in that has people asking for help.

    I’m in a whole bunch of these your Facebook groups and things like that.

    And there are people asking for help every single day.

    And most of the problems are pretty easy to solve.

    You know there are challenges but every now and again one will come and go wow Hmm.

    I have never thought about trying to solve that problem.

    That’s really interesting problem to solve.

    And now I have a line of inquiry that can go down.

    Now this methodology for how I how my brain works is not right for everyone.

    There are some people who absolutely need a structured environment like a course do that know yourself know what works for you know what does not work for you.

    Some people given a problem and no apparent solution, just freeze like that’s not how they work.

    Some people need to have a person or persons mastermind or community or advisory board whatever you want to call it to bounce ideas off of because they need to talk through their problems.

    So figure out what how you solve problems best first.

    And that will help you get smarter faster.

    Really fun question Jeremy.

    Interesting question.

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