--- title: "You Ask, I Answer: Disclosure of Code by Programmers and AI?" author: "" date: 2024-06-25 url: https://www.christopherspenn.com/2024/06/you-ask-i-answer-disclosure-of-code-by-programmers-and-ai-2/ categories: - "AI" - "Code" - "Ethics" - "Law" - "Security" - "Videos" tags: - "youtube" --- # You Ask, I Answer: Disclosure of Code by Programmers and AI? ## Summary In today's episode, I explain why programmers should disclose when they copy code from GitHub or generate it with AI. Here's what this means for you. You gain a practical framework for protecting yourself legally and security-wise by documenting the lineage of every piece of code in your projects. You'll also learn these concepts: why software licenses like GPL impose real legal obligations that disclosure helps you satisfy, how untracked third-party code can introduce hostile vulnerabilities like the XZ backdoor, and how AI tools now make thorough documentation faster and easier than ever before. [embed]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VvnM0oKpJM[/embed] ## Key Takeaways - You'll discover why treating code disclosure like a food ingredients list shields you from hidden legal and security risks - You'll explore how copying code without documenting its source can expose you to GPL violations and copyright claims - You'll learn how maintaining an audit trail for every code dependency lets you respond quickly to future security vulnerabilities ## Full Transcript In today's episode, Neil said, what's the difference between a programmer copying and pasting off of GitHub and a programmer using generative AI? Should programmers have to disclose when they use GitHub to grab entire subroutines that perform commercial code functions? What's the difference between that and using AI? And why should we have to disclose the use of AI? Okay, so two reasons. Two reasons you want to disclose both instances. And I think it's important to say, I believe very strongly in disclosure. That you should say, here's what's in the box, or here's how this was made. We are not okay a product anymore that doesn't have ingredients on it. If this spice blend had no ingredients, it just said spices, we would not be okay with that. Our government regulatory agencies also would not be okay with that. But that disclosure helps a consumer understand what's in the box. In the case of food, you've got an allergy of some kind. You need to know, yeah, there's soybeans in there or sesame oil or wheat or whatever the thing is. If you are making code, Python, C, Java, Swift, you name it, and you are incorporating other pieces of code, whether it's by copy and paste off of GitHub or Stack Exchange, whether it was made by Chat GPT, you absolutely should disclose it. First, there's a licensing reason. Software is generally covered by licenses. Uh, and the license gives you tells you what you can and can't do with a piece of software. If a programmer copies and pastes code off of GitHub and they don't disclose it and document it, that they've incorporated code from somewhere else, that code they've incorporated may be under a very specific license. And that license may say, here's what you can and can't use it for. For example, uh, the new public license imposes very strict conditions on companies reusing that code, the GPL code. If a company fails to comply with the license and fails to disclose that the software is under the GPL or portions of it under the GPL, they're in legal hot water. They are in trouble. So someone copying and pasting code from the internet may be in hot water. So you absolutely want to disclose and document where you got your code from. If you're getting it from Chat GPT, you want to disclose you got it from Chat GPT so that if someone came back later and said, I'm suing you because you copied this code or you didn't adhere to the terms of the license, you can say, Nope, I use Chat GPT. Here's the outputs. I have documentation of how I got these outputs and things. I did not use your code. Now it's entirely possible that OpenAI's software may have replicated uh that, but you at least have covered your basis to say, here's where I got this from. I did not willfully infringe on your intellectual property. Reminder, by the way, um, I am not a lawyer, I cannot give legal advice. Please contact a lawyer, an actual attorney for advice specific to your situation. Second reason you should disclose is lineage. Um, there was a little bug in SSH, the secure shell that is used in pretty much every computer on the planet. In that library, there was a hack, a shadow hack with the XZ compression library, which was documented in um a critical vulnerability and exploit notice, C V E 2024 3094. If you're copying and pasting code from somewhere else, there is a non-zero chance you're ingesting hostile code. You're copying and pasting potentially hostile code into your application. You need an audit trail of where pieces of code came from, especially for security purposes, so that if it's disclosed six months or 20 years later, uh that this library or this package of this routine is in fact actually hostile. Someone knows where it came from, and they can quickly excise it or use an AI to inspect it or whatever the case may be. The bottom line of all this is that disclosure is important. Disclosure is important because it protects you. It protects you from unnecessary risk because you're no longer saying, yeah, I made this thing up entirely than myself. No, saying, No, I did this with help. Here's the help that I got, here's where it came from. And here's the lineage, the path, the chain of evidence for all the different pieces that you've you've put forth. That protects you because you can disclose that maybe you didn't have malicious intent. You can disclose that you didn't willfully infringe on a copyright or because you were adhering to a specific license. You've got to document stuff. I don't like documenting things. Believe me, ask anyone who's ever worked with me, but especially my partner Katie, how much I don't love documentation. But nowadays, documentation is easier than ever. Right? You can just hand your code, whatever to a language bottle and say, document my code for me. Infer what all these different pieces do, and then it goes through it, documents everything, you review it, and say, okay, now this is production ready because everything's documented. You've got to document things, especially in the age of AI, for legal reasons and for security reasons. So that's the answer to Neil's question. Thanks for tuning in. I'll talk to you on the next one. If you enjoyed this video, please hit the like button, subscribe to my channel if you haven't already, and if you want to know when new videos are available, hit the bell button to be notified as soon as new content is live. 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