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# So What? Fixing Up Email Deliverability

## Summary

In today's episode, I walk through how to set up SPF, DKIM, and DMARC email authentication protocols for HubSpot to fix deliverability issues. Here's what this means for you. You gain a clear path to keeping your marketing emails out of spam folders ahead of Google and Yahoo's new 2024 requirements. You'll also learn these concepts: how DNS records work together as a layered authentication system, why Postmaster Tools reveal the health of your email program, and how keeping spam complaint rates low signals list quality to major mailbox providers.

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## Key Takeaways

- You'll learn how SPF, DKIM, and DMARC records combine to authenticate your sending domains and prevent spoofing

- You'll discover how Google Postmaster Tools expose authentication rates and spam complaint thresholds so you know whether your email program stays healthy

- You'll explore why coordinating with IT and accounting for every system that sends email on your behalf prevents accidental spam flags across your organization

- You'll see how a one-click unsubscribe header and strict DMARC policies protect your deliverability under the new Google and Yahoo rules

## Full Transcript

Well, hey everyone, happy Thursday. Welcome to So What, the Marketing Analytics and Insights Live Show. I am Katie, joined by Chris and John. Hey guys. Hello.

We've been talking a lot the past few weeks, months about generative AI. And we also we wanted to sort of step back from that just this week. Um, because it's not the only thing going on in digital marketing. If anything, it's overshadowing everything else. And so we wanted to acknowledge that there's more to digital marketing and what's going on in the industry than just generative AI.

So this week, we're talking about fixing up email deliverability. Uh we'll talk through how to set up your uh SPF, DKIM, and DMARC for your HubSpot instance. Got it. Uh how to how to test your implementation with email tools, and how to monitor your email deliverability with Gmail Postmaster tools. So this came about as a question that Chris was uh working on with a community member.

And it sort of struck us that, oh right, you know, this sort of the digital marketing different channels come second nature to us, but we also want to remind everybody that there's other things going on in digital marketing. Um, and so, Chris, do you want to give a little more background to what's going on with uh this email deliverability question and where we want to start today? Absolutely. So uh for those who are uh Hubspot users, you got a notice in mid-November saying, hey, starting in February 2024, aka next month. Google and Yahoo are tightening restrictions on what you need to have in place to get your email delivered.

Yahoo's got a big announcement over on their website, Google's got uh their announcement. But it basically boils down to three things one click on subscribes, uh authentication with protocols, and then uh establishing a DMARC policy. So let's uh before we jump in, let's do a quick recap. Spam has been a problem for a really long time with email. It's it's one of the uh oldest uh challenges out there.

And these protocols exist to essentially tell email companies like email and Yahoo, hey, we are who we say we are, right? You know, when you get an email from us, it really is from us. It's not from some spam or pretending to be us. And to do the implementation well, you're going to need a few different ingredients. You're going to need obviously your HubSpot instance.

Uh, you will probably need you probably need to talk to someone in IT if you have an IT team. If you don't, that's fine. You will need access to your DNS settings. So DNS domain name system is when you buy a domain name, you will typically get a control panel with your vendor, or you can use third-party service like Cloudflare that allows you to make changes that tell the servers around the internet how to find you, how to find your company's website, your email, and so on and so forth. Uh, you will need a text editor also as well.

And you will probably want some coffee or with a caffeine beverage of your choice. I mean, seriously, you're rattling off these things, and I'm like, wow, I'm so glad I have a Chris Penn on my team to handle this stuff because I'm already lost. Yep. So SPF set stands for send a policy framework. It is a text string that is in your DNS that says, hey, here's places we are sending email from.

Right. So I'm gonna go over. So uh at Trust Insights, we use a company called Cloudflare. There's a free plan. We're on the free plan.

Um that you you sign up for it, and then you tell wherever it is you bought your domain name, hey, I'm using Cloudflare now. They have they have a sign-up steps to migrate over to the system. I like this because I just like having everything in one place, but it doesn't matter. Any place that you've bought a domain name, you have the ability to make these changes. I just find Cloud Force Flare's implementation easier.

What these records are when you hear D SPF and DKIM and DMARC, they're just text strings that it gets attached to your domain name that say, hey, here's where we are. So I'm gonna pull up, let's just open up the edit box here for uh actually let's go with our SPF record first. You can see it's just a piece of text. And this piece of text says, here's how here's where we are sending email from. So let's start with uh your HubSpot instance itself.

Uh in HubSpot, they actually provide some very good uh uh uh documentation on how you use DMARC policy, how you get an SPF record, and how you set up DKIM within your HubSpot instance. If you just go to the settings in your Hub, you click your icon, go to settings, go down to website domains and URLs. In here, you can start by connecting your domain. So I'm gonna go ahead and click on connect domain. And we're we want to do an email sending domain.

So this is not, you know, for your landing pages and stuff. This is for email sending. Now I will also caveat. We are only on HubSpot sales. We do not use HubSpot marketing.

I believe HubSpot Marketing there's more options, but either way, you want email sending. It will ask you, give us an example email address of an email address that you send email from. So I'll put in our client services email address. And it says your email comes from this, right? Yeah, that is correct.

So it says it essentially goes through and does a connection and it will show up here as a connected sending domain. This takes care of the domain key identification protocol, DKIM. That's pretty straightforward for getting that connected. The next thing we have to do is we have to adjust the SPF record. HubSpot will give you a hint about how to do that.

If you click on advanced options, bottom is SPF record, just hit copy on that. And now pull up your text editor. I noticed on that, Chris, it actually said setting up an SPF record is optional. It sounds like based on what I'm hearing you say, is it's really not optional to have really good email deliverability and IG. Correct.

And with SPF in particular, like so Dmark is the newest protocol. It's nine years old. SPF, I want to say it's like 15 years old. I mean, these things have been around for a while. The reason why marketers don't know about them is because it's largely the provenance of IT, right?

Not to cast dispersions on our marketing brethren, but most marketers should not be monkeying around in their DNS. Um, because you can do very bad things like remove your site from the internet. Um, you know, it's funny you say that. I'll tell a quick anecdote while you're getting set up. When I worked at uh when I was the product manager at a company, our developers gave us instructions to edit our DNS files on our computers in order to switch the different uh environments that they were developing on so that we could see things on staging and on uh production, you know, one versus the other.

And they were basically just loosely giving out these instructions saying like, oh, you just do this and you change your local host file and you do this the that and the other. And it was so dangerous looking back because given into the hands of people who had no idea what they were doing, and it c it did cause a lot of chaos. They spent more time fixing people's DNS files than they did actually developing. So just as uh, you know, Chris is making a good point, like just don't monkey around with your files if you don't know what you're doing. Right.

Um or as the kids say, F around and find out. Um that's each other poor policy. Okay. So SPF records. Um, the easiest way to to build them is with uh one of the many, many, many, many free wizards that are available on the internet.

Um I happen to like MX Toolbox, but you can Google SPF Wizard and find the the tool of your choice, you know, depending on on you know what is easier for you. Uh I'm going to veto that. Chris recommends MX Toolbox, use MX Toolbox. Google will go, you know, there are many Russian sites that would love to mess with your your record. So go with what Chris has proven.

Um so SPF West uh Wizard will ask things like do you send email from your web server, right? Uh if no or yes, you specify this. Do you send email from the same server in your MX records? So this question means whatever it is system that you use to send email in your MX records, do you send email from that same uh service? Uh in this case for us, we do.

We use Google Suite uh for businesses. So that is the domain that we send email from. Any enter any other server hosting or domain that delivers email from your domain. So if you use Marketo or Pardot or whatever, HubSpot, et cetera, um you would put that in there. For now, we don't want to do, we don't want to leave fill that in because we copied this directly from HubSpot.

So we're gonna we're gonna leave that here. And it says enter your domain's IP address range and your IPv6 address range. So wherever your domain is sending email from, if it's a a dedicated server, other than Google Post, Google Suite or Microsoft Outlook, you know, Office 365, whatever those things, if it's something that if there's a physical box that you administer, that the information would go here. And then uh you would have um third-party systems uh like Google, etc. And then for this for the strictness, um start with neutral.

Um what it has done is that it unfortunately it's already pulled our existing record, so this is not what the average person is going to see. Um let me show you how you would format this. So initially, you had the VSPF1, and then there's our HubSpot record, right? Um you're also, if you go to your email service providers documentation for Google Suite, for example, you have Google's, which is uh which is this one here for for G Suite, and you basically start gluing together your SPF statement. Um any other services that you send from.

So for example, with us, we do send email from Amazon. We sent email from uh Amazon Simple Email Service. We use the Modic marketing automation system, and Amazon is our back end. So this is another really important point. You probably, if you have an IT department, if you have an ID IT team, you absolutely positively should be talking to them about like, hey, what systems do we use?

Um and or talks about, hey, what about oh, I don't know, uh can you help with this? Because there are some teams in corporate IT like we're not you know, you're you're not gonna touch this. So if I understand at a high level what this SPF string, this text is meant to say, it's basically saying verify that it's trust insights when you get the at trustinsights.ai email, and it comes from one of these various domains from this range of IP addresses. That's correct. So if an email comes from this Hubspot domain, this Google domain, this Amazon domain, or these IP addresses, these IP addresses are from our website.

We host on WP Engine. Uh, so we have the domain ranges. SPF is saying, yes, you're legit. I will let this email through because it it mat when the email comes in, it matches these records. That's that's what SPF does.

It is important to have any place that is sending email on your behalf, right? So uh I saw last week I was looking at the website for an upcoming conference, and they're like, oh, uh, you need to whitelist our domain because for some reason our our emails are not getting through to people. I look in there and like, but you you don't have your mail service in your SPF records. So everything you send is being interpreted as spam. Like that's you you're telling everyone you are sp- you are the biggest spammer for your domain.

Well, and it's a sort of go back to the instruction from HubSpot, and it's saying that this setting up your SPF record is optional. My sense is that this is probably the root of a lot of companies' deliverability issues. And this is the step that's often either skipped or not known that they need to do because of instructions like this is optional. Exactly. Yeah, another way too I've seen this botch now is people are at this point here and they're only concerned about their own department.

So you set this up and you don't realize that oh, customer service, those tickets actually come from Zendesk. And so if you set this up and you haven't talked to other departments about what services they're mailing email from, you could inadvertently send all the customer service requests into spam and totally kill that. Um, and so uh one workaround for that is that's why you'll see a lot of companies have like customer service at you know, customer service.acme corp.com or whatever have different domains so that if other departments are messing with this, they're not killing their stuff. Yep, exactly. Uh and that reason raises a good point.

If you have a ma a male subdomain, it will probably have its own SPF records, or it should because one of the one of the problem, one of the things that's a best practice for larger corporations is your marketing emails should come from separate subdomain ad than your customer service emails. Because if marketing misbehaves and gets you know crap listed, uh at least your customer service and transactional emails will still get through. Okay. So we've got our I'm gonna go ahead and copy in our uh our record here. So this is this is our current record.

I'm just gonna expand on this a bit. We're actually gonna make a change to our record. You'll notice it says include hubspot email.net. Uh HubSpot gave us this very specific uh include, and we're gonna replace that in ours. And the reason for that is you don't want other people with HubSpot instances pretending to be you.

So we're we're gonna swap this in one in. So we're gonna take this whole string now in your domain name system. If this record were not here, I would say we're gonna add a new record. The type of record is a text record, right? Um, and then from there, from there, you're gonna choose your domain name as your uh as the name of it.

So trust insights.ai. And then the content is that SPF record. I'm gonna hit cancel here because we already have this and you don't want to double up records. Um, but I am going to replace our current content with that change to the HubSpot one. I have the time to live set to two minutes, which means that every two minutes uh it's gonna go through uh the the worldwide DNS servers will take a look at this and say, Hey, has that changed?

Um, so if you had this set to say um five hours, for example, if you make a change to this record, it will take five hours for that to propagate around the internet. But set to two minutes, it will do its thing. Um, if you're using a service like Cloudflare, there's a good chance you can just use auto. I just chose two minutes because I want things to be updated sooner rather than later. Yeah, right.

Remember that that's not how fast do you feel it should propagate? It's when it hits the fan, how fast do you need to be able to clean up? Right. If you've screwed up and set that to a day and you screw something up, now you have to wait a day for it to fix, but by keeping it down at two minutes, hopefully you're gonna uh get a life raft faster. Yep.

Um, so Chris, we have a question regarding what you've been talking about. Um, so when I am setting up my domain for emailing in HubSpot, it is asking me to update my DNS records. Is that going to mess up me getting my email through Gmail? So that's a good question. Um, receiving email is different than sending email.

So for sending email, the SPF record update, which is what we're doing now, is the primary mechanism that you're gonna work on. You will also notice that in or should notice in your DNS, there are things called MX records. This is the mail exchange records. These are the to receive email. So again, we use Google Suite, so you can see that we have five different uh MX records here that say, Hey, when email comes into the trustinsights.ai domain, where should that email be routed to?

And we have, you know, essentially Google's five different servers that they told they tell you to do when you're setting up Google Google work workspace. So um when you update your SPF record, as long as you don't touch your MX records, there will be no change from how you get email today. Okay. All right. So that's SPF.

And if you do it right, then it's it's it's literally just one line of text that goes in your uh in your record. So we've done DKIM from inside HubSpot itself. We've done SPF. Now we need to go and do our DMARC record. Uh the DMARC record is a third protocol.

So DMARC is again, it's another authentication mechanism that says, hey, when email comes in, um verify that's from us. Uh again, do your your do uh the Google search for the DMARC uh wizard of your choice. I like to use the DMarcion. Dmarcian is a company that provides DMARC services. I don't use their services, I just use their their wizard because it's a pretty easy wizard.

Um so the wizard is pretty straightforward. What email do you want to create a record for? Let's do trust insights.ai. Before you do a DMARC record, you must, must, must have SPF and DKIM done. It is reliant on those two protocols.

So you cannot do this first. All right, what kind of policy do you DMARC policy record do you want? So one of the things that DMARC does is it specifies where questionable email should be sent, right? So there's three settings. There's this permissive, quarantine, and and reject.

In general, people should start with collect data. Um, however, it um one of the things that was discussed in in both the Yahoo and the Google uh statements was they they may be looking for less permissive DMARC implementations. They would they want to see DMARC implementation, period. So you're gonna start with collect data. Eventually, you'll probably move to quarantine.

We actually ran into issues with this with um QuickBooks. So at one point, Katie was sending out an invoice from QuickBooks and it didn't match our DMARC records, and so those invoices just went to dull black holes. We fixed that by adding QuickBooks to the record senders. You definitely don't want that to happen. You want your invoices to go out on time to the right book.

Exactly. Which again is one of those things where having your administrative emails separate from your marketing emails, it could be a good thing. Okay, where do you want your aggregate reports sent? So you need a working email address to put in here that will receive emails from ISPs that will say, like, hey, this this is what we see. Again, this has to be a working email address.

And I strongly recommend if you have if you you know have the time to do so, set up a separate inbox because the amount of email you get is gargantuan. So we use uh the trust insights, we have a newsletter mailbox for this, and just to give you a sense real quick here, let me uh close my sidebar here. That's the one. There we go. You get hundreds of notifications per day in this inbox.

And what's in these emails is essentially log files. So these log files are coming in from the different services like Google and Yahoo and everybody else saying, hey, we got this email. Here's uh it says your domain has a DMARC record set up. Um here's the return address. Uh and so you should probably read this and make sure everything is is good to go.

Um I do recommend once in a blue moon checking that to make sure it is back to, you know, no one's spamming on your behalf, but at the same time, you probably want do not want this in your main inbox, or you'll never see the rest of your inbox again. I have a question. Um, excuse me. Um, I remember uh when I worked at that same company that allowed us to uh edit our own DNS records, which was in our local host files, uh, once a week from IT, we would get a request to log into a portal that basically had all of we had to manually whitelist and blacklist emails that were coming in through our system. Uh and so basically, you know, because the name of my company uh at the time had two X's in the name, it often got uh marked as spam.

But then that meant also emails coming into our system were getting flagged and quarantined. So we would log into this quarantine system. Excuse me, is that something that do you think companies still do that? Is that very old school? Like, has it evolved?

Has email deliverability evolved to where you don't you shouldn't be going through a system weekly to unquarantine things? Oh no, the companies still do that. Um Google Workspace still does that. In fact, Google Workspace, um, I as a system administrator get messages saying, hey, this thing has this email uh has been quarantined. I even get notifications about outgoing emails saying, hey, this looks suspicious.

John has sent a couple of suspicious looking emails, at least according to Google. Uh, and I always have to go into the system and say, release this, it's fine. John, John's just asking you to uh to hire Trust Insights. Oh, I always mark John as super suspicious. This is super bloody.

Um, so let's put in, I'll gotta go ahead and put in uh newsletter at trustinsights.ai as our aggregate report mailbox. Do you want to receive individual failure reports? The answer here is no, unless you are running into deliverability problems where you want to see individual reports. Um you will still get aggregate reports and they're big, but the individual reports will give you a report on every single email address that bounces. If you want to make sure that someone in your company never gets email again, those set this to yes.

Um can I volunteer? Uh I guess I guess the answer is no. I mean, you're the boss, so it's awkward. So do you want relaxed or strict? Again, start off with relaxed.

You can upgrade to strict later. Um, what this means is it looks for uh pass and fails on DKIM uh and SPF. And if it fails either one, uh then emails just don't get through. Do you want a different policy for subdomains? Again, if you are a bigger company, you have mail.trustinsights.ai or accounting.trust insights.ai or marketing.trustinsights.ai, you would use separate domains and have different policies for each of the domains to to keep them, subdomains keep them separate.

And what percentage of email do you want supply to to apply to? If you're starting for report only, set it to 100%. Uh, if you are starting it for um quarantine or reject, start at like 10% to see just to make sure that nothing has gone wrong. From a governance perspective, if you're gonna make changes like that, probably tell people first like, hey, this Sunday we're changing things. So if you stop getting email, please let IT know.

It seems, you know, it's interesting because like that kind of advice feels so like, oh duh, of course we're gonna do this. 10 times out of 10, that communication never happens, and people come in Monday freaking out that like their inbox hasn't updated for six hours. Yeah, and they're doing it on Cyber Monday too. Always. It's never convenient.

Exactly. So here's our DMARC record. We're gonna go back into Cloudflare. Um, and again, as we did before, uh, you can see here we have uh a single text record. The record name is uh underscore DMARC.

Here's our content, which is this the DMARC string that comes out, right? So it has here's the here's the return address. Ours is slightly different than what came out of the wizard because Cloudflare also allows you to do DMARC management with them. So I'll show you that in just a second. But this is DMARC.

Uh the the strictness right now is set to uh to monitor only, and you can see our um our return address there for where the reports go. So I'm gonna hit cancel because nothing's different there. So that would be the third protocol to set up. Now, if you're using any other DNS provider, uh, you know, GoDaddy or whoever, at this point, you're done. You've got your record set.

If you're using Cloudflare, um, you go to the email and there's a DMARC management panel. Uh, this is a bit this tools in beta. You can give it a test, and it will tell you, hey, here's as email starts to come in I just turned this on like 10 minutes ago so it's it there's nothing here but as email starts to come in uh it will read some of those reports for you which is super nice um and then summarize it and tell you like hey this is what I see happen. That is really handy. Uh so prior to that how would you uh get that information?

Oh you would suffer. Um well I guess I'm asking I'm asking the question because not everyone's using Cloudflare and maybe not everyone has the option to turn on features uh they don't have permissions. I I will show you you get log files every day and in those log files you have to go through and parse and read each of the log files and judge the conditions of the log files. They're all in XML format so they're open formats um but it's it's not pretty yeah that does not look like fun. No it's not fun.

That's why there are like there are actually our companies that will just do this for you. They were paid services in the past now obviously Cloudflare is offering it as part of their free package which is which is really really nice. Okay so you've now gone through and you've done SPF, DKIM and DMARC and you've set them up for your HubSpot instance while not blowing up all of your other existing email infrastructure which again I I can't say that enough you've got to work together with with other other teams if you have them. The last thing you want to do is you want to make sure that you have access, and you may again, you may have to work with IT if you work at a large organization to Google's Postmaster tools. Postmaster tools, and we've done a live stream on the pat in the past on this, but um it's probably worth revisiting.

Uh, is a free service from Google. Go to postmaster.google.com. You will have to authenticate your domain. You'll have to verify that you are an authorized administrator of your domain. It's a relatively simple process.

And then you get access to a lovely control panel that tells you these these seven things. Um for authentication, authentication. This is one thing where Google is a little weird. Um, and there are multiple warnings about this from HubSpot from Mailgun from all these companies. Whatever reason, Google always shows SPF as a soft fail, and we don't know why, but it is.

Um so if your SPF in Postmaster Tool shows a zero, don't panic. As long as the record is there, and again, you can use use uh MX Toolbox to validate the record is okay. Um you don't need to worry about Google's thing. If you see the thing to pay attention to for Google is the DMARC success rate, if DMARC success is below 100%, you know there's a problem. So this will tell you that Google is seeing things a okay.

Yahoo doesn't have this. I don't know why. They just they they provide no feedback. Um that's one key part. Another key part of uh this is let's go to our spam rate.

Google has said, I believe Yahoo said this as well, they're holding people now to a 0.3% spam rate, which means that on your list, fewer on it on a uh they didn't say what aggregate number, but I'm presumably it's probably either weekly or monthly. Um, you must be at a 0.3%, you know, report as spam, mark as spam rate or lower. So you'll see, for example, here we we brushed with that on December 11th or 0.2, but we've just for the last 60 days, we have consistently stayed below that number. So we our list is healthy, our our email services are healthy. We are um we are not annoying people.

Um, I probably asked this question on the past episode when we covered Google Postmaster tools. And if you want past episodes, you can go to trustinsights.ai slash YouTube uh and search for the episode there under our uh so what playlist. Are there other tools besides Google Postmaster tools that you can use to do this kind of analysis? Um, MX Toolbox will let you know um for like old school uh blacklists if you're if you're a domain or your servers are on anyone's blacklist. So it will say like, hey, uh we found uh you on this list.

Um we are we are not on any blacklists right now, which is nice, um, but it will say, like, hey, you know, you were flagged by by one or more of these places. Um because you like to talk about uh regulations. I know the FTC has the can spam act, which they launched in 2003. Where does this apply? And is it still something that's relevant to email marketers?

Um in present day, 21 years later. Can spam was appropriately named because it basically it was Congress's attempt at legislation that was so miserably backwards that basically told people exactly how they can spam you. Um, and and so it is as legislation goes completely ineffective. Um the the uh legislation that is the most strict in the world right now is Canada's. So the Canadian anti-spam law or castle uh is the the most stringent.

And essentially it is very much what we're implementing now. Uh so one click on subscriber, easy on subscribe, you know, fast response. You cannot send unsolicited uh commercial email, right? So you can't just go you know cold emailing people. Uh and there are decent fines for for doing that.

The EU has some similar spam laws, but Canada's are the toughest right now. Gotcha. No, that's helpful because I remember when I was first starting, and this was back around 2005, so their law was only two years old. Uh, there was a lot of talk about how we don't violate the can spam because I believe it was something ridiculous, like a fine of sixteen thousand dollars per spammy email, you know, that they catch you on. And it was just ridiculous money, and we everybody was terrified.

Yeah. Um, yeah, the can't spam law is largely ineffective. Um David uh asked a question in um in in chat uh about setting up BIMI. So BIMI is a protocol that's built on top of DMARC. Um, what it does is it is essentially branding for your emails, and that requires you to set up some DNS records, but then you have to go and pay uh a bunch of money on a on a regular basis.

John, you want you you looked at this most recently. You want to talk about it? Yeah, I've done this a couple of times. So it is on certain male clients, it's cool because you'll see this where you see an icon for all the messages, but you'll actually see a company logo for like Bank of America or some airlines or some of these huge brands. And of course, that makes sense because these brands are getting spam so many times.

Like you get these all these things in your inbox about how you know your Bank of America account needs you to log in. And I'm like, I don't even have a bank account of America account. How can this be happening? And so BIMI is basically kind of the cream of the crop, but unfortunately it is priced accordingly. Um I think it's something like it's last time I looked about a year and a half ago or so around there, it was like five thousand dollars a year for that certification.

And then there's some other fees too that go into it. I think like for each brand you want to have in there that there's more cash on top of that. So that's pretty much, you know, if you have a 20 person marketing department, you're not gonna notice it, but for mid to si mid-size to smaller businesses, it's probably uh way out of your budget. There's better things you can do with money. Exactly.

Um, so the big thing to remember here for Postmaster Tools is you do want to keep an eye on your authentication uh rates and and make sure that they're not they're not like you know, going downwards. Um and again, r remember that SPF does not work for whatever reason within Google. Uh and then you want to look at your market spam rate, how many people are marking your spam? And you want to keep that to point three percent or lower. So three one thousandths of a percent uh or lower, uh, because that's what the the new threshold is.

So if you do all these steps, so SPF, DKIM, DMARC, and then monitor in Postmaster Tools, uh, and you have the your email service provider provides the one click unsubscribe mechanism, um, you will be okay. I will warn you right now, B2B email provide B2B marketers are going to experience a lot of hardship uh with with these changes because one click unsubscribe is something that it can be very problematic. The reason for it is a lot of corporate firewalls will get an email and click on every single link automatically to detect malware. If you have a true one-click unsubscribe mechanism, uh that the corporate firewall just unsubscribe to your entire list for that company. And there's really no good workaround for that.

The better implementations of that are, you know, you go to a one-click takes you to an unsubscribe page and someone just confirms that they want to unsubscribe. Um, and that is better. That it wait remains to be seen whether or not that's the implementation Google's looking for. Um Google also says looking for the list unsubscribe header, which is programmatically sent uh behind the scenes. And if in Gmail, there if a company has set that up properly, there'll be an unsubscribe from this list um button inside the Gmail interface that will send the appropriate data to the sender.

HubSpot says they're going to be implementing it soon. Uh, I you know you will have to check with your vendor of choice as to how that works. Um, but most marketing automation software that it's reputable should support that. So if I can sort of summarize where we're at a little bit, am I understanding correctly that to do your uh deliverability hygiene and set up correctly, it doesn't all happen through one single system. So if I set up my CRM, then I look in my settings.

The settings aren't advanced enough to be able to confidently send emails through that system and know that they're gonna get through to my customers. Correct. Yeah, if you have multiple vendors or tools that are sending email, you have to, as we did, kind of Frankenstein stuff together so that you account for all the sources of email in your organization in one single SPF and DKIM setup. If you don't do that, then yeah, it's it's going to get not pretty. Well, and it sounds like even if you have a very simple tech stack, so let's say you're just using uh Google Suite and you're just using HubSpot, for example, those are two different domains that you could be sending emails from.

And so you still want to go through this process even for a very simplistic uh tech stack. Yeah. I mean, we use HubSpot, we use Mautic through with through Amazon, and we use Google Workspace. And you saw in our SPF uh statement, we had to account for those systems plus our website. So our website itself, which is hosted on WP Engine has its own IP range, and we had to make sure that the IP addresses of our web server are also there.

Because when you fill out a form on the Trust Insights website, um the we use a tool called Gravity Forms. It's part of WordPress. That is sending email from the physical web server itself. So it's not used, it's not connected to HubSpot directly. So it's not sending the email through HubSpot, it's not sending email through uh Mautic, it is sending it from uh WordPress itself.

And so that needs to be in there too. If you skip that step, then what you may find is that people will fill out a contact form on your website and it goes to send a confirmation email to the customer and they never get it. Hmm. Don't forget our friends at QuickBooks. And QuickBooks, yes.

Accounting systems, sales systems. Where again, this comes back to good IT governance. Where does email come from in your organization? Yeah. Always got to start with the your requirements and what systems are you using.

Um, so let's say we set all of this up. How do we know it's working? How do we test this? So testing it is a matter of so there's a couple different ways. Um straightforward way is to set up a uh a consumer mailbox on most systems, a hot mail address, a Gmail address, a Yahoo address, and check them, right?

So subscribe into your lists and then see like, hey, did you did our test accounts get those emails? So for example, you know, we have we all have personal Gmail addresses. Uh I'm subscribed to all of our stuff on our things, and I make sure we get our emails every week when we send them. Um I often use my personal Gmail account to fill out forms on the Trust Insights website to again just to make sure that the email gets through. Um there are companies, uh Litmus, uh Validity, uh return path, oh the return path is part of validity now.

Um that have essentially paid versions of this. So what they do is they have tens of thousands of of dummy accounts set up around the around the world. And when uh you know they they basically monitor those for your sends, and then the those services are as you would expect, reassuringly expensive. Um, but they do work really well. Well, and depending on the nature, I was gonna say depending on the nature of your business, that might be worth it.

Yeah, absolutely. Because I I've used some of those services in the past, and it's great. You can go to a screen and it will have you know a grid of 65 things, and it's like, okay, here's your email on like every single major phone, every single major tablet, every single major browser, and to be able to just see on 65 different platforms in one shot what's working. Yeah, if you're that size, those tools are a huge uh benefit, huge value. Yep.

And with Postmaster Tools, it should be someone's job in your company or on your team to check this console and spam rate and authentication rate once once a quarter, once a month. Depends on how important email marketing is to your company, right? So if email marketing is a critical part of your business, then you should check this this console accordingly. Uh I check it once a month. Uh I look I just go and look at it and go, huh, that's weird.

Um, but thankfully for you know, trust instance, it's because we don't do bad stuff with our our our data, um, we don't have a complaints problem. Is there a way in this system to set up uh alerts that could, I know ironic, email you or notify you somehow to say like you've gone over your threshold or something. So basically you wouldn't have to go into the tool. You could basically just say, like, you know, if my you know spam goes above this number, you know, basically set off the alarm bells and bring me into the system. Because I hear what you're saying about like for us, we don't send a lot of email, um, you know, outside of our normal client communications, that kind of thing.

Um, you know, so checking it once a month is fine for us, but for companies that are doing big heavy email marketing programs, enterprise size companies, even businesses that are just starting, they have to check it a little bit more frequently. Uh, not for this tool in particular, but again, we you have when you pay a company like Validity, they handle all the monitoring and reporting for you. And you know, I remember last time um I I worked with Return Path, which is a while ago now, is something like $10 or $15,000 a month. Oh, so, you know, nice and affordable. You know, if you're Amazon, that's like pocket change.

You will find that in the couch cushions. No, that excuse me, that makes sense. Um, we have another question. Um, and I think this is a good place for us to start to wrap up. Um, if you are a solo printer freelancer and don't have an IT team, which a lot of you know companies don't or uh individuals don't.

Is there a company you would recommend who can help set these things up for us or keep us in compliance? No. I'm gonna go ahead and say trust insights.ai slash contact. Um, you know, I Chris literally, and I I don't mean like Chris literally Chris literally wrote a book on uh email marketing. It is aside from generative AI, one of his favorite things about digital marketing.

Um he spent a lot of time working in email marketing. He obviously knows the ins and outs of tech uh and things that go into it and hygiene. You know, I personally don't know anyone better suited to do uh email deliverability, and that is completely biased. Um, because you know, obviously it serves us. But I say that in, you know, Chris has been able to debunk pretty much any other vendor that we've ever looked at and say, well, they're not doing these six things.

So I would say definitely give us a shout first, and if we're not the right fit, we can certainly connect you with someone else. I forgot I actually wrote two books on email. He literally wrote the two books on email marketing. Neither of which is available anymore. Would you add anything to that, Chris?

No, I mean, again, it's one of those things that ideally, as long as you don't change your Martex deck once it's done, that's just a question of monitoring it and to make sure that the things are working. But it's it these are systems that you should not be messing with on a regular frequent basis. So you know, get it done then then then really set it and forget it. Mm-hmm. John, final thoughts.

Well, I do have more bad news. You know, that there is reputation scoring in there too. So, like, even if you have all this technical stuff straight, you can still behave badly and get treated poorly because of that. Um, so there is another level of stuff up there. But yeah, this is a great place to start.

Like you've got to have if if you want to have any chance of getting your email through, you've got to do all this stuff. So run through all this and get that going, and at least you're you know making the best effort. And after that, don't be a jerk. I guess that's the my parting shot. Yeah, I mean, don't don't send crappy email that yeah that people don't want.

That that tends to help an awful lot. Um all right. So that's gonna do it for this week on email deliverability. Thanks for tuning in, and we'll talk to you next time. Thanks for watching today.

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