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# So What? Bing Webmaster Tools

## Summary

In today's episode, I walk through Bing Webmaster Tools and how it stacks up against Google Search Console for marketers. Here's what this means for you. You gain a free, overlooked source of high-efficiency traffic that can deliver qualified clicks from roughly a quarter of the search market. You'll also learn these concepts: how Bing's stronger clicks-to-impressions ratio makes it more efficient than Google, why Bing's use of social signals and meta keywords still matters for SEO, and how tools like IndexNow and crawl control let you push fresh content faster.

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## Key Takeaways

- You'll learn how Bing Webmaster Tools exposes roughly 25% of search traffic that Google Search Console misses through Bing's partnerships with Yahoo, AOL, DuckDuckGo, and Ecosia

- You'll discover why Bing's clicks-to-impressions ratio is dramatically higher than Google's, making every Bing ranking far more valuable than the equivalent Google position

- You'll see how IndexNow and crawl control settings let you push fresh content to Bing immediately rather than waiting for its slower once-per-day crawl schedule

- You'll explore the differences between Bing and Google in ranking factors such as social signals, exact match keywords, and meta keywords that Bing still considers

- You'll find practical actions for quarterly Bing reviews like fixing flagged errors, refreshing old posts, and archiving zero-impression pages with redirects

## Full Transcript

Well, happy Thursday, everyone. Welcome to So What, the Marketing Analytics and Insights Live Show. I'm Katie, joined by Chris and John. This week we are talking about Bing Webmaster Tools. This came about because after last week's episode of what to do when your SEO stops working, I said to Chris, should we be paying attention to Bing Webmaster Tools?

Is that a search engine that we need to care about? So behind the scenes, we started to dig into well, how much traffic does Bing bring us? What are the differences? You can see in uh our issue of our newsletter yesterday. If you want to subscribe, go to TrustInsights.ai slash newsletter.

Chris actually explored a lot of the differences from a data perspective of Google Search Console and Big Webmaster Tools. In a nutshell, they kind of operate the same way, but because they're different search engines, different audiences, different intentions, you're gonna get different results. So in today's episode, we're gonna cover what is Bing Webmaster Tools, how is it different from Google Search Console, and what data to consider, what to look at. So Chris, where would you like to start today? Let's start briefly by um talking a bit about Bing itself.

So search engine journal does this roundup every year. Bing also partners with other search engines. Yahoo, AOL, DuckDuckGo, Ecosia, MSN, Lycos. Um, the Bing API is used by Alexa uh for some. Uh used by Alexa and other Amazon devices.

Pretty much if it's a search engine that is not run by Google, it's probably in some fashion fueled by Bing, either in part or in whole. So that's one of the reasons why we had to pay attention to it. In another related article, uh they calculated that something like 25% of searches are behind the scenes handled by Bing's data set. So optimizing for um Bing's search engine using their webmaster tools and their webmaster guidelines is a good idea. That way we know uh that we're reaching uh not only uh more of an audience, but also potentially a different audience and possibly, depending on your efforts, a a better audience.

The other thing that makes Bing really different, um, well, a few things. One, they have APIs for just about everything, and they want you to use them, right? Google has been notorious for decades now about uh concealing their data, concealing everything that goes on behind the scenes and stuff for good reason because um people try to game it. Uh Bing outright says, hey, here's how we rank your content, and you know, they give you a bunch of the technical factors. Now, this is not you know down to uh individual data sets, but they're pretty open and clear.

Here's how we decide what's relevant. One of the interesting things that sets Bing apart from Google is they do a little bit more with exact match keywords. Google has switched fully to natural language processing. Um, so Bing is there's still um some of the older school SEO. But interestingly, they take social media signals into account.

They overtly say we pay attention to stuff like things that are trending on Twitter and stuff because it's influential. Um you would be hard pressed to argue that that you know major social networks are not influential and they take that into account in their algorithm, where Google has said we don't count that as a ranking factor. It's not something that um we may use it for indexing. Now, whether Google actually does or not, we don't know. But Bing openly says uh that is the case.

We we do count this stuff. So given all that, uh it's probably a good idea at minimum for uh companies to have uh Bing Webmaster tools set up and see what they're what's happening behind the scenes. So I think it's interesting because I think you know, so you're saying that Bing plus all of the other search engines that partners with is 25% market share, give or take. And so if you think about that in terms of the potential traffic, 75% uh 25% of your potential traffic is not insignificant, especially we had done, and this is you know a little bit off topic, we had done a calculation for one of our clients about how much potential revenue organic search traffic brings into their company. And this was an enterprise-sized company that 25% of their potential revenue would have been you know, at least a few hundred thousand dollars.

And so it's not something to just bypass completely like, oh, well, I have Google, that's good enough. Exactly. Now, the the nice thing is that Bing and Google do share the majority of marking uh uh ranking factors. For example, have good quality content, right? And get links to it.

That's that's pretty common. So there's not a whole lot of, you know, you're not gonna create content just for one search engine or the other, for the most part, you're gonna create the best content you can regardless. But they do um there are some differences uh, you know, in the more technical side of things. Um Google has all of its core web vitals. Bing really looks at load times.

Uh they they they very much care about you know just how fast can you load your page. Not that much, you know, like how much is it jumping around or you know, the cumulative layout shifts and things like that. That's not as important to them. It's just make your page as fast uh as fast as possible. So uh maybe in another time or another show we can talk about uh different ways for doing that.

Although we did cover that in the Cloudflare episode uh a few episodes back. So when you pop into Bing Webmaster Tools, you gotta go through and register your site as usual, prove that you own it, and then you end up with a an interface that looks pretty much like Google Search Console, except that there's a few more uh tools, a few different tools that you have here that you don't have uh in Google. So let's start with good old-fashioned search performance. Uh one of the nice things that uh Bing has that Google does not do uh is they put your errors right inside uh the the tool as well. So you can see, like, you know, hey, there's you know, the site their crawler ran into some issues on your website.

Please go take a look at it. And you can well, we'll get to where that is located later, but you can also see you know your index pages, uh how busy was the crawler, and then of course your clicks and your impressions. Like Google, you can get your keywords and your pages to see what pages are getting impressions and clicks. And the metrics are pretty much the same. So impressions are the number of times that you showed your site showed up in search, and then clicks are the number of times those listings got clicked uh in Bing.

So that's you know, that's what's in the search performance section. John, have you ever I'm putting you on the spot, but have you ever looked at uh which search engine traffic comes from for marketing over coffee? No, actually we haven't. I mean, I have in the past, but it's been years since I've looked at any of that stuff. I mean, this is always fascinating to me because most places I've ever been, you know, Bing has been less than 10%, so it just gets left, you know, ignored completely.

So it's it's just interesting to see. Like I didn't realize this interface has come this far. I mean, it's obvious it's funny, it's total Google knockoff, but it is interesting to be able to drill down and see this stuff. It is. Um as with uh, you know, uh Google, you can look at a URL, it'll tell you if there's issues.

Like one thing that it constantly highlights on our site is that we have multiple H1 tags on our homepage, which we do. Um, it will also let you see your uh technical markup, your uh your uh schema to see what's in there, and it's always a good idea to look in there and see if there's anything that's you know glaringly wrong. Um there's site explorer lets you dig through your site and see individual pages and crawls, uh site maps, you can see how many site maps and how many pages uh it's discovered again. As with Google Search Console, uh, if this number is not the number of actual pages you have, you probably have had something go horrendously wrong. One thing that's known about Bing that is different from Google is Google stops by and checks a lot more often than Bing does.

Bing usually uh seems to stop by about once a day. Google can, depending on your site, can stop by like hourly. Is that something that you can change in the settings, or is that something that's just completely out of your control? Like I know that you can manually submit URLs and site maps, but in terms of the automated checks, can you change that cadence? You can, and we'll actually get to that in the configuration section.

There are ways to put some uh controls on that. Now, two things that are different than Google. One is Bing has an API called Index Now, where you can submit uh URLs. And you'll see there's a URL submission here. Uh we can manually submit URLs, but if you have coding tools or SEO tools that can talk to it, um, it will Bing will actually take uh data from your website in a programmatic way uh and and update its index.

So on the Trust Insights website, we use a plugin in WordPress called Rank Math, and we have it configured that every time you hit the publish button, it proactively notifies Bing, hey, new page is up to come take a look. Um, and that is uh a very, very useful utility. Also, our caching software, Cloudflare, does the exact same thing. It looks every time you clear the cache and reload it, it will send the snapshot of the URLs it knows about to Bing and say, hey, a bunch of new pages, come on over and take a look. Um you can submit, you can submit up to I believe it's 10,000 URLs per day.

Now, obviously, for a site our size, that's kind of silly. Um, you know, we wouldn't need that. But uh if you are saying Amazon, uh you could use that up pretty quickly. So one of the things that Bing does recommend is that you have some kind of internal scheme for which of the you know which of 10,000 URLs make the cut each day. So, you know, for example, so if you are Amazon, uh you might say, okay, well, what are our our best selling products for today?

Let's make sure those are the in the top 10,000. That way uh they get they get indexed and crawled. That's the basic performance section. Now, this is where stuff gets fun. Bing offers SEO tools, uh, right uh built right inside for it.

Um obviously Google does not. Um easy things like backlinks, where are you getting links to uh your site, uh what pages are those links coming from? Uh was the anchor text on this, so you can see lots and lots of uh where links are coming from. I think I've still win uh for links to the Trust Insights website. Um 6,500 links.

Uh then you can see things like podcast players, press releases, libsin, which is where our podcast is hosted, uh spin sucks, talk walker. So lots and lots of stuff. And of course, you know, one of the things to to always do with these uh things is if you see something in here that you don't recognize, uh you should probably uh click on it and then see if there's an opportunity uh to do some uh additional link building. Just eyeballing it. The nice thing is that it looks similar to uh the Google Search Console data, at least for you know what backlinks we're getting.

So that's good news. Exactly. Um keyword research, uh it's one of those tools where uh Bing can start to suggest things for your website, but you can also do uh let's do marketing analytics here, and it'll help you with some basic keyword data. So if you don't pay for an SEO tool, this is not bad. Now, these are Bing's results, they're not Google's results and stuff.

And and we do know the two indexes are very different uh in the composition, but it's not bad. You know, it's it's not the worst thing, it's another worst tool in the world, and for the low cost of zero, it's hard to complain about. So for coming up with ideas, uh, you can put uh keywords in it'll show you the the rankings for that term again. Pretty handy little tool. Nice.

Let's go to SEO reports so. So this is essentially this is similar to um the page experience panel in in Google Search Console. This just tells you, hey, there's a bunch of issues on your website. Here's what they are. Um, multiple H1 tags, which that it's interesting.

Bing uh flags that as a high severity issue. Uh, whereas Google does not really look at that. Google says, I'll use that to understand the structure of your page, but that's about it. What our challenge here is if we would have to go back to our web design and say we need you to completely redo our theme because that's right, which we're not about to do. Yeah, we're not about to fix that.

Um but the description being too long or too or too short is something that I've been working on because that is the snippet that is shown as the preview for the page. So if you Google, you know, what is trust insights, you should get a result that says, you know, trust insights, and then a little description like trust insights as a marketing and management consulting, blah, blah, blah. And it should be enough information for you to be able to read and understand what we do, so that theoretically you're like, oh, yes, that is exactly what I'm looking for. Let me click on this link. Exactly.

One other thing that's interesting is that Bing does use the meta keywords field, whereas Google has you know ignored that for like a decade now. Um, they don't use it necessarily as a ranking factor, but they do use it to determine page relevance. So the project that you've been doing of of making sure that you know that each page has an anchor keyword actually does still matter for Bing. Um, so it's that is not a uh a waste of time. Good to know.

Yeah, and then just site scan stuff again. Uh does bit you know, is Bing picking up what it's supposed to be picking up. So that's what's in the SEO section. The configuration section, this is crawl control. This is where you can say, hey, this is when I want you to stop by my site, and this is when I want you to give me a break.

So I have it set you know for Eastern time. Um, and then when do we get most of our traffic? Eastern time, you know, 9 a.m. to 5 p.m. Uh now you could manually set this as well.

If you were busy, if you were a European company, you would want to switch this, and maybe if you're a European company that also does business on the East Coast, you might have you know peaks and valleys uh for different times. But what this does is then during uh business hours, Bing will hit your site less, right? So it will, you know, the crawler will not come as frequently. If you're a publisher, like Digiday or the you know a vice or whatever, you might want to have this set all the time, like you know, come by swing by as much as possible because you're publishing around the clock. So you might want to time this your publishing frequency as well.

We might want to say maybe um stop by it's okay to stop by between 8 and 11 a.m. every day because that's when new blog posts and and and stuff go up on our site. Now, I remember this is going back, you know, a good 10 or more years ago. Um there was you know an odds unsubstantiated rumor that your site being crawled by an SEO tool slows it down. I'm assuming that that is not true.

Well, it's like any other visitor to your website, you know, you every visitor does enact a performance penalty of some kind. Uh it's just you know, not necessarily a lot. If you're using modern a modern Martex stack, it should be a non issue because a service like Akamai or Cloudflare or something would be able to serve up to those bots what they need without any everyone else taking a performance hit. 15 years ago, yeah, if the web server is under some guy's desk at your office, then definitely the crawler's gonna exact a penalty on it and you're gonna hear the you know the hard drive thrashing uh under the desk. But these days, with everything being in the cloud, if you're on a any kind of decent web host and you've you set up a CDN, it's a non-issue.

Now, if you have not set up a CDN, you probably should. All right, John. So it sounds like Chris is describing the hard drive under your desk that houses 15 years of marketing over coffee episodes. You just turning away. I have had the entire CRM system shut off when the secretary who had the computer under her desk, you know, turn it off at the end of the day.

So yeah, that that used to happen. Thank God for the cloud. Exactly. Yeah, no, we actually did a revision of marketing or coffee uh earlier this year. We moved it onto Cloudflare, put it on the CDN and then all that stuff.

So uh it it finally got some love. Well, that's good. Exactly. Um, of course, you can uh tell Bing, hey, don't crawl these URLs uh as well so that you know there are specific pages that you don't want that are all that are not in your robots.txt file, you can block them here. The best practice though is put them in your robots.txt file, and that way everybody knows don't crawl those pages.

And just as a refresher, Chris, what is a robots.txt file? I'm glad you asked. Uh a robot.txt file is a configuration file that lives on your website that tells search engines either to look at a place or don't look at a place, or for certain uh robots to tell them to buzz off, right? So here you can see the the trust insights one. We're saying any kind of browser, come on in, it's fine, right?

Whereas if we wanted to specifically say exclude Googlebot, we could. Uh if you were if you had some, for example, if you had a section of your website, uh, maybe you're a healthcare provider, and there's a section of your website where patients could log in, you would say, Hey, I want to deny all search crawlers. I don't want you to come even try, don't even knock on the door. We don't want you here. Um, because you know, behind that is is a whole bunch of PHI.

You would hope there'd be additional access controls, but this is that would be yet another layer where they'll say you have to get out. In our case, we're like, that's fine, come on in. Uh, and then we have you can either have allow or disallow statements. So in this case, we're saying, hey, search engines, don't crawl our thank you pages. We, you know, yes, we have them, but we don't want you to crawl them.

We don't want you to index them because that kind of defeats the point of having a registration page if someone can find it right in search. Um, and other things like our Matomo instance, which is our open source uh Google Analytics alternative. Uh, we're telling the search engines don't bother crawling that either. It's there's nothing useful there. Um, you can also, if you've got a whole bunch of uh unusual IP addresses in your web hosting logs, you can see if it if it all that crawling was Bing or not.

You just type in the IP address and it will tell you yes, that was us or no, that was not us. Um you also can see if um Bing had if someone has filed a takedown notice uh for content on your site, uh, to Bing. Yeah, uh you can see what that is in approve or disapprove it here. This is the same as like if you've posted a video on YouTube and YouTube flags it as a copyright issue. Uh, this would be kind of handling those disputes.

By the way, uh to the independent musicians who have just used Garage Band music, uh, you are competing with us at our videos too, because we're using Garage Band stock music also. So we we get copyright disputes every week with so what I was not aware of that. Oh, yeah, I get a notices uh after every show, like saying, hey, it looks like you're using copyrighted music. Like, nope, and just after file a dispute and every week, you know, 20 minutes later, like, okay, it's fine. You're you're all using the exact same snippets.

Maybe someday we'll hire an independent musician to make our own theme music. Someday. Um, of course, you have your user management and Microsoft Clarity, which um, if you're not familiar with, I believe we did a show on that last year. Clarity is uh Microsoft's alternative, free alternative to hot jar and crazy egg and all those UI testing tools. And it was was made part of Bing last year.

Uh, but it is also what it's I I thought put that in a essentials tool. Like it's there's no reason not to use it. Um, it's a terrific tool uh and does some really good stuff. So that's sort of the walkthrough of what's in Bing. Now we could probably spend, you know, uh a whole bunch of time.

I mean, like that we spent like three hours talking about this for the Google Search Console course. We could spend about that same amount of time on Bing. But what I do want to highlight is when you look at the results between Bing and Google, they are different. And as Katie said, you can see this in the Trust Insights newsletter from this week. We can talk a bit about them here.

When I search for, when I sort this the spreadsheet by clicks from Google Search Console, these are sort of the list of terms. And what's interesting is that every term that's in the Google column is also in the Bing column. We may not get be getting clicks from Bing on them, but Bing does know about them. If I do the reverse and I search for Bing clicks, look at how many blank spots there are in Google, right? For now, some of these are things like you know, uh specific to fresh content.

So what's interesting is it Bing seems to report back fresher content. So we put up our our um LGBTQ hate crimes data uh blog post this year. We put it up uh just before Pride Month every year. Google has no knowledge of those search terms when it comes to our site. So we're not showing up in Google Foot, uh, but we are, and we're actually getting clicks for it in Bing.

Again, that's that's really really fresh content. It goes to what the are is in Bing's webmaster guidelines. They like fresh content, they like uh new stuff. But there's also other stuff in here that isn't in Google that we would perhaps like to be like issues with predictive analytics, right? Maybe not pumpkin spice latte demographics, although I yeah, I it it's I'm gonna do that next month.

Um but your your newsletter opened on the unaware audience, right? That is showing up in Bing. It actually got a click out of Bing. Uh the 12 days of data uh stuff. There's a whole so like I said, there's a whole bunch of stuff that Bing is sending us traffic for that you know, here uh trust insight AI, YouTube for B2B, um, trust insights podcast, and you know that's someone looking for us very specifically on Bing.

Um, and so there's a lot of stuff in here that that isn't showing up in Google. So either people don't type those queries into Google or we just don't rank for them. Because of the the type of site Bing is, it again, it has a different audience, different searches and stuff like that. And so there may be opportunities for us to get traffic from Bing that we may not be competitive for on Google. So if we if we can't get it out of Google, maybe we can get out of Bing because a click is a click.

Someone who wants to learn about trust insights, come on over, we'll take you any way we can get you. So now what's interesting is with Google Search Console, you can tie it together with Google Analytics. So you can at least get some high-level demographic data, interest, uh things that they're interested in, close affinity audiences, that kind of stuff. You can't necessarily get that with Bing. Is that correct?

Because then I mean it would almost make it too easy to be like, oh, this is what my audience looks like on Bing. This is what my audience looks like on Google. Yeah, there's there, to my knowledge, I don't believe there is demographic data available about your website. You can get technographic data. So for example, here's Microsoft Clarity, right?

Um, and in clarity, I can look and see like what kinds of browsers, uh, what kinds of devices, uh, what kinds of operating systems we're getting. That's interesting. Mac OS being substantially higher, Windows. Um, but I can't get like ages or gender or anything like that. It's just that data is just not available.

And you can't get interests. That's correct, can't get interest either. Because those would be the things that I would be most interested in personally, of you know, what kinds of topics are people interested in that are coming to our site that you can get from Google Analytics uh at a high level. So you could say, and I think we did an episode on this, you could say like a lot of our audience is interested in cooking shows. So we should be writing about you know, tying it together how our data recipes are like cooking shows, you know, so sort of like bring the two ideas together kind of a thing.

Yeah, we that that's not available here at all. Um, I would say we still have to stick with Google on that. Um, the other option would be uh if is to sort of an x-ray, you know, a publicly available audience, something like um maybe Twitter, like our Twitter followers thinks would be one potential avenue for for doing that, which we did a show on that already. Um another option would be potentially, I'm trying to think if you could do some other social media data. You could also do uh mailing list um enrichment, so you can get some additional data if you were to upload the Trust Insights newsletter list uh to an appending service and get some still some data that way.

That still is more technographic and phramographic than it is individual. Um, but that would be an additional way to get some of that information. It looks like services like Statista offer high-level uh audience overviews of the types of people who use Bing as a search engine. Like the thing that came up first was like majority of users of Bing are over the age of 35. So you know that's helpful to know.

I don't know what I'll do with that, but still helpful. Well, it's one of those things that if you have a buyer in that segment, um, that would be a helpful thing to know if you're reaching more of that audience. You know, if if we're looking to do business with CMOs, statistically, CMOs tend to be over older rather than younger uh staff. Not always, but um that that is the general trend. So it wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing to know about.

The other thing that I think is a uh useful, and we talked about this in the newsletter, is that Bing has a much greater efficiency ratio. So when I just do a quick sum on this column, there's 408 clicks um to our website from from Google, 179 from Bing. So that's that's a uh two to one difference. But then there are 325,000 impressions from Google and only 8,000 for Bing. So Bing had sends um fewer impressions, but the clicks to impressions ratio is much much higher on Bing, which means that essentially when we show up in a Bing search, we're much more likely to get the click than when we show up in a Google search.

Um, so it is a more efficient uh search engine for getting us traffic. So if we wanted to spend some time uh maybe optimizing, you know, taking a look something like issues with predictive analytics. You know, right now we have that disadvantages of predictive analytics post. Maybe we need to write up an issues of predictive analytics blog post. There is it's the it's the complimentary to disadvantages.

Issues is the original post from 2018. Disadvantages, I believe is the complimentary that I wrote earlier this year. Okay, then we should freshen that one up because again, we know Bing likes fresh content, so it's probably time to put that one on the content treadmill. Um but yeah, going through the keyword list quickly and just saying, okay, what's in here and what things should be freshen up? The same is true with pages too.

So if I search here in largest smallest on Google, um we see a whole bunch of stuff that you know that matches up with Bing pretty well. But then if I search for the same thing on Bing, there's actually a couple of blind spots. Like the LGBTQIA uh post here, that's missing from Google's index. Uh the Instagram outage post is missing from Google's index entirely. Um so anywhere we see an NA, assuming it's not something that you know we don't want shared, um, how to research efficiently, that's an old so what episode.

These are things that we need to go into Google Search Console and say, hey, what gives? Like you should you should have this page. You don't, even if it's not sending any traffic, you should still have knowledge of this page. So it may indicate so we put that in manually. Yeah, we put that in manually.

Um if the opposite were true, let's go ahead and just do a search here. Um let's scroll down, see if we've got any. No, actually, I don't see any entries in the Bing list that are missing. That's kind of a curious. Um if there were, we could submit them obviously to Bing, but it's kind of curious that there aren't any missing.

It's coverage of our site is actually better. Interesting. So I guess this this comes down to so we know, especially right now, marketers are stretched super thin. Like we're all doing a million jobs, wearing a million hats, you know, we're trying to sell things, we're trying to, you know, take care of our clients, your marketing, all that sort of good stuff. So, you know, what's the so what?

Because it sounds like, you know, if I take a step back, you've just added one more thing to my plate that I have to look at. So, you know, how do I make this most efficient for me as the person who has to do something with this information? Where do I look? What do I pay attention to? It depends on how much is wrong, right?

So the the bare bones minimum is in any of these tools, if there are things that are glaringly wrong, things that are throwing errors and they're fixable errors, fix them, right? That's the that is sort of the table minimum. If you don't do that, um, I'd say you're missing out. Um, so first order business, anything that Bing says, hey, this doesn't look right, and it's fixable, fix it. Like in our case, the multiple H1s, we're not going to fix that, we're just gonna accept that that's the reality.

Um second thing is it doesn't have to be every day or every week or whatever, but going through and looking at the the results, the differences between keywords and pages in in one search engine than the other, maybe you do this quarterly. Uh, and you look through it and you say, Okay, are we missing things in one or the other that are of value? Uh, and if we are, do we need to create, do we need to look at pages that mention those things and tune them up? Uh, refresh them, like we at the issues of predictive analytics that's in 2018. That needs a revamp.

Uh, I I can guarantee. I mean, if it was written last week, technically it probably needs a revamp, but it definitely needs a revamp if it's over a year old. Uh, anything about machine learning, data science, AI needs a second set of eyes and maybe a fresh coat of paint. Um, and that would go into your content calendar. Um, because we know that those pages are already getting traffic.

We know that uh in some cases they're old, and they need uh they need some tuning up. And because it's it's less work to tune something up than it is to create something net new. If I go in here and I look at these these numbers, like that 2018 post, this and 2019 posts in here, we need to change the we need to to go and tune those up. Um we talk about summer slowdown, that's you know, or the the winter slowdown. If you're in B2B, you know, after thank after Thanksgiving, your year's pretty much done, uh except for all the sales guys trying to close the year ideals.

But short of that, um, that's the time to take this list of of pages and say, yeah, let's let's brush up what needs to be brushed up. Let's get rid of stuff that um you know if you've got pages in here that are getting zero impressions, zero clicks, yeah, it's time to retire them. So would you remove pages from your site or archive them? Archive and redirect them. Archive and interesting.

If if they're just getting it zeros across the board, that's the important part. Is if they're still delivering, you know, traffic and impressions and stuff like that, that's fine. But if I search uh goes all the way to the bottom here, you know, and you guys got some stuff that is just on the zeros page, like this, you know, uh Maycon talk from MakeCon 20, I'm gonna say that was the 2019 Makeon. Um, it's probably time to retire that one and then redirect that um to someplace else. Other pages, like this one here, this is a new one.

How to know if AI will take your job. It's just not really charting right now. Um, that might be one to to put in the newsletter again, or or as we know from Bing and it's it's social stuff, maybe we share it on social and see if we can get any uh jump out of it. But there's based on what we know about uh how Bing works, it might be an opportunity to get some of these pages noticed again. All right, John, your list just got pretty long.

I hope you ready to not well, and I was wondering about the H1 tags too. That's kind of weird, but I do like in WordPress, H1 is considered a title, so you'd think there'd be only one, but you know, in some ways it doesn't make sense, like it's just another layout. There's no constriction on H2 through five or whatever. So that's right. Um what's happening is that search engines in general look at H1s, H2s, and they build what's called a document object model tree.

And essentially that is like an outline, like it's an outline of a book or a table of contents. Um an H1 is like the title of the book, right? So you wouldn't have five book titles, right? You have one book title, then you have chapters below that, and then you have sections inside the chapters, and you know, that would be H3s and so on and so forth. When you have five titles on a page, everyone's like, So, what is the title of this book?

Right? It's not you know, issues of predictive analytics, and then you have uh under stuff. That's how crawlers work when they're doing you know when they're crawling your website. They're trying to build that model of what the page is about based on the logical order. And so um what you'd want to do ideally is have that one h1.

This is the title of this page, and the h2 is your your big subheads and the h3 h4h five and so on and so forth. Um if you do that in, like, for example, mark the markdown language, you know, some uh parsers will not even let you have more than one title tag. Like, like no, you you have to have a logical structure to this document. Um fixing that, it depends on how uh on what's going on with your theme, right? Um, a lot of designers will just set different uh classes for like H1s and H2s to make them look a certain way on the site, not realizing that that messes up how crawlers work.

So you basically just reinforce why teams should not work in silos, but really there should be more of a collaboration, regardless of the fact that it's the creative team versus the data team. Guess what? They still need to work together. So thank you, Chris, for reiterating that point. Exactly.

And you know, when we look at our website, it's it's our fault for not highlighting when we were commissioned our website design to say, hey, you're only allowed to have one H1 tag on a page. You know, I don't care what you do with the style sheets, but it structurally has to look like this because again, that's good information design. Your architecture should be different than your appearance, right? So function and form um should be separate from each other so that you don't screw up the architecture trying to make it look a certain way. Well, in a lot of companies, they do have an information architect versus a designer.

Um, we just happen to be a very small company who could not afford both. Exactly. That's where I'm at. Oh no, I like it. It's okay.

Yeah, it's it's totally fine. But like I I'm even looking at like my own personal site. I was looking at uh yesterday when I was trying to fix a broken plugin, and I'm like, wow, the theme that I'm using, I think it's probably time to move on. Noticing you know, more and more issues. Um, one experiment that I'm running in the background is looking at how accessibility, uh ADA compliance, um, how our sites look that you know, uh, Trust Insights has like 35 violations of accessibility.

My site's got like 300. Like the theme I'm using is so bad for accessibility, like, okay, it's it's time for this theme to go. Um, we'll uh if you're curious, by the way, I'll we'll post the results probably for sure. Certainly, we'll post them in the analytics for marketer Slack group if you want to see the results of whether uh accessibility has any uh correlation to uh search outcomes, but it should make your stuff accessible no matter what, because it's just a general best practice. But we'll maybe that'll be in next week's newsletter, too.

I was gonna say that sounds like a feature live stream, so stay tuned for that. So that's it. That's that is the the reason for Bing. It's one of those things that you know, extra traffic, and it might be more qualified traffic or certainly more efficient traffic. It doesn't cost you anything to sign up for Webmaster Tools, it doesn't cost you anything for Microsoft Clarity, it doesn't cost you anything except time to learn the interface.

And there could be some goodies in there that frankly Google isn't surfacing. One of the things that we talked about, I want to say it was on a previous podcast episode, was Google's eating more and more and more clicks. They're they're with the one box and with all this and snippets and featured text and stuff, they're getting better and better at returning useful information to the searcher that doesn't send them to your site. And yet the clicks number is so low because someone could be searching for Katie Robert at Trust Insights, right? And it'll display your bio from our site without sending the person to our site.

So we have no idea, we don't get the traffic, we don't know what the impact of that is. Whereas Bing will still probably just send them straight to our website. So if you're trying to measure search, make sure that you're taking Bing into account as well. All right, John, what are you gonna do tomorrow? Get my Bing on.

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