--- title: "You Ask, I Answer: Email Marketing List Cleaning Frequency?" author: "" date: 2020-11-10 url: https://www.christopherspenn.com/2020/11/you-ask-i-answer-email-marketing-list-cleaning-frequency-2/ categories: - "B2B" - "Email Marketing" - "Marketing" - "Marketing automation" - "Strategy" - "Videos" tags: - "youtube" --- # You Ask, I Answer: Email Marketing List Cleaning Frequency? ## Summary In today's episode, I walk through how often you should be cleaning your email marketing lists and the four critical points where cleaning should happen. Here's what this means for you. Cleaning your list frequently keeps it healthy, cuts down on complaints and invalid sends, and protects you from spam traps during these volatile economic times. You'll also learn these concepts: the four checkpoints for list cleaning from form submission to 30-day inactivity reviews, why being flexible about personal email addresses matters more than ever with high turnover, and how to evaluate verification services by testing their accuracy. [embed]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhmN4uSQJPQ[/embed] ## Key Takeaways - You'll learn the four essential checkpoints for cleaning your email list, including at form submission, upload, after every send, and after 30 days of inactivity - You'll discover why staying flexible with personal email addresses like Gmail matters during periods of high turnover, especially in B2B marketing - You'll see how to test email verification vendors by polluting a sample list with known bad addresses and measuring their accuracy ## Full Transcript In today's episode, Antonia asks, how often should I be cleaning my email marketing lists? Good question. Um given the volatile nature of the economy and the employment situation, regardless of where you are on the planet, um, cleaning your list is getting more and more and more important, and cleaning it frequently because stuff's going bad all the time. So uh why? I mean, take a look at this chart. This is the Bureau of Labor Statistics from the United States of America. Uh total unemployed plus uh everybody who's being underutilized. And uh at the peak of whatever we want to call this pandemic, uh 22% of the workforce, right? We are still seeing uh large numbers of layoffs every week. Uh no longer a million a week, but still very, very substantial. And what we're seeing now as the pandemic drags on is you're starting to see this in B2B marketing as well, because obviously if it's B2C marketing uh supply chain is disrupted, uh that ripples upstream. So cleaning your list is super important because stuff's going bad all the time, but much faster this year than in previous years. There's four points really where email addresses uh degrade uh for one reason or another. Uh the first point of cleaning uh should be on submission with the form. So the moment somebody fills out a form and submits it, uh that list should go through verification. That email should go through verification to check that it's valid, right? Somebody need to just put like test at test.com in there. Um so that's point number one. Uh and there are plenty of services that will do that, you know, integrate with uh various providers and forms and can validate the email at the point of submission. So that's that's number one. That's important if you don't have any other validation mechanisms because you don't want junk going into your list if you can avoid it. Uh the second point of cleaning is depending on your marketing automation system or or your email marketing software, um, is at point of upload. So if you have a system, uh I use, for example, Mautic, and that uh requires manual upload for some stuff. Um, and at that point, that's when you should be doing some cleaning. Um so I clean through uh million verifier on upload every week when I move data from you know my website to my marketing automation system. Could I automate that? Um yes, but then I would have an issue where uh I'm not sure 100% of the addresses going in are clean, so I want to make sure that um they are. Uh the third point is um after every send, you need to be taking a very careful look at the bounces. A lot of email marketing systems, uh software will try to manage bounces for you because it's kind of a pain. You know, it is it is definitely not uh fun scraping through error logs and things. But what I find is that there are some systems which interpret the different error codes that you get from email marketing, and uh they don't interpret them the same way I would. Uh I they classify a soft versus a hard bounce differently. Um some are overzealous and unsubscribe people that frankly shouldn't be unsubscribed. Like if you get a soft bounce message like you know, user mailbox is fuller over quota, that to me is not an unsubscribe, uh, not immediately. So that's the third point is uh going in and digging around in your email marketing system and your error logs and seeing exactly what has happened. You should be doing this anyway. Um if you depending on your email marketing software uh and the service provider you're using, you may get raw server logs, you may get uh notifications. I use Amazon SES and it gives me bounce reports for every single message I send. Um I obviously don't need to read the ones that succeeded, uh those just go straight in the trash. Um and then the ones that did not succeed, what were they? Were they a complaint, meaning somebody hit the report a spam button? Um those go immediately into the unsubscribe bucket. Uh were they a hard bounce? What kind? What was the code? Was it a temporary failure or a permanent failure for a hard bounce? Um was it a soft bounce, like mailbox full? Uh and again, was it temporary or permanent? Um so that's those are sort of the things I need to dig through every time I send my newsletter so that I'm not sending to people A who don't want it, uh, and B, I'm not sending the addresses that are not working based on my understanding of the vis different error codes. And then finally, the fourth uh cleaning schedule should be cleaning uh and verifying every address in your database that has not been opened or clicked in 30 days, right? If there's no activity on an account for 30 days, run it through a cleaner, make sure that it's it's still valid. Um because again, we don't know how quickly our databases are going bad. I do know that my own mailing list in 2020 has turned over about 40%. Right? So 40% of the addresses that were uh at the there in January 1 are not there anymore. The list is larger now, so I've managed to thankfully with folks like you uh be able to uh keep my my overall list size good, but it there's been a tremendous amount of trending, and one of the things I see people do really wrong in email marketing, particularly B2B, is they say you must use your work address, right? You must use you know, CS Pen at Trust Inside stuff. Yeah, you can't use your Gmail address. Well, surprise, uh this year with as much turnovers we're having in companies, that Gmail address or hot mail address or whatever may be the only way you have to stay in touch with that person. So if you are overly strict on that policy, I would counsel being a little more flexible, right, right now. Uh because if that person is valuable as a human being, um give them any way they want to subscribe, let them stay subscribed, all right? Because you don't know that you know uh manager from that big corporation uh that you're you're trying to woo may be unemployed for a little while and then may become director of marketing at a mid-sized business. And instead of being somebody who is you know low down on the totem pole, they may have suddenly have signing authority. But if you disqualified them from subscribing to your stuff because they didn't put in the they because they put in the Gmail address, you've lost that opportunity. Um there is no harm in keep letting people communicate with you in the way that they want. Um so keep that in mind. So those are the four phases of cleaning on support submission, on upload to the system, on every send, and then anything that is older than 30 days with no activity. Um doing your cleaning frequently will keep your list in good shape. It will reduce complaints, it will reduce uh invalid sends, it will set off fewer spam traps. Um really, really important to keep your lists as clean as you possibly can. Uh in terms of services, there's so many to choose from. Um I use one called million verifier. I think it's I mean, it's great. The the pricing is good. Um there are others, zero bounce, never bounce, um uh Melissa data, and there's you know, take a look around, uh, do your comparisons on pricing and accuracy, um, and you know, see. If you want to test a vendor, give them a list of addresses and pollute it with 30% bad addresses, stuff that you know is bad but doesn't look obviously bad, and see which vendor comes back with the best results, right? Here's your hundred uh email sample and see what percentage comes back. And if they flag all the bad ones and they and they identify most of the good ones, great. You can measure their accuracy and see how they do. If you got follow-up questions on this topic, which is a super fun topic, uh I love email marketing, I did it for years uh professionally. 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