--- title: "So What? Best Time To Post Using Your Own Data" author: "" date: 2020-11-13 url: https://www.christopherspenn.com/2020/11/so-what-best-time-to-post-using-your-own-data/ categories: - "analytics" - "Dashboards" - "Google Analytics" - "Google Data Studio" - "Social media" - "Videos" tags: - "youtube" --- # So What? Best Time To Post Using Your Own Data ## Summary In today's episode, I walk through how to find the best time to post on social media by analyzing your own audience data using Google Data Studio and Google Analytics. Here's what this means for you. You'll gain a repeatable method for replacing guesswork with evidence-based posting schedules tailored to your specific audience rather than relying on generic industry benchmarks. You'll also learn these concepts: why a randomized 30-day posting schedule is essential to generate unbiased data, how pivot tables with heat maps reveal peak engagement hours by day of week, and why traffic and goal completions point to different optimal posting times depending on where people sit in the customer journey. [embed]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TX0ud9miDWE[/embed] ## Key Takeaways - You'll discover why posting around the clock with randomized content for 30 days is critical for generating the valid data you need before running any analysis - You'll learn how to build heat map dashboards in Google Data Studio that reveal peak engagement by hour and day of week for each social channel - You'll explore why traffic metrics and goal completions suggest different optimal posting times based on the customer journey stage your audience is in - You'll see how interaction filters let you drill down into specific time slots and uncover the most valuable content moments for your strategy - You'll find out why designing separate dashboards for different roles and departments makes decisions faster than building one universal report ## Full Transcript Well, hi everyone, happy Thursday. Welcome to So What, the Marketing Analytics and Insights live show from Trust Insights. Uh, you can see Chris is back with us again this week, so therefore the transitions will be much smoother than they were when it was just myself and John. Um, so this week, uh, we are talking about how to figure out the best time to post on social media using your own data. So this is actually a question that we get quite a bit, and we see it quite a lot because um there's this perhaps a misunderstanding that there's this like magical formula for when you should be posting on social media. And really, what it comes down to is it depends on what your audience looks like. And so what we're gonna go through today is an exercise using your own data to create a dashboard in Go in Google Data Studio that shows you here is when your audience is most engaged on any given social media channel. Therefore, that will be your strategy for posting on social media. So Chris, take it away. Before we dig into building the analysis, we have to start with an important clarification. And the clarification is this. If you don't have a valid pool of data to test from, you're not going to get a correct answer. What I mean by that is this. Let's switch over here. This is our social scheduling software, Agora Pulse. Now, if I only posted on Tuesdays at noon, then any analysis I do is always going to show the best time to post is Tuesdays at noon. That's kind of uh it seems like that should be an obvious thing, but for a lot of people who just kind of jump into data and hope it works out, that's what happens. They do that wrong. So what you want to do before you do this analysis is you want to have a testing schedule. We set one up here that is every four hours on the dot, uh, some sort of social media content. We have queued up content um that is randomized and pushed out. So it's not the same content in every type uh time slot. We used to recommend, you know, for example, make one like the four o'clock slot, your promotional slot. We don't do that anymore. Now we say randomize everything and make sure that you are posting all uh you know around the clock. 30 days is what our recommendations take 30 days to just how create a ton of content. And if you missed it, go back to our YouTube channel and you can see our show on content curation. So as to where you could get enough content to be able to be posting that much around the clock. So that's our first caveat is we need to be able to understand um that we have good data to do the analysis from. So the tool that we're gonna use to do this is one that should be very familiar to folks, particularly after last week's show is Google Data Studio. And what we're gonna do is we're going to start pulling out uh data from our Google Analytics account and doing that hourly analysis. So let's start by uh attaching our data source. And I don't know which one this is, so I'm just gonna remove it. Let's add in Google Analytics. And let's do Trust Insights. We will do our standard Google Analytics property for now. And so, Chris, to hearken back to what John and I covered in last week's show, um, we always encourage people to have a plan before just building any kind of a dashboard. And in this instance, you already know what you're after. You want to see that hourly data. So we sort of we did that planning ahead of time that we're not doing on this show, but it reiterates the need to have a goal in mind as you're building any sort of report or dashboard. That's absolutely correct. So one of the first things we're going to want to do, let's go ahead and this is the sample they gave us. This isn't super helpful. Um I'm going to go ahead and pull in a scorecard. And with our social channels, one of the things that we're going to want to do is we're going to want to look at a specific social channel. Now, here's there's a bit of a gotcha with Google Data Studio in that your segments are what control that in Google Analytics. So even though you're working in Data Studio, you'll have to set that up in Google Analytics so that you have segments for each social channel that you want to pay attention to. Or you can do it by source medium. But we're going to uh assume in this case, I'm going to go to my segments here and pull out. Uh let's do Twitter. I've got a Twitter segment already in Google Analytics. I'm going to apply it to this widget here. So now this is only new users, and I don't want it to be new users, I want it to be all my users. Like so. So I have 74 users from Twitter. I personally like to have a little bit of comparison date periods just as a uh nice to have on my Data Studio dashboards. Next, we're gonna copy and paste that. And we're gonna change this from a scorecard to a line graph. Again, just to be able to see for the purposes of this uh show. Is Twitter doing anything for us? Are we getting any any love from it whatsoever? So we've got that here. Oh let's snap this to grid, that's gonna drive me crazy. Okay, and always a best practice, slap on that date control. Make sure that you've got your ability to see dates. So this is the initial part. We can see just, you know, is there traffic from Twitter at all? Yes, good. Um that's a good starting point. If this was a flat line, then the exercise would be over because we're not getting any uh traffic from Twitter, and there's absolutely no need to continue. Our next step, I'm gonna take this widget here. I'm gonna copy it, I'm gonna paste it. The reason I keep copying and pasting the widget is because I've already added the segment to it. Why redo the same work over and over again if you've already got one unit that you can uh repurpose? And I'm gonna change the data type here. I'm gonna change the data type from scorecard to a pivot table with heat map. Uh, this is a very, very fun, powerful tool. Let's make this a little bit bigger. By a little bit bigger, I mean a lot bigger. And now what we're gonna do is we want you can already see that it's got some uh uh sort of a table built out, but what we want to do is focus on time. Right. So let's look at hour. I'm gonna do the hours gonna be our let's do columns. Okay. And oops. Should be rows. Sorry. So there's our hour in rows. And we're gonna want to uh clean that up a little bit because that's it does not make any sense. So it's make it ascending. And now for our column dimension, we want it to be day of week. And now what we've done, let's go into view mode here, is we've made ourselves a lovely out of order. Oh, day of week is not sorted correctly. Row is day of week in ascending order. There we go. Now we have created a essentially a nice little heat map table of the best times for our Twitter account by the traffic that we get from Google Analytics. And that's the important part is this is by traffic. So this is not the audience overall. This is not what Twitter's impressions are. This is people who have made it to our website from our tweets. This is kind of hot. And then even though we're posting around the clock, you can see there's really not a whole lot happening down here. Now that tells us from a location perspective, we probably don't have a ton of audience in those time zones, but it's not zero, right? So there's there's still people Friday at 9 p.m. who are paying attention. You know, uh, there's still somebody Wednesday at 12 a.m. There's somebody whoever this person is on Wednesday, they're you know, they're they're up late. Um or they're in like South Australia. Yeah, exactly, or Australia, places like that. So what we've done is we've created a very nice way just to very quickly browse this and go, huh? Okay, these are the times when it makes sense to uh be active on Twitter. Now, if you want to dig into this a bit more, we can have some more fun with this particular day. Let's go back in and edit it. I'm gonna add a page here. So while you're doing that, Chris, I just want to sort of call out a couple of things uh that John and I had covered last week in terms of best practices. Uh, for people who are managing multiple data sources and multiple reports, just as a friendly reminder that as you are bringing in a new data source, we brought in the Trust I Trust Insights Google Analytics. You always want to make sure that you are naming your data source with something that makes sense. Because what ends up happening is as you add on more data sources, they all tend to have the same default name, and then you don't know which one you're working with, especially if you're working with multiple clients. And then the other thing is to make sure that you are titling your report itself, because if you don't and you click out of it, then you just have a long list of untitled reports. That's right. Just as a friendly reminder. Because that's something that I do is I'll start something and then I'll get distracted and go on to something else. And if I don't name it, then I'll forget what the heck it was or where to find it. We just had a client who was talking about this where he puts his name in all the data sources. So he knows, like, okay, this is one that has something to do with me. It's not some cruft from five years ago. That's definitely one way to do it. It works. Okay. Let's switch over to our second page here because we want to have some more fun with this information. Uh I'm going to take this exact same thing, this this Twitter segment here, and I'm gonna go in and choose this time just a table with a heat map. Uh you know what? I think I actually kind of want to do table with bar charts. It's more fun for me. Um let's talk about what's fun. Let's do day of week as our first mention here, and then hour as our second dimension here. We have our users, it should still be throttled to Twitter. Let's make this a little bit bigger here so we can see what we're doing. All right. And there's our delta. Uh style-wise, uh, I don't love the fact that you know the uh bar chart it doesn't have any values on it, so let's slap a quick value on it so we can see what we're doing here. Metric one show numbers. Okay. And then let's fix up our columns to fit the data. Now, this is exactly the same data that we were just looking at in the heat map uh table, only it's it's a little bit more orderly. It's ordered by the number of visits. Here's where Data Studio has some real power to it that is missing from other analysis tools. I'm going to take this, I'm going to turn on interaction filter. What an interaction filter does is it allows you to change a report based on something that's already in the report to change subsequent types of data. So let's do this. Let's take our table here. This time we'll do table with heat map just for fun, because this is what fun is. That is a completely different show. Okay. So we have our page titles and we have our, let's make sure this is users. So as Chris is pulling that up, one of the little nuances that I learned about Data Studio is that if you're looking for users versus returning users, returning users isn't actually a metric that you can a field that you can select, but you can create a returning users uh calculated field yourself by taking users minus new users equals returning users. That's just sort of a side note pro tip. Yep, you can do that. You can also uh filter it by user type as well, uh because it's a dimension. Okay, let's add in our date control up here. Now, here's what an interaction filter does. Right now, we're looking at all of our Twitter data, right? And the pages that all of our Twitter users have been to on our website. Pretty handy, pretty uh useful. If I click on Thursday at 8 a.m., I can now filter down, and the table automatically rearranges itself as to what that specific thing is. So this block of content, uh this time, these were the pages that were popular. If I choose uh Tuesday at noon, um get a different uh look here. These are the pages. Remember, even though there's four users, these are page views. You're gonna see more that the numbers will not add up because they're different scopes. Um I can choose, let's see here. Okay. Um, I can just keep going down taking a look at what are the different pieces of content that are valuable uh that people saw value in. Now, this is a very granular look because what we've done is we've done by day of weekend, hour of day. Um, if you wanted to, uh if you wanted a sort of a more roll up view, uh you could take out the hour, right? And then you could say what was popular on Thursday. And the table, of course, rearranges itself, and this gives you the content that from Twitter on Thursday was was the most popular content. This is really very, very flexible in terms of the kinds of things that you can do to get a look at your data. Now, if you want to kick it up even another notch for fun, um you don't have to live just in Twitter on this. You can do more than just Twitter. For this example, I just decided to start with Twitter, but I'm gonna take out our segment from both tables, and let's move these down ourselves a little bit of breathing room here, and add in control. The control I'm gonna add in here. Source medium. Remember that in Google Analytics 4, which is the next version of Google Analytics, this is your only choice for being able to determine the different channels that are available. Channel groupings have gone away in Google Analytics 4. Now, if I go back in here, let's go ahead and choose our date range. Our date range, let's do last 30 days. Apply that. Now I have everything in here. So now let's look at uh let's see, let's clear everything out here. Let's do t.co. Let's also do Twitter. So these four sources now I've should have almost exactly the same thing, right? But I've now got the Twitter, I've got this a couple other Twitter-based referring sources. You can see our numbers are a little bit different. If I wanted to do just my email newsletter, right? But now we change this around. Now Friday is uh the day that has referred the most uh users. And I can again uh click or tap in to see what content that's the Google Analytics for readiness audit is the most popular piece of content. Which is helpful, but that doesn't tell you when to post on social media, does it? No, because this is my newsletter, this is a totally different channel. I'm just saying that by having this filter here now, you can expand this with from just one channel to many channels. If you wanted to do all social media, um, let's go ahead in here. Go take this source medium, and this is where we can change to the default channel grouping. Big red exclamation point. If your channel groupings are wrong, which they all are out of the box with Google Analytics 3, this does not work. Um, because it will classify things like Facebook as uh referral traffic, which is clearly not the case. So you need to make sure your default channel groupings are correct before you do this. If I want to focus on social media, now this is everything that in my default channel grouping and Google Analytics would be classified as social media. This is now reflecting this. Now I can see uh Thursdays uh we are the are the the day this in the last 30 days. Uh we have Instagram TV being popular, we have the newsletter, we have pumpkin spice, which I'm always happy to see people enjoying pumpkin spice uh use and data. It's a damn shame. Yep. Um, and if we go back to our first page, we can do the exact same thing. So let's go ahead and take out our segments here. So let me ask you this question, Chris. So you're taking out the segments, can and you're adding in that uh drop-down control, which then theoretically you have to pick everything that relates to that particular social channel or all of social. Can you add a drop-down control that includes your segments? That you've got to. You cannot. You would think that you could, because that would be useful. Because what if I only want to filter by my social media channels? This is a this is one of the quirks of Google Analytics 3. Um recall that Google Analytics 3 has four different scopes, right? There's session, there's hit, there's user, and then there is product. Segments exist at either the session or the the hit uh session of the user level scope. Um the channel groupings, believe it or not, are at the hit scope because the hit is attached to the individual uh visit itself. And so you can't slice and dice them in here. You can't make that work because they it just doesn't it's just not compatible. That has been resolved in Google Analytics 4 by getting rid of the channels entirely. Um so you could now, I believe slice and dice because everything now has been consolidated down to the event level. So it's it's a lot cleaner with the complication that in Data Studio it's still not fully implemented. So the answer is no, I can't do what I want to do. It'd be a lot cleaner if it was there, but it's not. Yes. Noted. Exactly. Um so now if we take our default channel grouping and look at all social media. Now let's do our last 30 days here. 298 visitors. And again, look, we're looking like Thursday at 8 a.m. is our time for all social media. So this is any anything, everything. Facebook, LinkedIn, Twitter, Instagram, TikTok, whatever. So with this kind of analysis, you know, you're seeing that there are other spots where people are being drawn to your website. But if you're seeing that one particular block that is the most popular, that's the block that you would want to save for your stuff for big announcements for the most eyeballs versus, you know, when we went through the content curation, we talked through why it's good to share other relevant content. Those little blocks that are the most popular are the ones you want to save for yourself. Yes, exactly. And we haven't even talked about the arguably the most important uh data point, which is not even on here. Uh, and that is instead of users, what if we've looked at goal completions, right? If did somebody actually do anything of value? And so out of 3,400 visits, 242 goal completions. Let's we have if we throttle this down just to social media, 35 goal completions out of social media, right? So that's a pretty small number. Uh and if I were to do the exact same thing to the rest of this uh layout here. Goal completions for this, and goal completions for this. Go to view mode. Go to social media. So now you have a different thing to contemplate. And the different thing to contemplate is Thursday at 8 a.m. is when you're getting traffic. Wednesday at 2 p.m. is when you're getting social media conversions. Right. So the question is, which is the better time to post that? You should be posting it when you're getting eyeballs, or you should be posting when someone's willing to do the thing that they that you want them to do. This is not an easy choice, right? This is one where you probably should set up a testing plan of some kind. Well, and I would say that it depends because you have people who are at different stages of your customer journey. So if you're using the Thursday at 8 a.m., you are introducing people to who you are, bringing them to the website with the goal of getting them to come back and do something. And then the Wednesday at 1, 2 p.m., that's when you're like, hey, you're returning. It's nice to see you again by this widget. Exactly. Um it it's an important thing to take into account. Like this is how different your your customer journey can be. If you look in an actual customer journey report of some kind, um, you'll be able to see, like, oh, there actually are different times of day, or this there's a different uh channel in a different place depending on where they are. Now, in our most recent one here, for our customer journey, Twitter in general shows up very early on in the journey. And it's not a huge surprise then to see that we're getting a lot of traffic and comparatively very few goal completions, right? Um, when we looked at all these numbers from from all social media, we're getting 35 goals, right? Let's go and edit this and change this back to source media. By the way, I don't recommend doing the analysis here. We're actually doing analysis in a reporting tool, which is a bad idea. We're just doing this for example example purposes. You would do all this analysis in Google Analytics and then know what you're going to build in Google Data Studio based on that. But uh because this is just monkeying around, uh, we can go ahead and do these things. The other thing that you can do if you'd like if you still want to do it in here because you might want to reuse it, is we're editing this as it is. Um, you might want to spawn a new page as like your sandbox and just be able to mess around, and then once you have something you like, you copy and paste it. So now if I go into source medium here and go t.co. See 53 users. And oops. There you go. From our Twitter referral traffic. And the other pro tip that we covered last week that's always worth repeating is if you have multiple pages in a report, also take a second to name the pages. So, you know, we were talking about how uh we've built these books that have 30 some odd pages, and to be able to figure out what's on what page, you have to name those pages. Yep, you can name the pages. There is also a way um I typically don't do it because I forget, but you can actually make a table of contents page that can link to all the other pages in your workbook. I just keep forgetting to do that. Well, it would also be how if you had the pages labeled, you could easily make the table of contents because you would know then what is on each page. Either way, label your stuff, name things, name things. So now based on our goal completions from Twitter with our source medium thing, we're down to five Tuesdays at noon, Thursdays at 3 p.m. are from these particular sources for the for our goal completions. Again, we see that there's a lot of traffic in Twitter, very few conversions. We see that in the customer journey analysis because it's uh sort of front of journey thing where the messaging for the most part is gonna be, hey, you should get to know us, not hey, buy a widget now. Um, but to your point, Katie, there's absolutely no harm in testing out the messaging at the times of day when you're already getting conversions to see if the behaviorally something is happening there. So that's sort of the the nuts and bolts of how do we do this thing? How do we do this analysis and create a report that's useful to people? The critical thing with any kind of reporting is you know to what Katie was saying earlier, we've got to be able to make a decision from it, right? Looking at it's great, but the whole reason this entire show is called what it is, or we call the show so what is because you need to have some kind of takeaway, like what is the thing that we're trying to do. Um, if there's no decision to be made, then you don't need the report, right? It's kind of kind of a moot point. Um, but once you know, oh, this is what I'm gonna do next, then the report becomes more valuable. Um see, we got uh no no questions this week. So um either of you got some questions on building fun stuff in Data Studio. No questions, but more of a comment. I, you know, as you were going through it initially and you had that Twitter segment and you built out pages one and two with just Twitter. My first thought was, oh, well, that would be very easy to replicate, just duplicate the page and then just change the segment. So you have your Twitter pages, your Facebook pages, and so on and so forth. If you don't want to go through and have the same thing and sort of like sort everything, it just depends on a matter of preference and how you're going to be using and presenting that data, because what we also showed is that you can export the data, you can screenshot it, you can embed it into another web page. And so it just it depends on, you know, as you're thinking through why am I even creating this thing, it's what is the best way to present this information so that somebody can instantly look at it and go, okay, I know what to do. I don't have to fuss with it too much. Exactly. And that's the one of the challenges is you have to decide what level of interactivity you want. And that comes from those user questions that you ask people before you put together a dashboard. Okay. Who are you? What do you do? And what is the intended outcome that you're going for? Because if you are just you cannot make a dashboard for everybody. Like you can't make one dashboard that that serves the CMO and the intern just as well. This is just an impossibility. You need to have those user journeys mapped out. And our general rule of thumb is there's a dashboard for every vertical like department in your organization, right? Marketing's dashboards should not be finance's dashboards. And then there's a dashboard for every horizontal in your organization. So directors would have a different dashboard than managers, which would have a different dashboard than coordinators. Yes, it's a lot of dashboards, but it makes it easier for people to get exactly what they need to make decisions for their role. What trying to make something that serves, you know, managers and up all the way to the board of directors is just a waste of time. I agree with that. Um, because it's just a different set of metrics. And to your point, Chris, it does sound daunting, but if you plan it out ahead of time, do those user scenarios, and then say, okay, page one is the CEO, page two is the directors, page three is this, then you have a plan and then it's just built. And then people can just look at it, or you can just screenshot it and that do the work up front. And then on the back end, you're just saving all the time, and all you're doing is making decisions and taking actions. Exactly. 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