--- title: "You Ask, I Answer: Tips for B2B Public Relations?" author: "" date: 2020-04-09 url: https://www.christopherspenn.com/2020/04/you-ask-i-answer-tips-for-b2b-public-relations-2/ categories: - "B2B" - "Influencer Marketing" - "Marketing" - "Public Relations" - "Sales" - "Videos" tags: - "youtube" --- # You Ask, I Answer: Tips for B2B Public Relations? ## Summary In today's episode, I walk through ten practical tips for approaching B2B public relations, especially for marketers new to the discipline. Here's what this means for you. You'll reframe PR as a long-term sales job built on relationships, organization, and patient outreach rather than quick wins. You'll also learn these concepts: why treating PR pitches like sales deals with CRM tracking improves close rates, how to spot stories publications actually want versus self-serving press releases, and why building your own audience and community reduces dependence on third-party gatekeepers. [embed]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdBHUTPlRr8[/embed] ## Key Takeaways - You'll learn why PR functions as a sales job and how using a free CRM like HubSpot helps you track pitches like deals - You'll discover how to identify what is genuinely newsworthy by focusing on what drives traffic for the publication you pitch - You'll see why realistic expectations matter since long-lead and short-lead outlets require weeks or months before results show - You'll find out how the ten by ten giving rule builds recognition with reporters through ten days of value-only touches before any ask - You'll explore why making your company a publication of record with a blog, podcast, or YouTube channel removes intermediary delays - You'll understand why B2B trade publications and individual influencers outperform top-tier outlets like the Wall Street Journal for niche reach - You'll learn to measure PR outcomes such as referral traffic, backlinks, mentions, and branded search lift instead of counting activities ## Full Transcript In today's episode, Katie asks, I recently started at a startup, and I'm responsible for all marketing. I've been doing digital marketing for a long time, but one of my weaknesses is PR. I would appreciate any advice on how to approach B2B public relations. Okay, so I spent five plus years at a PR firm and uh picked up a lot of interesting experiences during that time. PR is a sales job. It is actually the worst sales job in the world because uh you are following all the processes of sales, the pitching, the the outreach, the relationship building, but none of the rewards because there's no commissions, right? Instead of selling a product to someone, you are selling a story to an influencer or a publication of some kind. So when you pivot your thinking to realizing it is a sales job, then you treat it like a sales job, right? You build relationships, you focus on on that relationships between you and other people in your industry's vertical, and you give more than you take. So let's look at like 10 tips on this stuff, right? Number one, get organized with a sales CRM. Uh use HubSpot's free CRM, use any of the other free CRMs that are out there. Remember, PR is a sales job, so you need to treat it like sales. Every time you uh pitch a reporter, that's a like a deal, right? You're trying to to win, close the the pitch uh and get them to publish your story, your company's story. So in your CRM, treat it like a deal, right? Your contacts are the your relationships with publications and influencers, and track that stuff so that you don't lose track of things and that you know what closes and what doesn't and who closes and who doesn't. Don't rely on on anecdotes and memory. Treat it like sales. Use software to to make your processes better. Two, get organized with your company. What do you have that is legitimately newsworthy that other people will care about? Remember, publications of any kind, whether it's an individual, a blogger, a newspaper, a magazine, whatever, they want stories that attract eyeballs because they have to pay their bills and they pay their bills with traffic that gets them to sell ads. So, what do you have that will help that company sell ads to its customers? What will you what do you have that is so newsworthy that they will get traffic to their website? No one gives a crap about your press release, your newest product announcement, your executive hire, all the BS that P PR people typically do, poor ones do. People want traffic. They want traffic to sell ads. So, what do you have that is newsworthy enough that will get you that traffic at another publication? Number three, set realistic expectations. PR is not like advertising. In advertising, you swipe the credit card and your ads are running. PR takes a long time. The best PR professionals are those that have a lot of gray hair because they have you know decade-long relationships with specific uh outlets with specific individuals. They can pick up the phone and say, Hey, I've got this thing, I know it's worth your time. Let's talk. At the very least, you also have to know the difference between short and long lead pitches. Long lead pitches are things like magazines where they're planning out one or two quarters in advance, and you can work to get your uh story into in you know that issue six months from now. Short leads are things like you know digital publications where they are looking for stories sooner than that, and you have to set expectations with your company that depending on what your focus is, uh, it may take months to see any results from public relations. Next, do your homework. As part of relationship building, be sure you know who the top ten people are in your industry's vertical and what their angles are. They have a specific point of view or a specific subject matter expertise that they want to focus on. And if you send them a generic pitch, you're gonna get tossed in the trash. Right? You have to send something that is on target for what they want to talk about. So read their stuff, dig in, scan their articles, watch their social feeds, learn what they care about and what gets them results. Use great social media monitoring tools like Talk Walker to identify like this is of uh this is what this influencer or this publication has published, and these are the performance metrics on it. And look at the top ten things that got them traffic, focus on that. Never send a bulk pitch ever. Just don't do it. He you would should never be having setting a pitch to more than one person, ever. Give before you get. Uh our advisor and uh PR professional extraordinaire, Jenny Dietrich has what we call the 10 by 10 rule. Ten days, 10 touches, giving only. So you follow a reporter, you share their stories, you comment to them, you reply, you promote them. Ten days, one touch a day for ten days, never asking for anything. All you want to do is make sure that you are lodged in their brain as a name they recognize so that when you do ask for something later on, you you have that share of mind. And it may not, it may take longer than 10 days, it may take 30 or 50 or 70 days for them to respond to you genuinely and say, hey, thanks for sharing my stuff. But at the very least, you need to be uh present of mind in your uh contacts before you can ask for anything. Make your company a publication of record. If your company doesn't already have a blog, a podcast, a YouTube channel, uh social media accounts, etc. Invest in those. No pitch is easier than one to your own site, right? As long as you're an industry authority, you can leverage that audience. When I ran uh blogs and podcasts and stuff for uh all the companies I work for in the last 15 years, becoming an industry authority means then you don't have to get approval, you don't have to wait for anybody, you can publish, and as long as the news is worthy, is quality, people will pay attention, and it's so much easier than pitching third-party publications. That is a whole strategy unto itself, but it is worth doing because in the end you have that relationship with the audience directly. You don't have to wait for an intermediary. Unless you are required to by law, such as uh the SEC regulation FD, do not bother with press releases. They are a waste of money because most people do them so badly, and you know they get like one click and it's usually you. When it comes to B2B specifically, top-tier publications matter very little. Wall Street Journal, New York Times, USA Today, it's not the place for you, and you won't get you the results are are disproportionately worse than the effort you put into them. Trade publications and individual influencers matter a lot. So individual people that you can reach out to uh about and they they have their own audience. They have a podcast, they have a YouTube channel, they have a LinkedIn group that they run, they have a Slack channel. Trade publication, you know, industrial concrete magazine. If you're in the industrial concrete space, guess what? That is the place for you to be. Focus on the niches in B2B PR. It works so much better. And build your own audience too. Build your own community. You know, build a Slack group, build a LinkedIn group, something like that where you have access to the audience directly. It's kind of part of building, you know, your your publication of rec record. But if you build your audience, then again, you don't have to wait for an intermediary to do it for you. You get the credibility of them doing it. You know, your name with in like Network World magazine. But in terms of performance that actually matters, that's it. And finally, measure what you do. Not measure how much you've done, but measure the outcomes of what you've done. Did you drive traffic? Did you get links for SEO? Did you get mentions on social media that drove traffic to the website? Did you see branded organic search increase? Measure the impact of your PR and what it did for the business. And if it's not having the impact you want, consider doing something else. So that was a lot. A lot to throw at you. But that is B2B public relations in a nutshell. Do those things and you will be more successful than less. If you have follow up questions, leave them in the comments box below. Subscribe to the YouTube channel and the newsletter. I'll talk to you soon. Take care. 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