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	<title>Comments on: Why pro conferences are different than PodCamps and why neither is better</title>
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		<title>By: David Meerman Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Meerman Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 15:52:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great analysis, Christopher. I agree with what you say. As a speaker at both sorts of events, I feel that participating in both are important.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great analysis, Christopher. I agree with what you say. As a speaker at both sorts of events, I feel that participating in both are important.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Goyetche</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Goyetche</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 13:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m glad you wrote this post. Some people have become almost militant on how conferences should be all &#039;un&#039;. It&#039;s not that simple or appropriate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;m glad you wrote this post. Some people have become almost militant on how conferences should be all &#39;un&#39;. It&#39;s not that simple or appropriate.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher S. Penn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher S. Penn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 12:22:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that depends more on the quality of the conference. If there&#039;s one area where there&#039;s some crossover, it&#039;s that each class of conference, unconference and pro, is forcing the other to innovate, and that&#039;s good for both.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that depends more on the quality of the conference. If there&#39;s one area where there&#39;s some crossover, it&#39;s that each class of conference, unconference and pro, is forcing the other to innovate, and that&#39;s good for both.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher S. Penn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher S. Penn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 12:20:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is similar, except that DMB albums generally don&#039;t cost $2,000 each!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is similar, except that DMB albums generally don&#39;t cost $2,000 each!</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Moonah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay Moonah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 12:19:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Imagine being a conference planner and trying to advertise that your pro conference has information that’s exclusively available at your conference… and then finding out that your keynote speaker can be found on Blip.tv or mDialog for free.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Interestingly, this is very similar to the argument that record companies have made for years about bootleg audio and video of shows being made availible.  I always note that allowing a zillion versions of their songs to be freely traded online has never hurt the touring revenues of acts like The Dead or Dave Matthews Band.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Great post Chris.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Imagine being a conference planner and trying to advertise that your pro conference has information that’s exclusively available at your conference… and then finding out that your keynote speaker can be found on Blip.tv or mDialog for free.&#8221;</p>
<p>Interestingly, this is very similar to the argument that record companies have made for years about bootleg audio and video of shows being made availible.  I always note that allowing a zillion versions of their songs to be freely traded online has never hurt the touring revenues of acts like The Dead or Dave Matthews Band.</p>
<p>Great post Chris.</p>
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		<title>By: joec0914</title>
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		<dc:creator>joec0914</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 12:07:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would pay for a pro conference to get to actually meet &quot;big name&quot; speakers, and interact with them. Seeing a presentation either in person or recorded is rarely, in my opinion, worth the money that conferences charge. But the chances of actually getting any real conversation time with a Big Name is very small at a conference with hundreds or thousands of attendees.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So, I think I have to disagree with your assertion. I&#039;d argue that the for-profit conference is the equivalent of Old Media. It&#039;s the We Talk, You Listen model. I think unconferences provide so much more value and learning potential. I base this on the experiences of a friend that attended her first PodCamp in Boston last month. She was just blown away by the fact that she could actually sit down and talk to people like CC Chapman, who have so much knowledge to dispense and that it only cost her $50. She made the point to me several times that she had gotten so much more out of PodCamp than any for-profit conference or seminar that she&#039;d been to and paid hundreds or thousands for.&lt;br&gt;It all comes down to value and the Long Tail model. I think the bottom-up, no-big-names, crowd-sourcing model is where much of the world is headed and conferences are no exception. Making money from the control of passive, read-only  information is an increasingly difficult model to make work. It&#039;s the conversation with a knowledgeable person that&#039;s worth money, not some dead information.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would pay for a pro conference to get to actually meet &#8220;big name&#8221; speakers, and interact with them. Seeing a presentation either in person or recorded is rarely, in my opinion, worth the money that conferences charge. But the chances of actually getting any real conversation time with a Big Name is very small at a conference with hundreds or thousands of attendees.</p>
<p>So, I think I have to disagree with your assertion. I&#39;d argue that the for-profit conference is the equivalent of Old Media. It&#39;s the We Talk, You Listen model. I think unconferences provide so much more value and learning potential. I base this on the experiences of a friend that attended her first <a href="http://www.podcamp.org" target='_blank'>PodCamp</a> in Boston last month. She was just blown away by the fact that she could actually sit down and talk to people like CC Chapman, who have so much knowledge to dispense and that it only cost her $50. She made the point to me several times that she had gotten so much more out of PodCamp than any for-profit conference or seminar that she&#39;d been to and paid hundreds or thousands for.<br />It all comes down to value and the Long Tail model. I think the bottom-up, no-big-names, crowd-sourcing model is where much of the world is headed and conferences are no exception. Making money from the control of passive, read-only  information is an increasingly difficult model to make work. It&#39;s the conversation with a knowledgeable person that&#39;s worth money, not some dead information.</p>
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