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	<title>Comments on: Scott Bourne says to avoid PPA &#8211; but he may be wrong</title>
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		<title>By: Karl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 01:04:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t forget that many affiliate programs allow for return visits by using cookies. This allows for the fact the transaction may not happen right away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t forget that many affiliate programs allow for return visits by using cookies. This allows for the fact the transaction may not happen right away.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Searles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Searles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2007 18:22:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting.

I tend to think there&#039;s some value to the exposure...  how many times do you have to be exposed to something before you recognize that it exists.. if you look at a brand as a &quot;complex of associations&quot; where all the points of exposure work to build that complex.. how would a payment scheme, that focused on a PPA metric, effect the way business is done?  It seems like.. if it leads you away from &quot;complex building&quot; does that infuse a certain amount of entropy into the system?

I say this as a neophyte who knows nothing about sales or marketing, compared with where you are at..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting.</p>
<p>I tend to think there&#8217;s some value to the exposure&#8230;  how many times do you have to be exposed to something before you recognize that it exists.. if you look at a brand as a &#8220;complex of associations&#8221; where all the points of exposure work to build that complex.. how would a payment scheme, that focused on a PPA metric, effect the way business is done?  It seems like.. if it leads you away from &#8220;complex building&#8221; does that infuse a certain amount of entropy into the system?</p>
<p>I say this as a neophyte who knows nothing about sales or <a href="http://www.marketingovercoffee.com" target='_blank'>marketing</a>, compared with where you are at..</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher S. Penn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher S. Penn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2007 17:23:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>/me plots what a GrammarGirl student loan product would look like :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>/me plots what a GrammarGirl student loan product would look like <img src='http://www.christopherspenn.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mignon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mignon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2007 17:20:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I think I would hold out for the private label brand, and I would be willing to take less for it because it is reinforcing my brand instead of theirs. Of course, I would need extremely high confidence in the quality of the product because it would be reflecting on my brand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I think I would hold out for the private label brand, and I would be willing to take less for it because it is reinforcing my brand instead of theirs. Of course, I would need extremely high confidence in the quality of the product because it would be reflecting on my brand.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher S. Penn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher S. Penn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2007 17:12:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That begs the question - would you hold out for a white-label/private label brand?

For example, if you signed up for StudentATM, would you accept a lower payment for a private label &quot;GrammarGirl Consolidation Loan&quot; than for the &quot;Student Loan Network Consolidation Loan&quot;, assuming that you wanted to offer that product?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That begs the question &#8211; would you hold out for a white-label/private label brand?</p>
<p>For example, if you signed up for StudentATM, would you accept a lower payment for a private label &#8220;GrammarGirl Consolidation Loan&#8221; than for the &#8220;Student Loan Network Consolidation Loan&#8221;, assuming that you wanted to offer that product?</p>
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		<title>By: Mignon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mignon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2007 17:07:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my mind, there is a big difference between an advertiser such as the Student Loan Network and a large global brand. SLN isn&#039;t likely to spend money on branding campaigns, but large global brands do spend money that way. 

I&#039;m concerned that PPA is just a way for large global brands to get discounted branding campaigns. I&#039;ve always thought the Amazon affiliate program was a brilliant way for Amazon to get a lot of free publicity. I&#039;m not complaining--I use their program--but they get an amazing amount of free exposure from the millions of websites that display that &quot;Buy from Amazon&quot; button and sell very few books. 

The brand seeps into my consciousness, and when I think about buying a book, I go to Amazon not the website (or 100 websites) where I saw their logo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my mind, there is a big difference between an advertiser such as the Student Loan Network and a large global brand. SLN isn&#8217;t likely to spend money on branding campaigns, but large global brands do spend money that way. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m concerned that PPA is just a way for large global brands to get discounted branding campaigns. I&#8217;ve always thought the Amazon affiliate program was a brilliant way for Amazon to get a lot of free publicity. I&#8217;m not complaining&#8211;I use their program&#8211;but they get an amazing amount of free exposure from the millions of websites that display that &#8220;Buy from Amazon&#8221; button and sell very few books. </p>
<p>The brand seeps into my consciousness, and when I think about buying a book, I go to Amazon not the website (or 100 websites) where I saw their logo.</p>
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